Leaving Eden LLC

Leaving Eden Podcast

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An Ex-Fundie, Deconstruction, and Cult podcast as told by cult survivor Sadie Carpenter, with her co-host Gavi HaCohen. This podcast covers Sadie's cult, (The Independent Fundamental Baptist church), other cults, (including Jonestown and the Branch Davidians), cult-related media (including reality TV shows and documentaries like The Duggars/19 Kids and Counting, Shiny Happy People, Welcome to Plathville, and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City), famous fundamentalist and fundie influencers, other religions, and the real and present threat that cults and cult ideologies pose to society as a whole...

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Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Ep. 103: Leaving Springfield (Christianity On The Simpsons) (Exfundie / TV / Religion / Cartoons / Comedy / Censorship / Exvangelical / Animation / Homer / Marge / Bart / Lisa / Maggie) 10.10.2022

We thought we'd take a break from the heavier topics we've been covering to talk about the portrayal of religion and Christianity on our favorite cartoon, The Simpsons!  WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.threadless.com Stream the Leaving Eden Podcast theme song, Rolling River of Time on Spotify! https://open.spotify.com/artist/6lB7RwSQ9X5gnt1BDNu...

Ep. 102: Why Do People Become Fundie? (Deconstruction / Mental Health / High Pressure Tactics / Love Bombing / Trauma / Adverse Life Experiences / Cult Stories / Fundamentalism / Jesus) 03.10.2022

In this episode, Sadie takes us through the four main ways in which people get sucked into fundamentalism In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including guilt, shame, and fear. In most episode...

Ep. 101: Fundie Influencers (Paul and Morgan Oliges / Kelly Havens Stickle) (Fundie Snark / Pregnancy / Instagram / YouTube / Flickr / Tumblr / Mental Health / Homestead / Cosplay / Culture War) 01.10.2022

On today's episode, Sadie and Gavi look at two Christian fundie influencer channels. Specifically, those belonging to Paul and Morgan Oliges, and Kelly Havens Stickle. While these two channels seem like complete opposites on the surface, Sadie is able to find a few interesting similarities.  This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Visit BetterHelp.com/Eden for 10% off your first month of onl...

Ep. 100: EPISODE 100/2 YEAR ANNIVERSARY CELEBRATION! (How To Listener Questions and Other Fun Stuff) (LGBTQ / Personal Finance / Exfundie / Introvert / Extrovert / Future / Past / Dave Ramsey) 19.09.2022

Sadie and Gavri'el celebrate two years of podcasting and 100 episodes by answering YOUR listener questions! They cover topics ranging from coming out as an LGBTQ person, trying to maintain friendships with people still in fundamentalism, and personal finance! They reminisce on their favorite episodes so far, as well as the episodes that they have coming up! At the end, Sadie and Gavri'el share a s...

Ep. 99: Cult Leader Jack Schaap Is Out Of Prison (and hasn't registered as a sex offender) (Fundamentalism / FBCH / Jesus / Christianity / Religion / Church Abuse / Scandal / Legal Update) 12.09.2022

Jack Schaap has been out of prison all summer. Within days of his release, he is required by law to register as a sex offender. He has not done this. Sadie and Gavi are looking into just how he manages to get away with this.  Content Warning: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny,...

Ep. 98: Bob Jones University (BJU) (Cult College / Fundamentalism / Abuse Scandal / Victim Blaming / Racism / KKK / Strom Thurmond / Ku Klux Klan / Ex-fundie / Exvangelical / Christian Education) 05.09.2022

At BJU they'll have you on your knees until you're filled with the holy spirit, and when Jesus comes, you'll be prepared. This week, Sadie takes Gavi through the controversial history of this legendary fundamentalist university, and through the history of fundamentalism in the 20th century.  TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not li...

Ep. 97: How To Enjoy Live Music And Dancing (Sinning / Fun / Purity Culture / Theology / Exfundie / Exvangelical / IFB / Exifb / Fundamentalism / Cult Stories) 29.08.2022

In this episode, Sadie discusses how she learned to be comfortable moving in her own body without being afraid of attracting attention. Then, Sadie and Gavri'el encourage listeners to get involved in their local music scene!  PLEASE SEND US YOUR HOW TO QUESTIONS FOR OUR HOW TO SERIES AT LeavingEdenPod@Gmail.com WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.t...

Ep. 96: Sadie Goes to Jesus Camp (Cry Night) (Fun / Pain / Trauma / Deconstruction / Salvation Doubt / IFB / Fundamentalism / Ex-Fundie / Exvangelical / Summer / Childhood Memories / Cult Stories) 22.08.2022

Have you ever seen the move Jesus Camp? Well the summer camp Sadie went to made Jesus Camp look like a vacation to Jamaica with Micah and Moriah. Sadie asks the question, do the IFB know how to have fun without traumatizing children? And we legitimately do not know the answer.  PLEASE SEND US YOUR HOW TO QUESTIONS FOR OUR HOW TO SERIES AT LeavingEdenPod@Gmail.com WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE,...

