Legal Talk Network
Lunch Hour Legal Marketing
Are you hungry for more clients? Tired of wasting time (and money) on marketing that doesn’t work? This podcast serves up real-world tips and proven digital marketing strategies that actually drive results for law firms. Hosted by Gyi Tsakalakis and Conrad Saam—two legal marketing pros who’ve been in the trenches. You’ll get practical advice on client acquisition, website teardowns, and what’s actually working for lawyers today—all with a touch of mirth. Congratulations, you found it—THE podcast for lawyers who want to grow their practice! So, if you’re ready to take your business to the next...
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Jul 8, 2026
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The Ethics of Fake Google Reviews || The 100 Local Business Review Challenge 26.04.2023 36:55
LHLM - ✭✭✭✭✭ - The best podcast ever made! (At least within the practice, ethics, and law of fake Google reviews). Plus, how you reviewing other local businesses is good Business Karma for you. ----- The guys bring on local search guru Joy Hawkins from Sterling Sky to share her hot take on the scourge of fake reviews on Google Business Profiles. Fakes aren’t hard to spot, but what can you do when...
5 Ways To Make Your Google Profile Pop || Is Your Chat Service Selling Your Leads? 12.04.2023 34:06
Make your Google Profile do more, and a look at how a chatbot plug-in may be selling your potential clients to other firms. ----- Having a strong online presence is essential when marketing your practice, and your Google Business profile is a critical component in any good marketing strategy. But, even if you have a “totally awesome” profile, don’t you kind of wish yours was doing better? SAY NO M...
Legal Marketing MADNESS: The Sweet 16 of Marketing Tactics 22.03.2023 34:14
Conrad and Gyi hit the hardwood as the top marketing channels square up for the Big Dance. It’s March Madness… Marketing Madness that is! Gyi and Conrad fill out their tournament brackets, not with their favorite teams, but rather the top marketing channels and tools. Then it’s a battle to the end as the guys pit these tactics head-to-head to see which will come out on top. From the Sweet 16 to th...
Dispatches from ABA TechShow: Authentic Branding || Why Invest in Marketing? 08.03.2023 40:22
The day has finally come: Conrad and Gyi are live from ABA Techshow! F.O.P’s Allison Johs and Rukayatu “Ruky” Tijani share the importance of investing in marketing and authentic branding and purpose. (1:46) You may be surprised at how few small firms and solo practices have a true budget, never mind a specific marketing budget. So how do these firms know how much money they have and how to use res...
ABA Techshow 2023 Preview || Google Ads: Too Expensive? 22.02.2023 34:16
A rundown of what Conrad and Gyi will be talking about at the March ABA Techshow. Plus, Google Ads are so dang expensive, amiright? ----- Oh, boy! ABA Techshow is really, really soon, and the guys can’t contain their excitement. On the pod, Gyi and Conrad give you a preview of their sessions and what you can expect; including branding and positioning, a data-driven section on the future of legal m...
Maximizing Your Marketing Mix || SEO-Optimization is Killing Your Content 08.02.2023 45:25
Are Gyi and Conrad even real anymore? The “guys” discuss the most effective and efficient use of your marketing dollar. Then, it’s into the listener mailbag to commiserate over the ubiquity of unbearable (but SEO-optimized!) legal content. We’re not sure who carries eggs in baskets anymore, but we’re all familiar with the classic idiom. And, it applies to your marketing mix as well. Gyi and Conrad...
ChatGPT for SEO: Trap or Treasure? || CallRail’s 2023 Marketing Outlook Report 25.01.2023 36:26
Yes, it’s more of that pre-sentient AI everybody loves, ChatGPT! But first, we take a look at CallRail’s 2023 Marketing Outlook for Law Firms. ----- As a devotee of Lunch Hour Legal Marketing, CallRail’s 2023 Marketing Outlook for Law Firms offers you the chance to see how well you’ve been following along. But, regardless of whether the report surprises you, the takeaways are crucial. Gyi and Conr...
