Leaving Eden LLC
Leaving Eden Podcast
An Ex-Fundie, Deconstruction, and Cult podcast as told by cult survivor Sadie Carpenter, with her co-host Gavi HaCohen. This podcast covers Sadie's cult, (The Independent Fundamental Baptist church), other cults, (including Jonestown and the Branch Davidians), cult-related media (including reality TV shows and documentaries like The Duggars/19 Kids and Counting, Shiny Happy People, Welcome to Plathville, and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City), famous fundamentalist and fundie influencers, other religions, and the real and present threat that cults and cult ideologies pose to society as a whole...
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Episodes
Ep. 128: Fundies Being "Woke" By Accident (He Gets Us / Paul and Morgan / Girl Defined / Zsusanna Anderson / Lori Alexander / The Transformed Wife / IFB / NIFB / Fundie Snark / Culture War / Racism / Transphobia / Homophobial) 10.04.2023 2:01:28
On Today's episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss instances in which prominent fundies have given accidentally "woke" takes, from Girl Defined's sex work seminar to Paul Olliges insights into the nature of online discourse to the "He Gets Us" super bowl ads. They also discuss the etymology of the word "woke" and how it came to be the dogwhistle/boogeyman that the religious right has made it out to be in...
Ep. 127: Fundie Pastors Wives (deconstruction / burnout / fundamentalism / cult stories / Jesus / christianity / church) 03.04.2023 2:21:06
In today's episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss the multitude of responsibilities that are taken on by pastors wives in christian fundamentalism. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritual abuse including...
Ep. 126: Mike Warnke The Satan Seller (Part 2) (Satanic Panic / Fundamentalism / Conspiracy Theory / Illuminati / New World Order / Witchcraft / Occult / Grifters / John Todd) 27.03.2023 1:49:52
Today's episode is the 2nd part of a 2-part episode exploring and debunking the claims make by Mike Warnke in his 1972 book, "The Satan Seller." In this book, Warnke claims to have been a satanic high priest involved with the illuminati, and that he had satanic occult powers to summon demons and put spells on people. These claims launched Warnke's decades-long career as a christian speaker until h...
Ep. 125: Mike Warnke The Satan Seller (Part 1) (Satanic Panic / Fundamentalism / Conspiracy Theory / Illuminati / New World Order / Witchcraft / Occult / Grifters / John Todd) 20.03.2023 1:50:26
Today's episode is the first part of a 2-part episode exploring and debunking the claims make by Mike Warnke in his 1972 book, "The Satan Seller." In this book, Warnke claims to have been a satanic high priest involved with the illuminati, and that he had satanic occult powers to summon demons and put spells on people. These claims launched Warnke's decades-long career as a christian speaker until...
Ep. 124: Pastors School (IFB / Jack Hyles / Jack Schaap / David Hyles / First Baptist Church of Hammond / FBCH / Fundamentalism / Grooming / Deconstruction / Purity Culture / Christianity / Evangelical) 13.03.2023 1:59:44
On today's episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss Pastors School, the massive IFB pastors convention held at First Baptist Church of Hammond every spring. Sadie gives us the history of the event, some truly ludicrous Pastors School stories, the grueling schedule for the attendees, and one deeply inappropriate sermon she was made to listen to when she was a young teenager. In general we talk about a lot o...
Ep. 123: Lori Alexander The Transformed Wife With Jen From Fundie Fridays (Fundie Snark / Fundamentalism / J-Rod / Jill Rodrigues / Michael and Debi Pearl / Misogyny ) 06.03.2023 1:52:12
On today's amazing crossover, Sadie and Gavi are joined by the reverend Jen of the YouTube channel Fundie Fridays to discuss Lori Alexander, AKA The Transformed Wife. An extended, uncensored, and ad-free version of this podcast episode is available to subscribers at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.threadless.com Stream...
Ep. 122: Is Toxic Masculinity A Cult? (Manosphere Deep Dive) ( Incels / Misogyny / Andrew Tate / Jordan Peterson / Self Help Guru / Anti-Woke / Gender Critical / Reactionary / Fundamentalism) 27.02.2023 2:11:09
In today's episode, Gavi presents an overview of what he has learned over the past 5 months during his deep dive into the manosphere. He and Sadie discuss how the thought patterns that are relied upon for toxic masculinity to operate absolutely share elements with cult control. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suici...
Ep. 121: Jinger Duggar's Book: Listener Responses/Calvinism (Duggars / Fundie Snark / TLC / 19 Kids And Counting / Counting On / IBLP / IFB / Reformed Doctrine / John MacArthur / Jeremy Vuolo) 20.02.2023 1:17:58
In this episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss a few additional details of Jinger Duggar Vuolo's book, Becoming Free Indeed . They then read and react to listener responses regarding the prospective doctrines with which Jinger is raising her children. An extended, uncensored, and ad-free version of this podcast episode is available to subscribers at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILA...
