Liz Dye; Andrew Torrez
Law and Chaos
Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That's true for a traffic stop, and it's true if you want to participate in whatever's left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it's that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week's most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it's Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we've got you covered.
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Jul 10, 2026
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Ep 94 — What To Expect When You're Expecting An Orange Toddler President … AGAIN (ft. Evan Hurst) 31.12.2024 1:12:38
We lived through it once, and we'll do it again. Liz and Andrew talk with Wonkette Senior Editor Evan Hurst about the changing media landscape as we prepare for inauguration. Links: The Moral High Ground https://evanhurst.substack.com/ Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod
Ep 93 — Rudy Giuliani Is Wilding Out, And Polio Is Ready For A Comeback (ft. Andrew Fleischman) 24.12.2024 1:03:25
Rudy Giuliani's wilding out, RFK Jr wants to bring back polio, and the Georgia Court of appeals just set fire to the last remnants of the Trump election interference case. Links: Freeman v. Giuliani [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69015293/freeman-v-giuliani/?order_by=desc GA Court of Appeals Willis Order https://efast.gaappeals.us/download?filingId=cdec17...
Ep 92 — Republicans Finally Found Someone To Blame For J6, And It Is Liz Cheney 20.12.2024 52:25
Republicans in Congress are suggesting that the FBI should LOCK HER UP Liz Cheney, and Donald Trump thinks that's a great idea. But can he do that? We'll discuss. Plus, a Georgia appeals court has disqualified Fulton County DA Fani Willis and her entire office from prosecuting Donald Trump, likely dooming the entire case. And for subscribers, we've got a fun tour of defamation trollsuits from one...
Ep 91 — But Can He Do That: Birthright Citizenship Edition 17.12.2024 1:04:22
Donald Trump has promised to cancel birthright citizenship on Day one. But can he do that? In a word, no. We have a deep dive on the very clear law of birthright citizenship in this country (and all the ways Trump will try and ignore it). We also break down yesterday's decision and order from New York Supreme Court Justice Juan Merchan that presidential immunity does not retroactively invalidate T...
Ep 90 — Dems And Republicans Join Hands To Take Away The Kids' TikTok 13.12.2024 56:43
We talk with TechDirt's Cathy Gellis, who is going to walk us through the DC Circuit's opinion banning TikTok. And in the subscriber bonus, we'll bring you up to speed on Rudy Giuliani's continuing efforts to dodge justice in multiple courts. Links: TikTok v. Garland (DC Cir.) https://media.cadc.uscourts.gov/opinions/docs/2024/12/24-1113-2088317.pdf Petition for injunction staying order https://...
Ep 89 — The Infowars Deal Falls Apart 11.12.2024 1:05:09
Last night US Bankruptcy Judge Christopher Lopez voided the sale of Infowars to The Onion as part of the Alex Jones Bankruptcy. It sucks a lot. And speaking of sucking, let's talk about the Impoundment Control Act and How Trump plans to violate it. Links: ALEX JONES BANKRUPTCY DOCKET https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/ Revised Infowars proposed sale order (REDLINE)...
Ep 88 — Meet Brendan Carr, The Guy Who's Going To Make Internet Service Even Sh*ttier (Ft. Karl Bode) 06.12.2024 1:03:18
Trump has nominated Brendan Carr to chair the FCC, calling him a "warrior for Free Speech" who "will end the regulatory onslaught that has been crippling America's Job Creators and Innovators, and ensure that the FCC delivers for rural America." But as tech journalist Karl Bode explains, Carr has threatened to go after media outlets that criticize Trump, and his plans for rural broadband are eve...
Ep 87 — Skrmetti Preview: How Low Can SCOTUS Go? 03.12.2024 1:03:51
It's a roundup of Hunter Biden, Rudy Giuliani, and Infowars news, before a preview of US v. Skrmetti, the challenge to Tennessee's ban on gender confirming care for minors, which will be argued at the Supreme Court on Wednesday. And for subscribers, we'll catch up with Dinesh D'Souza, who's getting sued by a man he falsely accused of being a "ballot mule." Links: Elon Musk's X is stepping into t...
