Marissa Trew & Hanli Hoefer
Just So We're Clear
Just So We’re Clear is hosted by two mixed-race, passionately curious women in Singapore – Hanli Hoefer and Marissa Trew. They bring on a series of guests – sex-positivity and mental health advocates, comedians, adventurers, entrepreneurs, chefs and more – to get their takes on different topics that affect everyone. Always candid and relentlessly authentic, Just So We're Clear is a representative voice of young, modern Asian women.
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Marissa Trew & Hanli Hoefer
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Aug 21, 2025
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Episodes
Never forget the bigger picture. 26.04.2021 32:46
Solo episode story time! This week, Hanli and Marissa discuss soulmates (turns out we have more than one), twin flames and guardian angels... and what it means when you meet one in real life. Hanli shares a heartwarming tale about meeting the spirit of her puppy Zelda. Marissa talks about recognising how life moves forward regardless of what we do, so we shouldn't get bogged down by over-thin...
Taking Little Green Steps feat. Steph Dickson, Green Is The New Black 19.04.2021 42:31
In celebration of Earth Day, we're chatting to Steph Dickson – founder of Green Is The New Black (@greenisthenewblackcom) and the Live Wide Awake (@livewideawake) podcast – about the planet we know and love, and what we can do to make sure we're doing our bit to protect it. We cover: What is intersectional environmentalism? How do we cope with eco-anxiety? I'm just one person, how m...
Where is my mind? feat. Niall Breslin 13.04.2021 1:12:30
Guys. Do yourself a favour. brew yourself some tea and get cosy before you tune into this one. In this very special episode, Marissa interviews Niall Breslin ( @bressie ) – the host of not one but two brilliant podcasts, Where's My Mind ? and Wake Up/Wind Down – and they delve deep into the good, the bad and the ugly of mindfulness, meditation and mental health. In this hour long chat, they...
What's in my underwear? feat. Xi Liu, Ferne Health 05.04.2021 51:20
This episode, we chat to Xi Liu, CEO and founder of Ferne Health – a healthcare provider that offers at-home STD tests and women's health screening kits – about all the weird, wonderful and sometimes gross things our bodies do... and how being embarrassed to talk about it can put us at risk. We chat about: Why it's difficult to discuss women's health Understanding how our differen...
Who else has a crying bitch face? 29.03.2021 34:06
Ugh sometimes you just need a good cry, know what we mean? This episode, Hanli and Marissa trade stories on all the times emotions won the day and the only thing they could do was take a moment to let it all out with a good sob sesh... in the shower, on the bed, in the gym, walking down the street. We've all been there. Plus, a shout-out to owning your resting bitch face, and an important ran...
What has climaxing got to do with confidence? A guide to owning your pleasure. Feat. Jingjin Liu, Zazazu 22.03.2021 47:56
There’s a reason why Samantha is the most confident and powerful woman in the Sex & The City gang. She knows exactly what she likes and she’s ain’t shy about going after it, in the bedroom and the boardroom… But what has our sexual pleasure got to do with our confidence? This week, we’re talking to Jingjin Liu – a serial entrepreneur and founder of Zazazu (@zazazu_vip; @zazazuclub), a discreet...
Can I still love you, if I don't respect you? 16.03.2021 41:40
Forget "kill, kiss, marry". Today, we're playing a game "like, love, respect". Marissa and Hanli explore those three words and try to work out what comes first in any relationship – whether it's friends, partners or family. Can you like someone you don't respect? Can you love someone you don't like? Do you need all three? It's tricky. We also chat about...
What does being 'feminine' even mean? feat. Khushi K, Women Unbounded 08.03.2021 42:20
Happy birthday to us! But more importantly... Happy International Women's day! On our one year anniversary, we're talking to Khushi K from Women Unbounded (@women.unbounded) - a brilliant organisation advocating for intersectional feminism - about what "femininity" means to us and how it's shaped our identities as young women in the 21st century.
#freeBritney, Free the Nipple and Free Furniture 28.02.2021 36:49
It's catch up time! This episode, Marissa and Hanli share all the weird and wonderful thoughts that have been on their minds lately. Like, what do dogs dream about? Why does a morning poop make such a great start to the day? We also explore the #freeBritney campaign, child stars and the true cost of fame. Furniture shopping in your 20s. Hot gym guy's skincare routine. Rock hard nips. Pl...
Gen-Z, why y'all hating? Feat. Maddy & Mina 22.02.2021 39:07
Ah kids these days. This episode, Hanli and Marissa address a certain Vice article about how Gen-Z'ers are roasting millennials for their skinny jeans and side-parts. They also invite Maddy and Mina – two token Gen-Z'ers – to ask them what it's like to have your prime youth years taken by a global pandemic, and call out some of the other weird generational differences we've not...
How to Manifest Your Man... and other unhelpful advice by H and M 15.02.2021 34:50
Texty banter. Thirst trapping. Power plays. Intense eye contact. This episode, we're giving you our top tips of how to manifest the perfect man. 0% credibility. 100% winging it. Very mixed success. For real though, we share some of our dating tricks and trade stories about a couple of the more awkward dating fails we've endured in our lives – from a declaration of undying love in McDona...
Vinesh Nagrani: Behind the veneer 09.02.2021 47:55
You might know this week's guest from a little Netflix reality show called Singapore Social. Or maybe you know him better as Vinny Sharp. This episode, we're picking the brains of the one and only Vinesh Nagrani (@vinesh_nagrani). We're going behind the 'Vin-eer' and digging deep into his personal life off-screen, his experiences of 2020, and what he's doing to put hi...
