Two Squared Media Productions
Love Doesn't Pay The Bills: Highlighting the Value of Family Caregiving
In Love Doesn't Pay the Bills, we explore the role of family caregivers in the modern United States through personal stories and interviews with leaders. Care work is vital to all other aspects of life, yet often under-resourced. Caregivers cannot house and feed ourselves or provide for our own medical needs based on our love for our family members alone: access to income matters. We also have the same needs as other workers for regular time off, to participate in social life and recreation, and for ongoing education and new opportunities over time. email Lisa: lisatschudi@twosquaredmediaprodu...
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Jul 9, 2026
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When ordinary childhood experiences require extraordinary care: With Guest Lenore Eklund 09.07.2026 27:03
Lenore Eklund is the Illustrator of "Where is the manual for this!?" and mom to a medically complex child. We talk about the planning and work that goes into kids with disabilities having ordinary(and extraordinarily beautiful) childhood experiences. We talk about what happens when communities around the family take some of that planning off the primary caregiver's shoulders and when they don't. A...
Link Arms to Improve Medicaid Home and Community Based Services 18.06.2026 41:09
Direct Service Providers (DSPs) both paid family members, and nonfamily are critical to the wellbeing, autonomy and safety of people with disabilities. DSPs provide support with bathing, dressing, eating, transportation and more. Medicaid's home and community based services(HCBS) is specifically designed to ensure that people with high disability related care needs remain in their communities whil...
The Vital Importance of Paid Family Leave: With Guest Elizabeth Milligan Cordova 11.06.2026 31:45
Elizabeth Milligan Cordova is an educator, early childhood advocate, and parent. She currently works for TEACH Colorado, helping to expand and strengthen early childhood education pathways. Across all of her roles, she remains deeply committed to advancing equity in education at every level. A parent to two young children, ages four and one, Elizabeth spends much of her time playing Go Fish, watch...
Replay of What If We Really Believed That Care Is A Part of Everyone's Life?: With Guest Emily Kenway 04.06.2026 35:13
This episode was originally published on June 20, 2023 We're joined by Emily Kenway, the author of " Who Cares : The Hidden Crisis of Caregiving, and How We Solve It". "Who cares" is a very loving memoir of Emily's own caregiving experience. It also is a great work of advocacy by imagining the changes that would happen throughout our world if we started from the default assumption that all people...
Care Stories and Themes: With Guest Kat McGowan 28.05.2026 32:08
Kat McGowan is a journalist whose life was changed by family caregiving. She was a 2024-25 Rosalynn Carter Mental Health Journalism Fellow, and developed a series for NPR about caregiving and mental health. We discuss common themes Kat noticed in her interviews as well as advice to someone ready to tell their own care story in a meaningful way. Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.sp...
The workforce holding our healthcare system together: With Christine Villabona-Kuntz 21.05.2026 32:49
Christine Villabona-Kuntz joins us to discuss her article in USA Today " I'm one of 48 million unpaid caregivers. Health care collapses without us ". Christine is a nurse, and her perspecitve on care changed when she also became the family caregiver to her own mother. We discuss the crisis facing family caregivers and people in need of care. There are 43 million family caregivers in the United St...
The Value of Family Caregiving Across America: With Guest Rita Choula 14.05.2026 31:55
Rita B. Choula , MA is the senior director of caregiving at the AARP Public Policy Institute. In her role, she drives the development of family caregiving initiatives by providing content expertise, both within AARP and in partnership with a range of external collaborators. Her work bridges policy and research to practice, centered on identifying and supporting needs of family caregivers. Rita sha...
Considering Our Time: With Guest Nancy Folbre 07.05.2026 30:01
"Conventional measures of economic success don’t capture the experience of everyday life in the U.S. The stock market is booming, and Gross Domestic Product is trudging upward. But inflation remains endemic, and the cost of care services is going up even faster than the “cost of living” measured by the standard Consumer Price Index." -Nancy Folbre What economic picture do we get when we ask questi...
Love Is Not the Same as Unlimited Skilled Labor: With Guest Laura Mauldin 30.04.2026 34:18
Welcome back to the relaunch of Love Doesn't Pay the Bills: Highlighting the Value of Care Work! Guest Laura Mauldin is the author of " In Sickness and In Health ", about America's failure to properly support citizens who are chronically ill or disabled, instead relying on the unpaid labor of spouses. Laura interviews care recipient and caregiver dyads who are romantic partners. Laura shares some...
There are Roles for Both Informal and Formal Supports in Caregiving: With Guest Donna Thomson 24.04.2025 28:38
Informal or natural supports are care that is provided as part of a relationship, unpaid and outside of particular organizations or structures. It's what we build relationships from and a deep part of being human. Formal supports are the paid caregivers who do specific tasks at specific times as part of a paid job within some kind of organization. For example: A parent providing care for their o...
Start Small: With Guest Suzanne Ricklin 17.04.2025 21:40
Financial impact can be one of the most difficult aspects of being a family caregiver. Suzanne Ricklin joins us to discuss the particular impact of caregiving on Women investors, and encourages each of us to start small because saving even a little bit can make an impact on our future financial situation. She talks about hiring a financial advisor and why women have particular advising needs. ...
Everybody Cares: With Guest Jay Chaudry 03.04.2025 28:04
Jay Chaudry and Lisa get philosophical about care. We acknowledge the multi-faceted nature of care as a main feature of the human experience. Beyond narratives that place care firmly on one side or the other of various binary descriptions, care is woven in many ways throughout our lives. What does this have to do with public policy? How might we change our advocacy if we view care as an impor...
