Liz Dye; Andrew Torrez
Law and Chaos
Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That's true for a traffic stop, and it's true if you want to participate in whatever's left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week's most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it's Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we've got you covered.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Ep 119 — But Her Signal Messages 28.03.2025 59:29
Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Trump hand-picked his national security team to troll the libs, and boy did he get us good. From Pete Hegseth to Tulsi Gabbard to John Ratcliffe, each pick seemed more incompetent than the last. But are they also criminals? We break down all the criminal, civil, and record-keeping issues in Signalgate. Also: we've got good news from the D.C. Circuit as a conse...
Ep 118 — Trump v. Rule of Law 25.03.2025 54:08
It's another week in paradise with the Trump administration trying to burn down the government. First we'll talk about the attack on law firms and judges, then we've got a breakdown of the newest executive order on immigration silos. You know when they try to hide crazy sh*t under the most boring, generic label ever. It's that! Plus subscribers get a visit with Dinesh D'Souza. Links: Perkins Coie...
Ep 117 — DOGE Destroys Another Agency As DOJ Courts Contempt (Ft. Aaron Reichlin-Melnick) 21.03.2025 1:01:58
Musk's fash-coders take out the US Institute for Peace. Mahmoud Khalil's case gets transferred to New Jersey. And the DOJ is daring the court to find it in contempt in the case of the kidnapped Venezuelans. Plus, we have the second half of our interview with immigration expert Aaron Reichlin-Melnick. Links: JGG v. Trump (DC) docket (removal under the Alien Enemies Act) https://www.courtlistener....
Ep 116 — DOJ Courts Contempt In Immigration Case (feat. Aaron Reichlin-Melnick) 18.03.2025 1:03:27
Today, we've got an all-immigration show. We break down J.G.G. v. Trump, the lawsuit seeking to block Trump's effort to summarily deport Venezuelan nationals under a 227-year-old law left over from the Alien and Sedition Acts. Then, we have Part One of our interview with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, Senior Fellow at the American Immigration Council. Links: Presidential Proclamation https://www.whiteh...
Ep 115 — The Rightwing's War On NYT v. Sullivan (Ft David Enrich) 14.03.2025 1:07:39
New York Times financial editor David Enrich joins us to discuss his new book, Murder the Truth, about the history of defamation litigation and the right wing's plan to gut the Sullivan standard to make it easier for politicians to bankrupt journalists for saying mean, true things Links: Murder the Truth https://www.harpercollins.com/products/murder-the-truth-david-enrich?variant=42734343421986...
Ep 114 — After Stealing Congress's Spending Power, Trump Is Back For Advice And Consent 11.03.2025 56:39
It's another week where the DOGE bros are trying to burn down the government, and another week where the courts are trying to stop it. For our main story, we focus on the Trump administration's crazy shenanigans at the United States Africa Development Corp. Trump may have tried to fire Senate-confirmed principal officers by email… to an email address that doesn't exist. Links: Perkins Coie Execu...
Ep 113 — Hey, DOJ, Some Idiot Is Signing Your Name On Pleadings 07.03.2025 1:03:06
Today's episode is another roundup of how trial judges are playing whack-a-mole with the Trump administration, and how all of it fits in with Trump's plan to usurp Congress's power to reshape the country in his image. Plus, we've got some crazy stories featuring the Interim US Attorney for DC trying to strongarm Georgetown University, a blast from the past with bigoted Kentucky court clerk Kim Dav...
Ep 112 — The (Judicial) Center Holds 04.03.2025 54:45
The Supreme Court is still sitting on its (tiny) hands, but trial judges are holding strong against the Trump administration's assault on the rule of law. We'll talk about the pushback to Trump's anti-trans executive orders, his assault on the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and the effort to ensure that the Dear Leader can fire watchdogs at will. Plus subscribers get a deep dive on trial ju...