The energy we're bringing into 2021 01.02.2021 36:36
REUNITED and it feels SO good. We're finally recording in the same space and we're kicking off this new season – SEASON THREE Y'ALL – by catching up about everything we've been up to since we wrapped up season two. New Year's. What cocktails we'd be. Enduring stay home notice. Lessons learned from the past year. Goals for the one ahead. And more.
Season Finale: Marissa & Hanli Unplugged 30.12.2020 31:28
What a year, hey? In the true spirit of 2020, this solo episode is completely candid... so expect plenty of weird twists and turns, from our thoughts on period sex and relationship contracts to the social pressures of New Year's Eve and more. It's Marissa and Hanli unplugged. But before we go, a massive thank you to every single one of you who have tuned in to listen to our little baby p...
The rise of Sahursart feat. Sahur Saleim 21.12.2020 45:32
This week, we’re chatting to makeup guru and all-round beautiful human, Sahur Saleim (@sahursart) on the realities of what it took to build her career in the beauty media space (spoiler: loads of sleepless nights), dealing with trolls, and striking the delicate balance between pursuing your dreams and not burning out. She also opens up about the pressures of being one of the few people repping bro...
Would we be friends if we met now? 13.12.2020 24:27
We're back with another solo episode and we're discussing a different kind of breakup – friendships. From cutting out toxic friends that are straight up bad for you, to your childhood homie that you just don't connect with anymore, we ponder what it really means to 'break up' with a friend. How we do figure out which friendships are worth holding onto, and which are okay t...
Let's be breast friends. Feat. Charlene Koh & Margaret Chooi 07.12.2020 48:49
We’ve seen the pink ribbons. We know what mammograms are. We’ve checked our boobs every now and again. But when it comes to ‘the big C’, we never really think about the risks that much. We think, “we’re young… we don’t have to worry about that yet.” But guys, of course we do. This week, we’re focusing on breast cancer awareness. In this episode, we speak to a breast cancer survivor – Charlene Koh...
Best self? Sounds fake, but okay... 01.12.2020 42:21
This solo episode, Marissa and Hanli chat about the immense pressure we're all under to 'be our best selves' and focus on self-improvement all the... damn... time. Marissa gives her take on why the self-help industry's message of relentlessly pursuing self-improvement can sometimes be toxic, and how we need to remember that life isn't all about always working to be the bes...
Never have I ever... Been to a 'play party' Feat. Vonny Lang 23.11.2020 44:48
[MATURE CONTENT WARNING] So last week's topic was personal finance and this week, we're diving into the world of play parties (or 'sex parties'). Get you a girl that can do both, know what we're saying? And if you thought Hanli's conscious party experience was wild, BUCKLE UP because this is another league entirely. We interview Vonny Lang (@vonnylang) – an internatio...
Investing 101 feat. Amanda Ong, StashAway 16.11.2020 50:29
Personal finance = proper adulting. We're meant to earn money, pay off our bills, build our savings and invest, all at the same time... it's a LOT. But rest easy, dear listeners... we're gonna break it down step by step, starting with an intro to investing. We hit up Amanda Ong from StashAway – a digital wealth manager – to teach us the bare basics on how to invest our wealth for ou...
What the hell is a "conscious party"? 02.11.2020 55:35
It's been a hot minute since our last solo catch up, so here's a cheeky little update on what we've been up to. Marissa's working hard to get her life back in order after this dramatic year, and it's storytime with Hanli, as she reveals the weird af experience she had at her first "conscious party", involving ecstatic dance, intense eye contact, cuddle puddles, 9...
We all masturbate, right? feat. Dr Martha Lee 25.10.2020 1:03:09
In this episode, we're talking all about the M word – masturbation. We’re covering how we remember our first climax, the toys we’ve owned and loved, what we’ve learned about our bodies in the process, and how we’ve come to embrace self-lovin’ as an important (and very normal!) part of our lives. And you just KNOW we’re gonna address the taboos and needless shame attached to an act that gives...
I got money! Now what? Feat. Anna Haotanto, The New Savvy 18.10.2020 46:20
We've been thinking about our finances lately and admitted to ourselves that we're total rookies. So we've invited Anna Haotanto, the former CEO of The New Savvy – a financial education platform for women – to school us on all things dollars and cents in the most easy-to-understand way possible. We play a game of Money Mythbusters. Is rent a waste of money? Is our avocado toast stop...
Am I Singaporean enough? Feat. Sharvesh Leatchmanan, Minority Voices 11.10.2020 49:47
Marissa chats to Sharvesh Leatchmanan, the co-founder of Minority Voices (@minorityvoices) – a platform that shares personal stories of racism and prejudice against minorities in Singapore. They chat about why it's so important to understand how race can affect everyone differently – from the beauty standards we're all subjected to, to the sense of 'otherness' it can make someo...
Let's talk therapy. Feat. Natalia Rachel 04.10.2020 34:33
Happy Mental Health Awareness Week everyone! In honour of this extremely important time, this episode is a little different. Hanli sits down for an open and honest conversation with her therapist, Natalia Rachel from Soma Clinic, to give you an inside look at what really goes on in a therapy session. You're gonna get all the deets, like what is 'somatic touch therapy'? Did Hanli hav...
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