Conrad’s Crystal Ball: The Re-Return || Marketing Resolutions for 2023 11.01.2023 31:55
The New Year! A look back, a look ahead. Plus, resolutions you can start today that can make you even more prosperous in 2023. ----- It’s that time of year again; Conrad and Gyi put away the snow-globes and bring back the crystal ball—what can we say, orbs really tie the room together—and make their predictions for 2023. But, what good are prognostications without accountability? First, the gents...
The 12 Days of Legal Marketing: The Musical! 28.12.2022 41:15
In a holiday special, Conrad and Gyi share a festive song – about legal marketing. A great recap of 2022’s biggest lessons. ----- The holidays: a time when everybody (hopefully) takes a little time off for themselves and their families; a time to turn off the email, to sit and relax and suffer the endless stream of Christmas music. Speaking of which… Lunch Hour Legal Marketing™️ proudly presents: ...
ChatGPT and Deep Fake Marketing || Congratulations, Your Law Firm is Now a Media Company 14.12.2022 44:39
Welcome, A.I. overlords! ChatGTP, the rise of artificial intelligence content creation, and why your law firm needs to make more cat videos. The guys have a new best friend: ChatGPT. Well, maybe not best friend, but it’s pretty damn cool and maybe, fills us with just a wee bit of existential dread. Recent, high profile advances in AI-driven content generation have painted us (literally?) a vision...
Working From Home Or Living At Work? || Why No One Likes Your Law Firm 23.11.2022 37:29
How setting boundaries when working from home can make you happier, plus knowing the difference between building brand recognition and building brand affinity. ----- Like it or not, the pandemic opened Pandora's box of WFH, but does it feel like you’re working from home or living at work? The lines have certainly blurred. However, that doesn’t mean you have to be on call 24/7 waiting by the phone...
Data that Makes Dashboards Dazzle || Lawyers, Your Clients Want Flat Fees 09.11.2022 41:36
Gyi and Conrad talk about gorgeous data dashboards and the gorgeous-er data behind them. Then, the guys dig into how your clients really feel about fees and billing. Plus, book club! ----- Straight from the YouTubes: Gyi and Conrad answer a listener question regarding metrics dashboards. Plot twist, it’s less about the tools you use to display your data, and more about the integrity of the data yo...
Clio Enters the World of Websites (and SEO) || Are Lawyers Like Spam and Ramen? 26.10.2022 36:00
Conrad and Gyi take an early look at Clio’s foray into website design and the connection between lawyers and ramen noodles. Plus, some quick takeaways from the brand new 2022 Clio Legal Trends Report. ----- Continuing its effort to be your law firm’s one-stop shop, Clio is now entering the website design and hosting arena. Is Clio’s new offering, which specializes in sites for lawyers and seamless...
What’s the Plan, Stan? || Marketing Metrics Power Rankings 12.10.2022 44:30
First things first: it’s about time you got your annual plan together for next year. Then, Gyi and Conrad help you build your metrics dashboard into a pro-level thing of beauty. And, book review—what you need to add to your Business Bookshelf. ----- It’s that time of year again, time to grab your pumpkin spice lattes and start your firm’s marketing planning for the upcoming year. You do have a pla...
Sales Velocity: Be Quick or Be Dead || Metrics, Who Needs ‘em? 28.09.2022 43:37
How fast are you moving potential clients from contact to contract? And businesses, which law practices most definitely are, need metrics, but the guys help you avoid the metrics that are really just noise. And, for a little something extra, we get into what’s been going on with Patagonia and a rant a little bit about the upcoming legal conference season. ----- Do you even like making money? Gyi a...
What’s That Shiny New Marketing Toy You’ve Got There? || Google’s Out Of Home Ads 14.09.2022 42:57
First Gyi and Conrad dig through the giant heap of legal marketing news that somebody left here since the last episode. Then, the guys help you avoid over-investing in every “cool new thing” right before they encourage you to invest in Google’s “cool new thing”. ----- Second Life! Pokemon Go! Clubhouse! (gasp) Whatever other nonsense you think might work to market your firm. Yes, there’s always co...