Ep. 120: Why Heathens Have Better Sex Than Christians (Paul and Morgan / Girl Defined / Fundie Sex Influencers / Purity Culture / Dating / Relationships / Valentine's Day ) 13.02.2023 2:20:02
On this Valentine's Day special, Sadie and Gavi discuss sex advice from notorious fundie sex influencers Paul & Morgan and Girl Defined. Later, they are joined by sex therapist Liat Fruman to get a qualified professional's take on this advice. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, m...
Ep. 119: Becoming Free Indeed: We Read Jinger Duggar Vuolo's New Book So That You Don't Have To (Fundie Snark / IBLP / Fundamentalism / Cult Stories / Calvinism / Theology / Religion / Jesus / Christianity / Bill Gothard / Sex Pest Josh Duggar) 06.02.2023 2:37:40
Sadie and Gavri'el review Jinger Duggar Vuolo's new book, Becoming Free Indeed. Related Episodes: Calvinism: Episode 117 Bill Gothard and the IBLP: Episodes 42, 43, and 70 Duggar Family Rundowns: Episodes 16. 17, 75, and 76 Josh Duggar Trial/Duggar Update episodes: The Pest Arrested Special Episodes: May. 1-6 2021 Josh Duggar Trial Special Episodes: Dec. 4-9 2021 Josh Duggar Sentencing Special: M...
Ep. 118: The King James Bible Code (Numerology / Theology / KJVO / Conspiracy / Solving Puzzles / Easter Eggs / Fundamentalism / Proof / Cypher / Da Vinci Code / National Treasure / Religion / IFB) 30.01.2023 1:45:50
On today's episode, Sadie explains the numerological "evidence" that fundamentalists use to prove that the King James Version of the Bible is the full and complete word of God in English. Sadie and Gavi explore the logical fallacies that these "proofs" rely upon. They then explore the much murkier waters of "Bible Code" and how this is used for divination and fortune telling and prophecy in fundam...
Ep. 117: Calvinism (Christianity / Protestant Reformation / Theology / TULIP / Predestination / Salvation / Religion / Jesus / God / Holy Spirit / Baptist / IFB / Arminianism / Evangelical) 23.01.2023 2:01:56
On today's episode, Sadie and Gavri'el give a broad overview of Calvinism, including its history, its main doctrinal points, (TULIP) and why it has recently seen such a resurgence in popularity. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, phys...
Ep. 116: Let's All Get Triggered By Fundie Children's Music (NIGHTMARE FUEL) (IFB / Fundamentalism / Religion / Christianity / Songs / Church / React / Theology / Racism / Jeopardy / Jesus) 16.01.2023 1:58:19
Sadie and Gavri'el play a jeopardy-inspired game show in which they react to various IFB children's songs. These songs are categorized from "mostly OK" to "Christian Nationalism," to "IFB Doctrines" to "Toxic Positivity" to "Otherwise Problematic." Please enjoy at your own risk. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide a...
Ep. 115: What Did Jesus Look Like? (Christianity / Judaism / Religion / Moses / Israelites / Hebrew / IFB / Fundamentalism / Heaven / Theology / King David / Solomon / Art History / Judea) 09.01.2023 1:43:07
In today's episode, Sadie describes the IFB's rules about depictions of Jesus and Gavi examines multiple theories of what Jesus and other biblical figures might have looked like. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and...
Ep. 114: Jonestown, Jim Jones, and The People's Temple (Cult Stories / True Crime / Guyana / Commune / Compound / Kool Aid / Flavor Aid / Mass Suicide / Revolution / Communism / Death ) 02.01.2023 2:35:13
In what is quite possibly Leaving Eden Podcast's most requested episode ever, Sadie and Gavi discuss Jonestown, The People’s Temple, and the massacre that occurred there in November of 1978.TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical,...
Ep. 113: Gavi Visits First Baptist Church of Hammond / Hebrew Hammer (Exfundie / Deconstruction / Christmas / Hanukkah / Chanukah / Jack Hyles / Jack Schaap / Jesus / Andy Dick / Religion / Film) 19.12.2022 1:25:18
For the final episode of 2022, Sadie and Gavi discuss the film "The Hebrew Hammer." Gavi recounts his impressions of First Baptist Church of Hammond after seeing it in person. An extended, uncensored, and ad-free version of this podcast episode is available to subscribers at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.thread...
Ep. 112: Sadie Explains Why The King James Version Is(n't) The Only Valid Bible Translation (Fundamentalism / Theology / History / Documentary / Religion / Christianity / Baptist / KJVO / IFB / Hyles) 12.12.2022 2:10:42
In today's episode, Sadie recounts the history of various bible translations into Greek, Latin, and finally English, and why the Fundamentalists are so insistent that the King James version is the ONLY valid word of God in english. This documentary-style episode is truly fascinating, and cuts to the core of the beliefs of fundamentalism. An extended, uncensored, and ad-free version of this p...
