Leaving Eden LLC

Leaving Eden Podcast

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An Ex-Fundie, Deconstruction, and Cult podcast as told by cult survivor Sadie Carpenter, with her co-host Gavi HaCohen. This podcast covers Sadie's cult, (The Independent Fundamental Baptist church), other cults, (including Jonestown and the Branch Davidians), cult-related media (including reality TV shows and documentaries like The Duggars/19 Kids and Counting, Shiny Happy People, Welcome to Plathville, and Real Housewives of Salt Lake City), famous fundamentalist and fundie influencers, other religions, and the real and present threat that cults and cult ideologies pose to society as a whole...

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Latest episode

Jul 8, 2026

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Episodes

Bill Gothard Is In A Coma (With Dee from Umbrella Rebellion) 08.07.2026

Everyone who signs up to my giveaway wins either a free WhisperVibe™ or a FREE Rose toy with any WhisperTech™ purchase! https://www.bboutique.co/vibe/leavingeden-pod #bbpartner We are joined by Dee from Umbrella Rebellion to discuss the recent news that Bill Gothard had a heart attack and is currently in a coma. This news comes just months prior to an expected deposition in a lawsuit on behalf of...

Pride Stories with Dinah House-Fire 30.06.2026

In this episode, we read listener stories with our wonderful friend, Dinah House-Fire! Thank you to everyone who wrote in! Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Patreon for extended, uncensored, and ad-free versions of most of our episodes, as well as other patron perks and bonus content! https://www.patreon.com/LeavingEdenP...

Queer Identities and Deconstruction 23.06.2026

EVERYONE who signs up wins a FREE toy or gift card! https://www.bboutique.co/vibe/leavingeden-pod In this episode, we discuss the commonalities between searching for a religious (or formerly religious) person during deconstruction and searching searching for an identity as a member of the LGBTQ community. We discuss the pros and cons of labels, as well as the connotations certain labels bring! Nex...

Abusive Relationships and Cults 16.06.2026

Sadie takes us through the BITE model and discusses how cult control looks in an abusive relationship and how similar it is to Christian Fundamentalism. 00:00 - Intro 08:00 - Why are cults like abusive relationships? 12:27 - Behavior Control 17:30 - Written and unwritten rules 31:03 - Information Control 46:00 - Thought Control 52:48 - Emotion Control 59:00 - Queer Relationships Subscribe to Leavi...

Un-Clobbering the clobber verses 09.06.2026

EVERYONE who signs up to my giveaway with @bellesaco will receive a FREE Rose suction toy with their order! https://www.bboutique.co/vibe/leavingeden-pod In this episode, we go through seven major bible verses that are most often used to promote anti-LGBTQ hate within Christianity and alternate (and in some cases more accurate and reasonable) interpretations. Sadie's theory is that in these verses...

Anna and Josh Duggar's Prison Emails 03.06.2026

In this episode, we discuss the emails sent between Josh and Anna Duggar between Josh's trial and sentencing in late 2021/2022. The extended version of this episode which contains the discussion of NSFW emails sent between Josh and Anna is available at Patreon. Com/LeavingEdenPodcast Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast on YouTube! https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCJ4q94gAnsoW2jME4SvVrrQ Join our Pat...

Duggar Vehicle Tier List 26.05.2026

In what is potentially the dumbest piece of content we have ever made, we present to you our duggar vehicles tier list. Yes, we made a tier list of every single vehicle mentioned in the Josh Duggar jail emails obtained by Lily Archive (the GOAT) by FOIA request. If you like this type of brainrotted nonsense, please tell us so we can make more of it. Full tier list is located here, along with image...

Duggar Prison Emails: Josh's SHOCKING Ignorance about the Bible and coded messages sent in scripture 19.05.2026

This past month, Josh Duggar's prison emails sent between his conviction in December of 2021 and his sentencing in June of 2022 were revealed to the public via FOIA request (Thank You Lily Archive). In this episode, we go through the emails sent between Joshua Duggar and his spiritual advisor, LaCount Reber. Joshua stayed with the Reber family when he was out on bail during his trial. These emails...

Fundie Mental Gymnastics: Drinking and Alcohol 12.05.2026

In this episode, we discuss the mental gymnastics Fundies perform to say that drinking alcohol is a sin, even though Jesus turned water into wine. We go into the history of where the fundie taboo around drinking came from, how a social taboo became integrated into a religious doctrine, and why this makes zero sense. In the Patreon extended edition, Sadie talks about her job working with at risk te...

Fundies take the WORST lessons from King David 05.05.2026

Chad joins us once again to talk about OTHER bible stories about King David and his family, and what lessons fundamentalists take from them. We examine why King David is seen as such a great king despite the many failures of his rule and the mess that was his family. We discuss Absalom's rebellion, Tamar's assault, and the ??? story that is the story of Abashag. Subscribe to Leaving Eden Podcast o...

I went to the "Tradwife College" that Vanity Fair wrote about, and it's SO much worse than you think 28.04.2026

In today's episode, Sadie discusses the recent article in Vanity Fair about Hyles-Anderson College, which she attended from the fall of 2011 until the spring of 2013. While this article did a good job of explaining what makes this college so controlling, we felt that this subject would have been better served with a longer-form piece that focused more on the deeper aspects of control rather than J...

Caldwell Family Statement/Josh Duggar's Attempt to Get a New Trial (Duggar Update) 21.04.2026

In this episode, we discuss Josh Duggar's attempt to vacate his conviction and secure a new trial based on the theory that Caleb William was the guilty party in his crime. We discuss his issues with filing deadlines, as well as how quickly Josh's sentence has gone by. We also discuss the statement released by the Caldwell Family regarding Joe Duggar's alleged crimes, what this says about their cur...