Ep 86 — For The Low, Low Price of $525, Matt Gaetz Will Send YOU a Special Message 26.11.2024 58:49
Today, we learned that Special Counsel Jack Smith has moved to dismiss both of the federal cases against Donald Trump; we tell you what that means and what happens next. On the plus side, we learned that the Onion is almost certainly going to get to buy Infowars AND the next Attorney General of the United States won't be Matt Gaetz. Although it probably will be Pam Bondi. Oh, and the Supreme Court...
Ep 85 — Can Elon and Vivek Really Burn Down the Federal Government? (feat. Kel McClanahan) 22.11.2024 37:26
Kel McClanahan joins us for part two of the interview, where he tells us how to keep tabs on Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy as they gear up to do for the federal government what Elon did for Twitter. Meanwhile, Donald Trump is not going to jail, Alex Jones continues to be a ghoul, and Rudy Giuliani has found another lawyer to help him humiliate himself in federal court. Links: Rudy Giuliani Can't G...
Ep 84 — The Infowars/Onion Deal Gets Peeled (feat. Kel McClanahan) 19.11.2024 1:06:25
Goblinlover Alex Jones is threatening to jail Ben Collins, CEO of the Onion for trying to buy InfoWars. Meanwhile, the bankruptcy trustee is threatening to seek sanctions against Alex Jones's lawyers for making frivolous arguments and telling half-truths. What's next for the efforts to find some measure of justice for the Sandy Hook families? Plus, Donald Trump seems poised to hand over the nation...
Ep 83 — The Worst Person You Know … Is Getting Eaten By The Onion 15.11.2024 56:33
The Onion is buying Infowars! Unless a bankruptcy judge puts the kibosh on the sale. And Rudy Giuliani's lawyers are pulling the ripcord in the Freeman/Moss case. Also … Attorney General Matt Gaetz? WTF?!?! Links: Onion Press Release https://theonion.com/heres-why-i-decided-to-buy-infowars/ Alex Jones Bankruptcy docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66583024/alexander-e-jones/ Giul...
Ep 82 — Trump Won The Presidency. He's Seizing Congress By Fiat. 12.11.2024 56:25
A week after the election, Trump is already demanding that Congress bend the knee and allow him to staff his administration without bothering to get Senate confirmation. Can he do that? And will the new Senate majority leader let him? Links: Musk's X seeks to steer lawsuits to conservative court in Texas https://www.reuters.com/legal/musks-x-seeks-steer-lawsuits-conservative-court-texas-2024-1...
Ep 81 — What Now? 08.11.2024 42:32
Well, it happened. We talk about what the election of Donald Trump means for you, for the country, for this show, and for the efforts to hold Trump accountable for his crimes against the American people. Special Counsel Jack Smith has announced that he intends to "wrap up" his office; we tell you why and what that means. We'll be here with you, and we'll always tell you the truth. Links: NPR r...
Ep 80 — How To Watch The Election Hour By Hour 05.11.2024 1:20:43
Joe Dye is back to talk us through how to watch the election returns. How similar are Wisconsin and Iowa? When will we know the results out of Georgia? And what's up with that Selzer poll? Andrew and Joe break it all down. Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod Patreon: patreon.com/LawAndChaosPod
Ep 79 — Pennsylvania Gets A Jump On Election Litigation 01.11.2024 1:03:47
Election litigation is well underway in Pennsylvania, even before election day. The Trump campaign has already racked up a win, since they decided that early voting is … good now? Meanwhile Elon Musk is dodging a civil action by Philadelphia's DA over his million dollar "lottery," and Trump filed an absolutely gonzo trollsuit in Texas against CBS. Links: Workers Say They Were Tricked and Threa...
Ep 78 — The Independent State Legislature Theory Is Back Bigly 29.10.2024 55:09
Republicans have discovered ONE WEIRD TRICK to win elections, and it is for the legislatures to steal all the electoral votes. Or if that can't be arranged, they'd accept an intervention from SCOTUS. We'll discuss the independent state legislature theory, as well as Trump's latest filing in the stolen documents appeal. Links: Musk Petition https://petition.theamericapac.org/ Pennsylvania v....