Ep. 111: Potato Salad, Potlucks Dinners, and Pimento Cheese: We Talk About Food (Again) (Church / IFB / Fundamentalism / Ambrosia / Mayonnaise Cake / Cheeseburger Soup / Tater Tot Casserole) 05.12.2022 1:34:54
In this episode, Sadie and Gavri'el talk about food, potluck dinners, and Sadie's happiest childhood memories. Gavi's opinions on food have evolved from last time, and Sadie is no longer suffering from pregnancy-related nausea, so this time should be much better. An extended, uncensored, and ad-free version of this podcast episode is available to subscribers at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast...
Ep. 110: Is Hillsong A Cult? (Pentacostal / Megachurch / Assebmblies of God / Charismatic / Contemporary Christian Music / Abuse / Control / Justin Bieber / Carl Lentz / Brian Houston / Christianity) 28.11.2022 1:56:57
On Today's episode, Sadie and Gavir'el discuss the International Hillsong Megachurch. They discuss contemporary christian music, the Hillsong brand, the association with celebrities, and all of the various scandals surrounding the leadership, ministry, and seminary in order to determine whether or not Hillsong qualifies as a cult using Stephen Hassan's BITE model. An extended, uncensored, an...
Ep. 109: Is It A Cult? Kanye West's Donda Academy and Sunday Service (Personality Cult / Music / Religion / Christianity / Hillsong / Bieber / Kardashian / Ye / Education / Fashion / Hip Hop / Rap) 21.11.2022 2:05:03
In this episode, Sadie and Gavi take what they learned about personality cults and apply the concepts to Kanye West. Specifically, they examine Kanye's Sunday Service celebrity church and his Donda Academy private christian grade school. An extended, uncensored, and ad-free version of this podcast episode is available to subscribers at Patreon.com/LeavingEdenPodcast WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILAB...
Ep. 108: Cult of Personality (Fundamentalism / Religion / Celebrity / Politics / Psychology / Manipulation / Gaslighting / Kanye West / Elon Musk / Beyonce / Taylor Swift / Donald Trump / BITE Model) 14.11.2022 1:39:35
On today's episode, we discuss personality cults, also known as micro-cults. Sadie and Gavi discuss how these cults function, how they are similar or different to traditional cults and abusive relationships, how they form, the types of people who are likely to have them, the behaviors exhibited by personality cult members, and what the ethics around having one are. An extended, uncensored, a...
Ep. 107: (True Crime) The Return of Paul Sand AKA Edward Wayne Farris (Duty 2: The Deuce) (Murder / Texas / Jack Hyles / IFB / Fundamentalism / Sermon Illustration / Cult / Brainwashing / Christian) 07.11.2022 1:26:04
Today is a great day in the world of the Leaving Eden Podcast, because it marks the return of Sadielock Holmes and Nancy Jew. Sadie and Gavi revisit the mystery of Paul Sand (Episode 26), a "true" story put forward by Jack Hyles in his famous sermon, "Duty." A tip from listener Casey Atkins (Thank you Casey!) points them in the direction of the 1964 murder of Agnes Farris, at the hand of her husba...
Ep. 106: The Demon Test (Bob Larson Exorcist Extrordinaire) (Occult / Satanic Panic / Fundamentalism / Religion / Christianity / Jesus / Exorcism / Generational Sin / Curse / Racism / Fundie Snark) 31.10.2022 2:19:39
In today's episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss the extrordinary exploits of exorcist Bob Larson. From his humble roots to his *interesting* theology to his time touring with legendary thrash metal band, Slayer. After viewing footage of Bob Larson performing exorcisms, Sadie and Gavi take a questionnaire from Larson's website to determine the likelihood of whether either or both of them suffer from dem...
Ep. 105: The Burning Hell (Spooky / HELLoween / Halloween / Theology / Bad Movie / Film Review / Fundamentalism / Exploitation / Grindhouse Gospel / Baptist / Sin / Bible / 1970s / Genre / B-Movie) 24.10.2022 1:32:35
On today's episode, Sadie introduces Gavi to this terribly entertaining entry in fundamentalist filmmaking, "The Burning Hell." (1974) This entire film is available to watch on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR8VkciG1jo CW: This episode contains an extended discussion of Hell. WE HAVE NEW MERCH AVAILABLE, AND A NEW MERCH SHOP, at https://leavingedenpodcast.threadless.com Stream the...
Ep. 104: Agape Boarding School (Troubled Teen Industry / TTI / Abuse / Fundamentalism / Christianity / Physical / Sexual / Emotional / True Crime / Kidnapping / Legal Case / Justice / IFB / Roloff) 17.10.2022 1:51:03
In this episode, Sadie and Gavi discuss the abusive Agape boarding school in Missouri, and the looming threat that it posed to fundamentalist kids growing up. TW: In general we talk about a lot of potentially triggering topics on this show, including but not limited to suicide and mental health, racism, misogyny, PTSD and PTSD symptoms, child abuse, mental, physical, and sexual abuse, and spiritua...
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