You’re F#¢%ing Up LinkedIn || How To Do LinkedIn Right 24.08.2022 37:31
You need to be on LinkedIn. Yes, it can be kind of painful, but it’s still the de facto social media platform of the business world. So if you HAVE to be on it, don’t f#¢% it up. Tune is as the guys share the best ways to make LinkedIn work for you. ----- Odds are, your LinkedIn profile is not working for you the way you’d like it to. Gyi and Conrad spell out the worst mistakes lawyers make on Lin...
Hubspot: Top Marketing Trends You Need to Know in 2022 || Wait, Google Wants What Now? 10.08.2022 39:52
Weed, cookies, Google, TikTok; this episode has it all! Gyi and Conrad sort through the latest and greatest in the world of law firm marketing, and help you stay ahead of the curve. Hope you’re hungry. ----- The new Hubspot Marketing Trends Report, The State of Inbound Marketing Trends is out. And you know what? Short videos, TikTok, and “reels” are hot. Social Media might be the new king, but is...
Is Link Building Worth It Anymore? || Top 10 Link Building Tips 27.07.2022 45:21
Meh, links. A recent article claims that the hard work of building backlinks to drive traffic to your law firm’s website isn’t worth it. Is that right? Spoiler alert: No; no it is not. The guys break down the fundamentals of link building and share their top ten tips to improve your search ranking. ----- Conrad and Gyi debate whether the Siege Media article is relevant to the legal industry, in th...
Viral Customer Service || What Does Dobbs Have To Do With Law Firm Marketing? 13.07.2022 36:44
Chewy’s eating your marketing lunch straight outta the bowl, and Supreme Court rulings may seem removed from legal marketing, but this could be the moment to serve your community with empathy and a bit of humanity. ----- You want to see great customer service? Take a look in your pet’s food bowl. Gyi and Conrad discuss the recent virality of Chewy’s exceptional customer service and highlight, comp...
Your Law Firm’s Intake Needs You || Legal Marketing LARPing: Level Up Your SEO 22.06.2022 43:59
There’s no way around it, prospective clients want to talk to a lawyer, so get into your intake! Then the guys go LARPing—a little role play to quickly up your SEO game. Also, the return or Dear State Bar Regulator. As a lawyer, how involved should you be in the intake process? You’ve got people to handle that, right? After all, you’ve got better things to do. Gyi and Conrad discuss intake best pr...
SEO: It’ll Be a Minute, or Will It? || How to Get 28,529 Five-Star Reviews 08.06.2022 39:06
Why you shouldn’t just play the SEO long-game. Plus, a law firm’s surprising (and sketchy) use of Google review numbers. ----- Most marketing agencies tell you that SEO is going to take time. Well yeah, maybe, but it doesn’t ALWAYS have to. Gyi and Conrad reevaluate traditional “tempered” expectations and discuss how long SEO should take and whether marketers are just using SEO to lock you into lo...
How Not To Use TikTok For Your Law Firm || 5 Tips to Increase Referrals 25.05.2022 41:59
Conrad and Gyi tackle an (ahem) unusual marketing move by an attorney using TikTok video streaming. Plus, five big referral tips. ----- Wouldn’t it be great if your clients left you a good review online? Why wait? Why not just videotape them as you’re coming out of the courtroom? It’s “Marketing vs the Client’s Best Interest” in the bizarre case of a lawyer using the video streaming platform TikTo...
Supercharge Conversions with Text || Google Performance Max 11.05.2022 38:43
You want to boost your conversions but only have so much bandwidth doing it all yourself. Stop thinking that tech equals cold and impersonal. Simple technologies like auto-response emails and text messages (done right!) can afford a personal touch for your clients, bring more prospects into your funnel, and convert those opportunities you’re currently missing out on. And has Google ended the era o...
What Is Dark Social and Why It Matters 27.04.2022 34:04
Dark Social — it just sounds nefarious, right? But there’s no need to break out a Tor browser and dive into the depths of the dark web; this stuff is legit. And once you understand and leverage it, it can be the difference between your marketing just “working” and blowing up. Gyi and Conrad explain what Dark Social is, why it can be difficult—nay, impossible—to track through your traditional attri...
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