Liberator

What happens when we stop viewing Jesus only as Savior—and begin living like He is truly our King? In this episode, Layton and Chelsea explore how the kingship of Christ changes the way we approach pornography, sexual integrity, and obedience. While God's mercy and grace are foundational to the Christian life, they are never meant to diminish His holiness, justice, or authority.

Is it unrealistic to expect your significant other to be free from pornography? What if they have a past with it? What if they're currently struggling? Layton and Chelsea discuss one of the most nuanced questions they've received. Drawing from their own story, biblical principles, and years of walking alongside others, they explore the difference between a past struggle and ongoing unrepentant beh...

Chelsea and Layton explore a powerful biblical pattern found throughout 1 and 2 Kings: the "high places." While many of Judah's righteous kings removed idols, false prophets, and pagan temples, most failed to tear down the high places—small, hidden locations of compromise that remained scattered throughout the land. What can these ancient high places teach us about pornography recovery, sexual tem...

Why is our first inclination as women to tear each other down? Chelsea and Layton explore how insecurity, comparison, and pornography intersect in the lives of many women. Chelsea shares how betrayal trauma intensified existing insecurities and led her to view other women as a threat rather than fellow image-bearers of God. Together, they unpack the cultural pressures surrounding beauty, sexuality...

When you're hiking a difficult trail, there's one question almost everyone asks: "How much further?" In this episode of Liberator, Chelsea shares the story of tackling one of the most challenging hikes she's ever completed in Yosemite National Park. Along the way, she noticed a familiar question being passed between hikers—and realized how closely it mirrors the journey toward freedom from pornogr...

Can using accountability software actually become unhealthy? In this episode of Liberator , Chelsea and Layton have an honest conversation about monitoring apps — the good, the necessary, and the potential hazards of using them without discernment. Chelsea shares how, in the early stages of betrayal trauma recovery, checking monitoring reports became an obsession fueled by fear, anger, and a despe...

We're revisiting one of our favorite episodes this week on Liberator.  Our friend Scott Kedersha joins us to discuss the challenges and impact of pornography in relationships. Scott is the National Director of Merge and Foundation Groups at Watermark Community Church. He shares his personal journey and how he became passionate about helping couples build strong marriages. Scott provides insights o...

Gordon Brooks Jr. joins the show! Gordon is the author of the recently released book,  Sexpectations . This episode delves into the complexities of navigating expectations, fostering vulnerability, and building spiritual connections. Gordon shares insights from his book into how unpacking hidden emotional baggage and engaging in honest communication can lead to transformative growth in relationshi...

Chelsea and Layton are joined by Caitlin McCaffrey, the Director of Women's Ministry at Harvest USA. They explore the mission of Harvest USA, God's heart towards those struggling with betrayal and sexual sin, and the significant need for support among women facing these challenges. Caitlin shares insights on betrayal trauma, the importance of acknowledging pain, and the role of church leaders in p...

What does godly loyalty look like in action? And how does it compare to the loyalty of this world? Chelsea and Layton explore the biblical stories of Joab and Nathan to draw lessons on integrity, accountability, and the importance of choosing the right people around us, especially in the context of overcoming pornography addiction.

If forgiveness is given after betrayal, why does trust still feel so elusive? Chelsea and Layton explore the nuances between trust and forgiveness in relationships, with a specific emphasis on understanding how they are linked and where they differ. The episode includes personal stories, metaphors, and practical steps to foster healing and integrity.

Jeremy Bilderback returns on Liberator! Together with Layton and Chelsea, he'll help unpack the additional weight of sexual sin described in 1 Corinthians 6:18. This episode explores the spiritual and biological aspects of sexual sin, emphasizing the importance of worship, dependence on God, and practical strategies for overcoming addiction.

Chelsea and Layton explore the story of Potiphar's wife from Genesis 39, analyzing themes of temptation, lust, and integrity. Join us as we peel back the layers on an often overlooked character from Joseph's narrative. Together we'll discuss how to recognize and resist destructive desires, emphasizing the importance of spiritual discipline and self-control.

How much does unforgiveness affect our healing? Chelsea and Layton talk through one of the most important truths they learned during their relationship's early days of healing. Chelsea draws on her own experience and the book of Ruth to find practical lessons for processing bitterness. Join us as we discuss freeing ourselves from the pit of resentment. 

Have you ever considered that porn is contributing to a self-absorbed view of the people around you? Chelsea and Layton explore the hidden roots of possessiveness, its connection to pride, and how it impacts relationships and spiritual growth. They discuss personal stories, biblical insights, and practical steps to surrender control and find freedom in God's sovereignty.

We are rewinding it back with our friend and licensed therapist, Jason VanRuler on the show. Jason began his career in 2011 and has worked with many populations over the years, ranging from persons who are incarcerated to top CEOs, performers and artists, and just about everyone in between. Jason has extensive experience as a clinician, coach, and speaker and operates a multistate private practice...

Chelsea and Layton discuss the subtle dangers of fantasy and erotica and how they can shape unrealistic expectations around romance, pursuit, and intimacy. Chelsea shares a personal story that revealed how easily media can stir comparison and discontent within relationships. Together, they invite listeners to examine what they're consuming and ensure it's strengthening—not distorting—God's design...

Layton and Chelsea sit down with longtime church-planter and disciple-maker Wade McHargue to hear his incredible story of struggle, calling, and freedom. Wade shares the deeply personal battle he faced after being exposed to pornography as a child and the shame and bondage that followed him for years. Everything changed when Wade began desperately seeking God and sensed the Lord leading him to mem...

Could the effects of pornography be preventing you from hearing God's call on your life? Chelsea and Layton explore the concept of holy ambition, particularly in the context of weeding out the entanglements created by porn. The episode walks through what it looks like to move beyond traditional human goals and embrace God's specific and divine purpose for each of us.  

Chelsea and Layton talk about what real freedom looks like — especially in the early days of breaking free from pornography, shame, and hidden struggles. They unpack how liberation doesn't always feel good at first — but gets exponentially better over time. Drawing from stories in the Book of Exodus , Gospel of Luke , and Gospel of John , they highlight a powerful truth: even after deliverance, gr...

Chelsea and Layton delve into the profound effects of betrayal on the brain and body. They explore the symptoms of betrayal trauma, the importance of understanding these responses, and the journey towards healing. The conversation emphasizes the need for compassion, support, and effective strategies for recovery, highlighting the role of counseling and the brain's capacity for healing.

John Rue joins Liberator for today's conversation! John is a coach, mentor, and trainer at Built-to-Lead. In this episode he brings his passion for helping teams and individuals reach their full effectiveness and God-given potential. John shares his insights into one of our favorite topics: discipleship. Together we'll explore what discipleship looks like in practice, and why it's of vital importa...

Chelsea and Layton explore the biblical story of Lot's wife from Genesis 19, discussing themes of nostalgia, longing for the past, and the challenges of moving forward after experiencing betrayal and addiction. They reflect on personal experiences and the importance of understanding God's heart in the midst of struggles, emphasizing the need for gratitude and mindfulness as one navigates the wilde...

Chelsea and Layton examine the link between pornography and sexual illiteracy. They explore how adolescents absorb sexual scripts from pornographic content, leading to misconceptions about real-life sexual experiences. The conversation emphasizes the importance of reclaiming sexuality within the church and equipping parents to have open, honest discussions with their children about sex. Birds-Bees...

Chelsea and Layton share how relapse affected their individual healing and the path of their relationship. They unpack both of their perspectives from the event as well as the challenges that resulted. The episode includes advice and messages of hope.