Kevin Oakley: New Home Marketing from Do You Convert
Market Proof Marketing: Home Builder Marketing Insights
A weekly new home marketing podcast for home builders and developers. Each week Kevin Oakley from Do You Convert will break down the headlines, share best-practices and stories from the front line, and perform a deep dive on a relevant marketing topic. We're here to help you - not sell you! No fluff - just honest perspectives on where to invest your time, money, and energy to get the highest volume of quality new home leads to your sales teams. Take action on these ideas, and you can market proof your marketing efforts for your home building company.
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Kevin Oakley: New Home Marketing from Do You Convert
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Feb 19, 2026
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Episodes
Ep 178: The Challenges Builders Face with Greg Bray 22.11.2021 49:10
Market Proof Marketing · Technology & Home Builders with Greg Bray Kevin Oakley is joined by Greg Bray, the Owner of Blue Tangerine, where they discuss a wide range of topics including the roadblocks that builders are facing with Buy Online, what is geofencing and how builders can utilize it in their marketing strategies, the growth of podcasts, and more! They also discuss:When to update...
Ep 177: Are All Marketers Liars? 17.11.2021 39:17
Market Proof Marketing · Are All Marketers Liars? Kevin Oakley, Julie Jarnagin, and Samantha Matlock consider if all marketers are liars? They discuss the illusion of influencers and how it relates to home builder marketers, Kevin has some exciting news on upcoming guests that you won't want to miss, and the team discusses OpenDoor and Zillow’s approach to iBuying. Story Time (2:11) Julie shares w...
Ep 176: Winter Cleaning For Marketing 11.11.2021 41:57
Market Proof Marketing · Winter Cleaning For Marketing Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, and Julie Jarnagin give ideas on what you should be focusing on during the usual winter slow-down period for home builder marketers, including rewriting or enhancing all of your website content, working on your marketing budgets, editing your Google Business Profile, and more. Story Time (3:42)Julie shares why b...
Ep 175: Increasing Buyer Engagement With Photos with Gordon Henderson 08.11.2021 25:33
Market Proof Marketing · Increasing Buyer Engagement With Photos with Gordon Henderson Kevin Oakley is joined by Gordon Henderson, President, CEO, and Co-Founder of 149 Photos by Builder Digital Solutions, Inc. A visual marketing solution company that takes weekly photos of homes under construction for both home building companies as well as for home buyers under contract. They discuss the benefit...
Ep 173: Curiosity Over Perfection with Jessi Kelly 01.11.2021 38:37
Market Proof Marketing · Curiosity Over Perfection with Jessi Kelly Kevin Oakley is joined by Jessi Kelly, the Vice President of Sales and Marketing at Stylecraft Builders, Inc. She shares the evolution of her career in the 8+ years she’s been with Stylecraft Builders Inc in Texas. She explains why perpetual curiosity is always better than chasing perfection in your role and...
Ep 172: Promoting Active Adult Communities 28.10.2021 45:33
Market Proof Marketing · Promoting Active Adult Communities Kevin Oakley, Bryce Baker, and Sarah Simmerman discuss their experiences marketing Active Adult Communities and how they built content and culture, even when the new home communities had minimal amenities. They also discuss Zillow’s pause on homebuying, Bitcoin as payment for homes, and Facebook’s name change. Story Time (02:10) Sarah sha...
Ep 171: The $3.18 Tomato 21.10.2021 37:39
Market Proof Marketing · The $3.18 Tomato Andrew Peek, Jackie Lipinski, and Becca Thomas discuss the idea of paying $3.18 for a tomato. Would you pay that much? How about that much for a lead? They discuss the value of a lead and why it's best to take a step back and analyze data with more context. They also share the story of a builder who just had their most successful virtual community launch o...
Ep 170: Perpetual Learning For Professional Development 14.10.2021 47:03
Market Proof Marketing · Perpetual Learning For Professional DevelopmentWow, we’ve got a full house for this episode! Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, Jen Barkan, and Mike Lyon join us to discuss a smorgasbord of topics, including professional development, the benefits of being on the front line, upcoming events, awards, the changing rules of texting as a business, how having mentors and mentees benefit...
Ep 169: Should You Be A Pioneer Or A Fast Follower? 07.10.2021 40:39
Market Proof Marketing · Ep 169: Should You Be A Pioneer Or A Fast Follower? Kevin Oakley, Julie Jarnagin, and Sarah Simmerman discuss the benefits of being a marketing pioneer or if it’s better to be a fast follower. Also, they review the internal considerations when rolling out a CRM system, why sooner is better than faster for content marketing, and why you better be working on your 2022 budge...
Ep 168: The Future Of Attribution 30.09.2021 1:05:02
Market Proof Marketing · The Future Of Attribution Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, and Julie Jarnagin discuss if attribution helps or hurts marketing when it comes to decision making, they review THAT real estate TikTok video that everyone's been sending around, and Mike Lyon announces the Online Sales Leadership Roundtable for the first time on the podcast! Story Time (01:52) Julie receives a crazy hi...
Ep 167: The Nationals with Lisa Parrish 27.09.2021 39:26
Market Proof Marketing · The Nationals with Lisa Parrish Hello new podcast format! Let us know your thoughts as we experiment with having our guest episodes as stand-alone episodes. Also be sure to check out Kevin's recent "Digging Deeper Into Buy Online with Denise Dersin from Professional Builder" interview and learn more about the upcoming Market Proof Marketing Academy happening on December 1-...
Ep 166: Is The Home Priced Too High Or Do You Need Better Marketing? 23.09.2021 50:35
Market Proof Marketing · Is The Home Priced Too High Or Do You Need Better Marketing? Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, and Jackie Lipinski discuss the marketing steps to take when the biggest feedback about why a new home won’t sell is that “the home is just priced too high”. Plus the team reviews why a proper website structure is imperative for marketing strategy and data tracking purposes, Kevin discu...