Are Christians exempt from taxation? 14.04.2026

In this episode, we discuss Christian beliefs around taxation, as well as why some fundamentalist Christians like Kent Hovind have opted for a sovereign citizen defense. At the end of the episode, we discuss the creative ways that Jim Bob Duggar has avoided taxation by passing his tax burden off onto his children. Source images are located on this Patreon post (the sources are not paywalled) https...

Christian-ese translated to English: Duggar Family Turns on Joe, Emails Decoded 07.04.2026

In this episode, Gavi proves how much he has learned about fundie culture by showing Sadie his INSPIRED AND PRESERVED translation from Fundie/Christian-ese to plain English of the Duggar Jail Emails that were obtained by Lilly Archive using the FOIA. Sadie then provides additional cultural context as well as a few things from these emails that stood out to her. In the extended Patreon edition of t...

Caldwells Vs. Duggars? The Caldwells raise funds for a legal battle 05.04.2026

In this episode, we discuss the GoFundMe that Paul Caldwell (Kendra Duggar's father) posted which has since been deleted. All of the sources for this episode are located here, on this post on Patreon https://www.patreon.com/posts/caldwells-vs-for-154830204 00:00 - Intro 04:12 - Disclaimers 05:13 - The Caldwells' latest moves 08:00 - GoFundMe taken down 08:35 - We have so many questions 10:55 - The...

The Jail Emails/Joe Duggar Pleads Not Guilty: Our Analysis 03.04.2026

Today we discuss the latest developments in the Joe Duggar case. Duggar has pleaded Not Guilty to all charges in Florida, has been released on a $600,000 bond, and (we think) is back in Arkansas. YouTuber Lily Archive has released numerous phone calls as well as emails sent to Joe Duggar while he was in jail in Arkansas. She obtained this material using a FOIA request (she has shown provenance). T...

Shiny Happy People Star joins us to talk about Duggar arrests, fake(?) documents, and IBLP 31.03.2026

Shiny Happy People star Chad Harris joins us on this episode to discuss the latest developments in the Joe/Kendra Duggar cases. We discuss the potentially fake documents published by Katie Joy of the YouTube Channel "Without a Crystal Ball," the Joe/Kendra Duggar phone call, statements made by Jinger/Jeremy, and Jason/Maddie. In the third segment we answer listener questions about the arrests, abo...

Kendra Duggar charged/Duggar family statements/Will there be a trial? 24.03.2026

In this episode, we discuss the continuing fallout from Joseph Duggar's arrest for child molestation, including Kendra Duggar's Child Endangerment/False Imprisonment charges, our breakdown of these charges, family statements made by/on behalf of Duggar family members, and our speculation on whether or not this case will go to trial. In the extended patreon edition, we discuss in greater detail our...

Joe Duggar has been arrested 20.03.2026

n this special episode, we discuss the charges filed against former 19 Kids and Counting/Counting On star Joseph Duggar. Duggar is accused of committing Lewd and Lascivious Behavior, involving unlawful sexual activity with a minor. He has been taken into custody. The alleged molestation occurred some time in 2020. In this episode we discuss everything that we currently know, everything we don't kn...

What do they teach at Cult College? 17.03.2026

In today's episode, Sadie tells us all about Hyles-Anderson College, the fundamentalist cult bible college that she enrolled in as an 18-year-old. We discuss the reason why a cult would want to have a college, the history of the school, what gets taught in classes at Hyles-Anderson, the school rules, and the predatory financial programs the school uses to keep students from dropping out or leaving...

5 ultra-specific rules of Christian Fundamentalism that make no sense 10.03.2026

Sadie takes us through the five categories of Crazy Fundie Rules, and how these rules affect your life when you are trying to live by them. Some of them have biblical justifications, some of them are completely made up by some pastor somewhere and ended up being widely adopted. Fundie pastors use these rules as a way to physically and psychologically control church members, and they can be quite d...

Are we living in a SIMULATION? 03.03.2026

Today, Gavi FINALLY gets to talk about his favorite topic, Jean Beaudrillard's "Simulacra and Simulation," which explains Hyperreality. "The Matrix" film is allegorical to the postmodern condition of Hyperreality. We discuss examples of simulacra, Hyperreality, and the history of how we (in the western canon) came to view the world this way. We discuss simulated reality as it relates to christian...

Do we live in a Post-Truth society? 24.02.2026

In this episode, Sadie takes us through two different theories of truth, and what it means for a statement to be true or not true. In using these two theories of truth, we discuss how anti-trans crusaders like Matt Walsh or Christian fundamentalist biblical literalists use bait-and-switch tactics to distort what their followers perceive as the truth. These bad faith arguments can be avoided by avo...

The Insane Reason Why Fundies ONLY Use The King James Bible 17.02.2026

In this episode, Sadie takes us through the bizarre reasoning behind Fundamentalism's stipulation that the King James version is NOT ONLY the "best" version of the bible in English, but that it is actually not a translation, but God's own words, just as valid as the original texts in Greek, Hebrew, and Aramaic. We also discuss how this belief leads to other fundie beliefs like quiverfull, and wome...

The Purity Culture Fundie Dating Manual MORE EXTREME Than I Kissed Dating Goodbye 14.02.2026

In this episode, we review "Dating With a Purpose," which is an IFB purity culture dating manual targeted at teens and young adults in the IFB and at Hyles-Anderson college. It was written by Jack Schaap, who later went to prison for sexually abusing a child who was a student at the high school where he was chaplain. We also discuss Dr. James Dobson of Focus on the Family's appearance in the Epste...

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