Ep 111 — Let the Sanctions Rain Down 28.02.2025 1:01:13
The Trump administration is now openly defying court orders as multiple trial court judges seek to rein in the government's illegal conduct. Are sanctions the solution? In at least one case, we won't know until Chief Justice Roberts releases the "administrative hold" he imposed to consider Trump's latest meritless request for help from the Supreme Court. All of this plus the return of ChatGPT lawy...
Ep 110 — It's A TROpallooza 25.02.2025 53:58
The Trump administration has been sued by everyone and their mother, and we're here to cover it all. From the First Amendment violations to the illegal terminations, we've got you covered. Plus, we've got an update in the Eric Adams case. Links: AP v. Budowich https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69662918/associated-press-v-budowich Philadelphia Yearly Meeting of the Religious Society of Friend...
Ep 109 — Trump Demands VIP Pass To SCOTUS 21.02.2025 56:18
It's been another wild week as the Trump administration took some time off from breaking all the laws to break the rules of civil procedure. Will the Supreme Court let them get away with it? Links: AIDS VACCINE ADVOCACY COALITION v. UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF STATE https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69627654/aids-vaccine-advocacy-coalition-v-united-states-department-of-state/ Metropolitan Tra...
Ep 108 — Trump Demands Immunity From Rules of Civil Procedure 18.02.2025 58:58
We follow up on the Thursday Night Massacre, as Acting Deputy Attorney General Emil Bove finally got someone to file the paperwork to dismiss the case against New York Mayor Eric Adams. And we do a deep dive into Dellinger v. Bessent, as the Trump administration asks the Supreme Court to remind everyone that the laws don't actually apply to Donald Trump. All of that and DOCKET ALERTS! Links: C...
Ep 107 — Thursday Night Massacre 14.02.2025 55:01
Trump's personal lawyers are turning the DOJ into a protection racket, dropping bribery charges against NYC Mayor Eric Adams after he agreed to violate the City's immigration laws. But they can't find any lawyer in the Justice Department to implement their corrupt decree. At least seven prosecutors have been fired or quit. But will anyone in America notice? Links: Sassoon resignation letter http...
Ep 106 — The Musk Parasite Multiplies 11.02.2025 58:38
Donald Trump got bored during the Super Bowl, and now apparently pennies are illegal. Also, as everything Trump torches the entire executive branch, trial judges aim their garden hoses at the flames to save what they can. Today we'll talk about as many cases as we can cram into an hour. Come for the DOGE take over of Treasury, stay for the Project 2025 shutdown of the Consumer Financial Protection...
Ep 105 — The Week Everyone Sued The Trump Administration 07.02.2025 55:46
Donald Trump's blitzkrieg of executive orders is running into a million lawsuits. And Elon Musk's inability to keep his mouth shut isn't helping. We'll discuss the avalanche of lawsuits by labor unions, non-profits, FBI agents, and anonymous federal employees, along with the judiciary's response. Links: 44 USC § 3501 Note https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/44/3501 Musk associates sough...
Ep 104 — Muskrats Invade Federal Agencies 04.02.2025 1:05:48
Elon Musk has invaded Washington. He has set loose a pack of feral teenage code monkeys with a god complex inside every federal agency, promising to do for Washington what he did for Twitter. What could possibly go wrong? Oh, and Musk also has a plan to "rightsize" the government by waving unenforceable contracts at federal employees to induce them into resigning. There's a Fork in the Road all ri...
Ep 103 — Trump Executive Orders Wind Up In All The Courts 31.01.2025 56:11
Trump issued dozens of imperial edicts — oh, sorry, executive orders. Many of them are wildly illegal, mostly are deeply cruel, and all are being challenged in court. We'll discuss the pending injunctions on his birthright citizenship order and the "pause" on government spending so that he can redline the federal budget and delete all the "woke." Links: Trump v. Meta docket https://www.courtl...