What Would It Mean to Have Work Requirements Attached to Medicaid: With Guest Mary-Beth Malcarney 27.03.2025 26:26
We've talked a lot recently about possible cuts to Medicaid. One possible way de facto cuts could be implemented is work requirements. Mary-Beth Malcarney joins us to talk all about how such requirements would impact people who currently use Medicaid, family caregivers, and in fact, everyone in the US, including those using private insurance. Caregivers will understand that sometimes, while we...
What Caregivers Can Do to Preserve and Protect Services for People With Disabilities: With Guest Casey Doherty 20.03.2025 30:43
There are threats to Medicaid among many other services, and today we talk about how to help preserve access to public services for disability related support needs that help both caregivers and people with disabilities. There are various approaches each individual can take to make an impact on public services. If we each do what we can, where we are with the resources we have, people with disa...
The 600 Billion Dollar Value of Unpaid Care Work: With Guest Susan Reinhard 13.03.2025 35:30
What is the care provided by family caregivers financially worth? We discuss the value of unpaid care in America, how this value is beginning to be recognized or properly supported and what listeners can do to help make sure it is. "Susan C. Reinhard is the chief strategist emeritus for the Center to Champion Nursing in America, a national resource center created to ensure that America has the...
We Need to Keep Medicaid Strong for care recipients and families: With Guest Nicole Jorwic 06.03.2025 25:14
With recent threats to Medicaid funding, we discuss why Medicaid is important to care in the United States, what it is and what cutting funds might mean. “More than 72 million people have health insurance through Medicaid – that’s more than one in five Americans. It covers children, senior citizens, people with disabilities, parents and adults without dependents. In addition, more than 7.2 millio...
We Built a Fabulous Care Team Around Us: With guest Mike George 20.02.2025 38:29
Mike George helps families rewrite their caregiving story – from one of sacrifice and exhaustion to one of joy, strength and resilience. A family caregiver himself for 3 decades, Mike intimately understands the burdens of supporting the primary care of a loved one. But he also knows the tremendous fulfillment it can bring. This lived experience led him to create The Soaring Families WayTM, a prove...
Microdoses of Self Care for Family Caregivers: With Guest Dr. Merle Griff 13.02.2025 29:41
Dr. Merle Griff is the author of the author of "Solace in the Storm: Caring for Loved Ones of Every Generation" as well as the owner of SarahCare Senior Solutions . She has lived experience caring for two family members: her mother and her husband. Lisa talks with Dr. Griff about ways to maintain healthy communication in relationships as family caregivers, particularly listening to the care recip...
A Systemic Failure to Invest in the Care Workforce: With Guest Joe Macbeth 06.02.2025 37:47
The Chief Executive Officer and President of the National Alliance for Direct Support Professionals (NADSP), Joe Macbeth joins us to talk about the labor pool for these employees. Joe's experience in the field of intellectual and developmental disabilities(IDD) goes back 42 years - beginning as a direct support professional(DSP). Macbeth is recognized as an international leader when it comes to ad...
This Real Person Needs Real Supports: With Guest Calli Ross 30.01.2025 32:01
Calli Ross returns to the show to discuss a bill currently making it's way through the Oregon state legislature. Named for her son, Tensy's law will make good on the legislative intent behind OR SB91 passed in 2023. SB91 created a waiver for children with very high disability related support needs to pay their parents as direct support professional (DSP) providers under Medicaid Home and Communi...
Grab a Little Kindness for Ourselves: With Guest Susanne White 16.01.2025 29:55
Susanne cared for her mother and her father simultaneously. Out of that experience grew Susanne's service to other family caregivers: Caregiverwarrior.com and the book Self Care for Caregivers. She shares wisdom from her intense caregiving. She writes that self care is "N ot All Bubble Baths and Yoga Pants" and at LDPTB we agree! Nontheless, treating oneself with kindness matters in the most h...
Looking at Care From Both Sides Now: With Guest Becky Curran Kekula 09.01.2025 36:18
Our guest today is Becky Curran Kekula. Becky is a disability inclusion advocade. She is a speaker and movie industry equity and inclusion expert. Her experiences of both achrondoplasia, which is a form of drawfism, and medical motherhood give Becky a unique persepective on care. http://www.beckymotivates.com/About-Us.html Become a supporter of this podcast: https://www.spreaker.com/podcast/l...
Replay of Fully Fund Care: with guest Calli Ross 26.12.2024 42:44
This episode was originally published on March 7, 2023. The Guest this week is Calli Ross who is a family caregiver and leader in the movement in Oregon to allow parents to be paid for providing extraordinary care to their minor children with disabilities. In the 2025 legislative session, Tensy's law, named for her son will be introduced to eliminate the lottery system that was created with SB9...
These Are All Normal Feelings: With Guest Lynn Abaté-Johnson 19.12.2024 35:23
Lynn Abaté-Johnson joins Lisa to discuss the breadth and complexity of our human feelings as caregivers, particularly at the holidays. We reflect on the paradox that embracing difficult emotions can bring more ability to adjust to them, live with them, and notice the more pleasant ones which can exist right alongside them. After being a primary caregiver for her mom for over six years, Internati...
Connections, the Holidays and Cyclical Grief: With Guest Jessica Patay 12.12.2024 22:56
Jessica Patay is the founder and executive director of We Are Brave Together which brings together and uplifts over three thousand parents of children with disabilities. When her son was diagnosed with Prader-Willi syndrome, she met a warm community of famlies whose child also experienced the condition. We Are Brave Together creates a similar experience for many more moms whose children experien...
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