Ep. 95: How To: Alcohol (Drinking / Fundie Snark / IFB / Ex Fundie / Exvangelical / Theology / Sinning / Fun / Beer / Gin / Wine / Vodka / Tequila / Whiskey / Martini / Sex On The Beach) 15.08.2022

Did you come out of fundamentalism terrified of alcohol? Did you start drinking and make horrible mistakes? Do you wish you had somebody to point you in the right direction? Well Sadie and Gavi are here with this primer teaching you how to consume alcohol safely and responsibly, and instructing you how to avoid having a bad time.   This episode is brought to you by BetterHelp! For 10% of...

Ep. 94 And A Half: Welcome To Plathville Season 4 Recap ( Kim and Barry Plath / Divorce / Ethan / Olivia / Micah / Moriah / Strip Club Etiquette / Jamaica / Reality TV / TLC / Drama / Family / Weed ) 10.08.2022

You know what it is. All the spice. Sadie and Gavi are here with their takes on everything that occurred in season 4 of welcome to Plathville. Micah's birthday party at the strip club. Kim and Barry's divorce. Olivia's memorial ultimatum. Kim's financial exploitation of her son. Ethan smokes weed for the first time. Moriah's fight with Olivia. It's all here. Be sure that you've tuned into the Plat...

Ep. 94: Plathville Part 2: Seasons 1-3 Recap (TLC / Reality TV / Welcome To Plathville / Plath Family / Deconstruction / Vision Forum / IFB / Kim / Barry / Ethan / Olivia / Micah / Moriah / Music) 08.08.2022

In today's episode, Sadie and Gavri'el recap Welcome to Plathville seasons 1-3. (Season 4 recap will be available for streaming on Wednesday)  They talk about everything from Ethan and Olivia going no contact with Kim and Barry, Moriah getting thrown out at 17 and pursuing a music career, Micah's modeling career, Moriah's sh***y ex-boyfriend Max, Kim's constant manipulation, and Kim's ongoing...

Ep. 93: How To: Dating (Ex-fundie / Fundie Snark / Deconstruction / Purity Culture / Relationships / Sex Education / Consent / Exvangelical) 01.08.2022

In this episode, Sadie and Gavri'el discuss learning how to date after leaving fundamentalism.  If you want us to talk about something you'd like to learn how to do, please send your questions to LeavingEdenPod@Gmail.com WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.threadless.com Stream the Leaving Eden Podcast theme song, Rolling River of Time on Spotify!...

Ep. 92: Plathville Part 1: Are The Plaths IBLP or IFB? (NEW INFO) ( Fundie Snark / TLC / Jill Rodrigues / J-Rod / Duggars / Theology / Deconstruction / ATI / Quiverfull / Fundamentalism / Reality TV) 01.08.2022

Sadie and Gavri'el begin their deep dive (Part 1 of 2) into the Plath family from TLC's Welcome to Plathville! They introduce the family members, the premise of the show, and Sadie uses her ex-fundie research skills to discover new and previously unknown information about the specifics of the Plaths' religious beliefs, including the details of their ties to both IFB and IBLP branches of Christian...

Ep. 91: Burnout (Deconstruction / Theology / Fundie Snark / Fundie Life / Balance / Lifestyle / Fundamentalism / Physical Health / Mental Health) 18.07.2022

In this episode, Sadie and Gavri'el discuss the very real dangers that fundamentalist life poses to a person's physical and mental health, namely through overwork and sleep depravation.  WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.threadless.com Profits from all pride-themed merch go to Point of Pride, an organization that provides resources for trans and...

Ep. 90: Warren Jeffs and the FLDS (Mormonism / Fundamentalism / LDS / Keep Sweet Pray and Obey / Religion / Jesus / John Smith) 11.07.2022

In This Episode, Sadie and Gavi talk about the FLDS, Eat Sweet Pray and Obey, and Warren and Rulon Jeffs.  WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.threadless.com Profits from all pride-themed merch go to Point of Pride, an organization that provides resources for trans and nonbinary people across the United States, including in Texas and Florida Stream...

Ep. 89: Christian Nationalism (Biblical Literalism Is Idolatry) (American History / Theology / 4th of July / Fundie Snark / Christian Music / Manifest Destiny) 04.07.2022

Happy 4th of July! On today's episode, Sadie explains to Gavri'el exactly where the idea of Christian Nationalism comes from, and why so many Christians in the United States believe that America is supposed to be a Christian nation.  Note: We recorded this episode several weeks prior to the US Supreme Court's reversal of Roe v. Wade. Because of this, we make MANY jokes about topics that are R...