Ep 102 — Trump Steals The Budget (Ft. Bobby Kogan) 28.01.2025 1:04:45
Everyone knows that Congress has the power of the purse. What this administration presupposes is … maybe they don't??? We'll talk about Trump's decision to steal budgeting power from Congress in violation of both the Constitution and the Impoundment Control Act with Office of Management and Budget Alum Bobby Kogan. Links: Bobby Kogan https://www.americanprogress.org/people/bobby-kogan/ Ph...
Ep 101 — Executive Orders: Birthright Citizenship and Disappearing Trans People From Public Life 24.01.2025 58:50
We're breaking down two of the vilest executive orders Trump signed on his first day in office. First up, he's attacking trans people every way he can, and the crueler, the better. How does this interact with the Supreme Court's holding in Bostock? And Trump ignored 125 years of precedent to declare birthright citizenship illegal. One federal judge has already said NFW. Subscribers get a discussio...
Ep 100 — Immigration Under Trump (ft. Dan Kowalski) 21.01.2025 52:48
Trump has vowed to deport millions of undocumented immigrants and close the border. Today's guest, Dan Kowalski, practiced immigration law for 38 years and writes extensively on the subject. We'll break down what to expect and how to fight back. Links: Involuntary Departure, by Dan Kowalski https://dankowalski.substack.com/ American Council on Education: Immigration-Related Campus Concerns h...
Ep 99 — Half A Special Counsel Report Is Like Half A Democracy 17.01.2025 1:04:54
As we prepare for the disaster, we break down Volume One of the Special Counsel Report, and discuss the brazen hackery behind Judge Cannon's effort to bury Volume Two. And Rudy settles with Ruby Freeman and Shaye Moss. Is that good or bad news? Links: SMITH FINAL REPORT Vol. 1 https://www.justice.gov/storage/Report-of-Special-Counsel-Smith-Volume-1-January-2025.pdf Free Speech Coalition v. Pa...
Ep 98 — Aileen Cannon, Alex Jones, Arkansas 14.01.2025 57:10
Judge Aileen Cannon is popping off, the Alex Jones bankruptcy continues to be crazy, and judges in Arkansas are going to war with each other. Plus, as always, we'll check in with our pal Rudy. Links: Alex Jones - TX Plaintiffs settlement https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750/gov.uscourts.txsb.459750.1011.0.pdf McKesson v. Arkansas complaint https://www.documentcloud....
Ep 97 — Trump Loses, and Loses, and … Wins? 10.01.2025 48:55
Trump narrowly loses his bid at SCOTUS to stave off his sentencing in New York. And the 11th Circuit denies his bid to bury the Special Counsel report. But the case is now back in front of Judge Aileen Cannon, so opportunities for f*ckery abound! Links: Judge Cannon Manages To Out-Crazy Judge Kacsmaryk https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/judge-cannon-manages-to-out-crazy SCOTUS Trump Docket...
Ep 96 — Trump Demands Dismissal Of NY Case For President-Elect Immunity 07.01.2025 56:54
Trump is losing his mind at the prospect of being sentenced Friday for his 34 felony business accounts. Now he's demanding that the case be stayed based on president-elect immunity, something his lawyers Todd Blanche and Emil Bove made up yesterday. And, as always, Rudy Giuliani is wilding out in court. Links: Please Keep Shit Talking Judges https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/please-keep-shit-ta...
Ep 95 — The Blake Lively/Justin Baldoni Defamation/Harassment Suits 03.01.2025 1:04:40
Blake Lively is suing Justin Baldoni. Justin Baldoni is suing the New York Times. The New York Times is suing … nobody. Yet. We'll untangle this f-tussle, and for subscribers, we'll break down Rudy Giuliani's wild ride to contempt of court. Links: Paxton NCAA Trollsuit https://www.texasattorneygeneral.gov/sites/default/files/images/press/NCAA%20DTPA%20Petition%20Filed.pdf Sixth Circuit Strik...
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