Ep 77 — Bush v. Gore On Steroids 25.10.2024 48:22
What will happen on November 5 if Vice President Harris is narrowly ahead of Trump? Will it look like 2020? Or is it more likely to resemble 2000, with a knock down, drag out fight over every ballot? Liz and Andrew break it down. Links: Musk Is Going All In to Elect Trump https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/11/us/politics/elon-musk-donald-trump-pennsylvania.html Press Release: Benedictine Sister...
Ep 76 — Elon Is Evil, But He's Not Buying Votes 22.10.2024 59:50
Elon Musk is giving Trump's campaign $75 million. Plus he's paying out $1 million per day to "registered voters." Is that a crime, or just a photo op? Meanwhile in DC, what can we learn from the Special Counsel's latest filing in the Trump election case? And we answer questions about how to watch early election night returns. Links: Musk Petition https://petition.theamericapac.org/ US v. Trump...
Ep 75 BONUS — How Kentucky and Indiana Can Tell Us If Kamala Harris Has Won on Election Night 21.10.2024 50:16
In this BONUS episode, elections expert Joe Dye returns to tell us what to watch for when the very first returns on Election Day come in at 6 pm Eastern from Indiana and Kentucky. Learn how those deep red states will help us test six different bits of conventional wisdom we've all heard from the pundits, like whether Kamala Harris is facing a backlash from college students, or whether she has made...
Ep 74 — Judge Blows Up Billion Dollar Boeing Settlement For Excessive WOKE 18.10.2024 58:05
Lt. Gov. Mark "Horndog" Robinson is suing CNN and a former porn shop worker named Louis Love Money for $50 million. And Texas's worst(?) federal judge threatens to tank a Boeing plea deal because the federal monitor might do DEIs. Can't have the airline pay victims of airline crashes unless the deal is 100 percent woke free! And for subscribers, a deep dive into the latest Trump election interfere...
Ep 73— Everything Must Go: The Alex Jones Edition 15.10.2024 1:00:20
The courts are closed, but crazy never takes a break. We'll check in on Alex Jones's bankruptcy liquidation, Donald Trump's shenanigans in the election interference case, and the horror show now that the mifepristone case is back before Judge Matthew Kacsmaryk. Subscribers catch up with Peter Navarro, who seems to be working at cross purposes to his old boss in federal court — although perhaps it...
Ep 72 — Did SCOTUS Leave A Second Escape Hatch For Trump In The Election Case? 11.10.2024 44:41
The Trump election interference case is back, and the immunity ruling isn't the only way the Supreme Court tried to kneecap it. A case called Fischer v. US may prove fatal as well. Also, we take your questions of Florida's abortion and marijuana ballot initiatives. And for subscribers, we catch up with Kraken weirdos Stefanie Lambert and Patrick Byrne. Links: FL Stat. 101-161 http://www.leg.stat...
Ep 71 — Trump Judges Discover One Weird Trick To Get Rid Of Federal Regs (Hint: It Is A Sharpie!) 08.10.2024 59:09
They're baaaaaack! The Supreme Court's October term starts this week, and the howler monkey wing is ready to FSU. Down in Florida, Trump appointee Judge Kathryn Mizelle is doing her best Aileen Cannon impersonation. That story has an old school deep dive from Andrew into 13th century Saxony and beyond. And, for subscribers, we'll unpack an amazing grift in Oklahoma. Links: ABA Letter rating Mi...
Ep 70 — "Make Them Riot. Do It!!!" 04.10.2024 1:12:58
Special Counsel Jack Smith filed his opening salvo since the Supreme Court invented a new doctrine of absolute presidential immunity. Trump complained that the immunity brief is functionally a mini-Special Counsel report, and he's not wrong. But if you don't want your crimes on the public docket, maybe don't try to overthrow democracy! Liz and Andrew break down the latest in Trump's election inter...
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