Ep. 88: The Leaving Eden Drag Brunch Returns With Listener Stories! (Feat. Dinah House-Fire) (Pride / LGBTQ / Mailbag / Deconstruction / Fun) 27.06.2022

Sadie and Gavi are ONCE AGAIN joined by Dinah House-Fire the greatest ex-fundie drag performer and exorcism recipient to ever live. The three of them read listener stories, Euphoria, and Gavi's hypothetical drag persona.  This Pride month, we are fundraising for Point of Pride, an amazing organization that provides resources including HRT and other medical care to trans and nonbinary people i...

Ep. 87: Pride 3: The Gayzer Beam (Grooming Libel) (LGBTQ+ Rights / Fundamentalism / Politics / History / Deconstruction / Cult Deprogramming) 20.06.2022

On this episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss the libelous allegations of grooming that are being leveled against the LGBTQ+ community. Don't worry though, it's not all pain and trauma!  Source post for this episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/67870328 "Inside a Cult" Documentary: https://www.youtube.com/watch?app=desktop&v=pwI6py78gsI This Pride month, we are fundraising for Point of Pride,...

Ep. 86: Pride Month Special Interview with Elizabeth Hunter! (AHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!) (Deconstruction) 13.06.2022

On Today's AMAZING episode, Sadie and Gavi get to talk to the one and only Liz Hunter, AKA LITERALLY the coolest person to ever escape from fundamentalism. We would try to summarize this in the description but there is simply TOO MUCH to summarize. Make sure you check out Liz's new book, Hearts of Clay and Tempest. https://www.nymeriapublishing.com/hearts-of-clay-and-tempest  This Pride month, we...

Ep. 85: The History of Pride (And Why You Shouldn't Be A TERF) (LGBTQ / IFB / Fundamentalism / Deconstruction / Cult Stories / Queer Stories / Gay / Lesbian / Bisexual / Transgender / Nonbinary) 06.06.2022

In today's pride month special episode, Sadie tells us all about the history of pride and LGBTQ+ activism in the United States, and explains how trans rights are inherently tied to the rights for not just the whole LGBTQ+ community, but to women's rights as well! This Pride month, we are fundraising for Point of Pride, an amazing organization that provides resources including HRT and other medical...

Ep. 84: Cult Leaders And Convicted Pedophiles Are Bad At Writing Mental Health Self-Help Books (Feat. Dr. Shoshana Fagen) (IFB / Fundamentalism / Jack Schaap / First Baptist Church of Hammond) 30.05.2022

Ex-Cult leader, former FBCH Pastor, and convicted pedophile/sex trafficker "Dr." Jack Schaap believes that he is an expert in mental health and christian counseling. Gavi and Sadie are joined by ACTUAL Dr. Shoshana Fagen to talk about why Jack Schaap's book "Healing for the Inner Hurts" is just about the worst book that you could give somebody who is suffering with their mental health. This book i...

Josh Duggar Sentencing Special: 12 Years and Counting (Duggars / IBLP / ATI / Quiverfull / True Crime / Trial Coverage / Amy King / Caleb Williams / Anna Duggar / Michelle Duggar / Fundie Snark) 26.05.2022

Sadie and Gavi discuss Josh Duggar's sentencing, from motions, to objections, to his prison term. They also discuss the letters written to the judge by Michelle and Anna Duggar, as well as various recent public statements made about the trial by Amy Duggar King and Caleb Williams.  Letters written to Hon. Judge Timothy L. Brooks: https://interactive.5newsonline.com/pdfs/duggar-sentencing-2.pd...

Ep. 83: A Day In The Life At Cult College (HAC / IFB / Fundamentalism / Cult Stories / Soulwinning / Hyles Anderson College) 23.05.2022

In this episode, Sadie takes us through a day in her life during college. If you thought high school was hectic, just wait. We hear about fire alarms, dangerous stairs, and getting caught in the crossfire of a gang fight!  An Extended version of this episode is available at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Leaving Eden Podcast Merch available on Teespring! https://teespring.com/stores/leaving-e...

Ep. 82: A Day In The Life In Cult High School (IFB / Deconstruction / Stories / Education / Ministry / Fundamentalism / Pastor's Kid) 16.05.2022

On today's episode, Sadie describes what a day in her life was like during high school, both during the week and on the weekends.  An Extended version of this episode is available at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast Leaving Eden Podcast Merch available on Teespring! https://teespring.com/stores/leaving-eden-podcast-shop Stream the Leaving Eden Podcast theme song, Rolling River of Time on Spotif...

Ep. 81: My Smokin' Hot Wife (Mothers Day) (IFB / Cult Stories / Theology / Deconstruction / Proverbs 31 / Sexism / Misogyny / Relationships / Motherhood / Biblical Womanhood) 09.05.2022

Sadie and Gavri'el honor the occasion of Mothers Day by discussing the proverbial Proverbs 31 woman. Sadie explains how even compliments and praise can be a prison within the IFB, And reveals who she believes is a real life, modern day Proverbs 31 woman.  This episode was recorded prior to the leak of documents revealing a potential overturn of the Roe V. Wade Supreme Court Decision.  Th...

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