Ep 165: How To Do The Most With What We Have 16.09.2021 1:16:27
Market Proof Marketing · How To Do The Most With What We Have with Jeff Rutt and Matthew Baehr Kevin Oakley is joined by Jeff Rutt, CEO of Keystone Custom Homes and the founder of HOPE International, and Matthew Baehr, Executive Director of Homes For HOPE, to discuss how to do the most with what you have when it comes to getting involved with helping others. Plus Andrew Peek, Jackie Lipinski, and...
Ep 164: Online Sales Professionals vs. Amateurs 09.09.2021 53:28
Market Proof Marketing · Online Sales Professionals vs Amateurs Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, and Jen Barkan discuss why first impressions matter for all team members and the differences they see between online sales industry amateurs and professionals. Plus why Kevin will never build another pool ever again. Story Time (02:53) Jen shouldn’t have to ask you to wash your face, but here we are. Plus...
Ep 159: Rethinking Short-Form Videos 29.07.2021 55:15
Market Proof Marketing · Rethinking Short Form Videos Kevin Oakley and Andrew Peek welcome the newest DYC team member Samantha Matlock on to her first podcast! The team defines what short-form videos technically are and where they could and should be used. Additionally, they touch on the steps that people should take after creating content because no one should create something amazing and then go...
Ep 158: Influencer Marketing Conversations with Anya Chrisanthon 22.07.2021 1:30:23
Market Proof Marketing · Influencer Marketing Conversations with Anya Chrisanthon Kevin Oakley and Andrew Peek are joined by Anya Chrisanthon, owner of AC Marketing & Consulting, to discuss influencer marketing. Additionally, Andrew Peek, Jackie Lipinski, and Becca Thomas talk about the changing landscape of social media platforms and how their shift to preferring videos will influence home buildi...
Ep 157: Time To Hit The Advertising Reset Button 15.07.2021 44:27
Market Proof Marketing · Ep 157: Time To Hit The Advertising Reset Button Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, and Julie Jarnagin talk about the lies builders are telling themselves about the market conditions and why now might be a good time to undo what you did when market conditions were in your favor. Story Time (1:40) Julie recently went on vacation to Alaska and where the national parks and restaurant...
Ep 156: Running So Hot with Jen Barkan 08.07.2021 55:34
Market Proof Marketing · Ep 156: Running So Hot with Jen Barkan Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, and Jen Barkan bring you a very special episode! They recorded the podcast LIVE on Facebook to discuss the FAQs of the Market Proof Awards program, what website lead “quality” really means now, & more! Story Time Jen visited her son at work and witnessed him overcoming buyer objections and solving buyer’s p...
Ep 155: Is Frictionless Virtual Homebuying Attainable? 01.07.2021 51:46
Market Proof Marketing · Is Frictionless Virtual Homebuying Attainable? Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, and Jackie Lipinski discuss the difficulties of trying to buy a home online and whether it may ever be attainable after Kevin once again attempts to purchase a new home online. Also in this episode, they talk about a city that has decided to ban a home builder from renting any of their homes, google’...
Ep 154: Stretching Your Creative Content Muscles 24.06.2021 1:03:49
Market Proof Marketing · Stretching Your Creative Content Muscles Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, and Bryce Baker talk about ways to think about creating microcontent when visiting new homes under construction. Plus they talk about Zillow’s updated and more accurate Zestimates, why some potential buyers think lower lumber prices mean less expensive homes, and more! Story Time (1:30) Kevin Oakley, Andre...
Ep 153: Rebranding a Home Builder with Roka Music 17.06.2021 1:32:14
Market Proof Marketing · Rebranding a Home Builder with Roka Music Kevin Oakley is joined by Roka Music, the Chief Brand and Marketing Officer at StoryBuilt, to talk about the evolution and thought process behind rebranding her home builder. Andrew Peek, Jackie Lipinski, and Becca Thomas talk about how many leads are too many leads for a move-in-ready home, creating a budget that factors in innova...
Ep 152: Milestone Driven Community Launches 10.06.2021 1:02:22
Market Proof Marketing · Milestone Driven Community Launches Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, and Jen Barkan explain why new community launches must be flexible and planned off of construction milestones and not launched around preset calendar dates alone. They discuss if builders should enact their escalation clauses as well as they give some examples of what other builders are doing. St...
Ep 151.5: The New 2021 Online Sales Benchmarks for Q1 08.06.2021 36:48
Market Proof Marketing · 2021 Online Sales Benchmarks: New Year, New Metrics, Solid Results For this special episode of Market Proof Marketing, Kevin Oakley discusses the metrics behind the data that created the 2021 Online Sales Benchmarks infographic for Q1 of 2021 and why we made a conscious effort to only included data we could verify. Listen to the podcast version of Mike Lyon and Jen Barkan‘...
Ep 151: Content Calendar Conversations 03.06.2021 47:45
Market Proof Marketing · Content Calendar Conversations Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, and Jackie Lipinski discuss content calendars for homebuilders and why there isn’t a one-size-fits-all solution. Kevin also recounts his latest secret shop of a home builder who recently fired their entire online sales team and replaced them with chatbots, it was predictably terrible. Story Time (4:05) Jackie shares...
Ep 150: The Dangers of Shadow Interest Lists 27.05.2021 37:54
Market Proof Marketing · The Dangers of Shadow Interest Lists Kevin Oakley, Andrew Peek, and Julie Jarnagin talk about the dangerous practice of shadow interest lists being created by onsite sales team members, how they lead to poor customer experiences, and why you should nip them in the bud. They also discuss the need for marketers to take a step outside of the box this year and try taking risks...
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