Marissa Trew & Hanli Hoefer

Just So We're Clear

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Just So We’re Clear is hosted by two mixed-race, passionately curious women in Singapore – Hanli Hoefer and Marissa Trew. They bring on a series of guests – sex-positivity and mental health advocates, comedians, adventurers, entrepreneurs, chefs and more – to get their takes on different topics that affect everyone. Always candid and relentlessly authentic, Just So We're Clear is a representative voice of young, modern Asian women.

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Marissa Trew & Hanli Hoefer

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Society

Latest episode

Aug 21, 2025

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Episodes

30 and trying 15.08.2022

We're coming in hot . This episode, we spill all about Hanli's 30th butterfly disco party in Bali – from a raw-yet-grounding cacao ceremony, to a sound therapy session that unlocked something within Marissa.  Hanli reveals what she's been working through over the past month (brace yourselves for heartache). We also get knee deep in the work we're still doing for ourselves, from...

Is this what growing up feels like? 03.08.2022

Hanli just turned 30 and it's a pretty big deal. We reflect on how sometimes even a birthday feels like everything is getting shaken up. Some call it Saturn's Return. Some call it just part of growing up. Either way, a lot of reflections are bubbling to the surface, so naturally we wanna talk about it. We talk about whether we believe in 'the one', why self-honesty is harder th...

Did we just have a 'healed girl summer'? 14.07.2022

Surprise! It's us! Sorry for the radio silence, we really didn't mean to ghost you. We were each on a little world tour of our own, bouncing between weddings, catching covid and powering through business trips... and we might have gotten a little carried away. But if there's anything we learned, it's that we MISSED you guys. In this catch-up episode, we share a few little highl...

Be the bigger person? No thanks. 18.05.2022

We know, we know. We were MIA again but listen. We were out collecting life experiences to share and guys, we got a lot. This week, we wanna talk about when it's okay to be the bigger bitch. When we can let ourselves be petty. When we see the high road and think, 'nah, too uphill for me'. We've ALL been there... so let's talk about it. We cover why sometimes we need to lea...

I survived an eating disorder. 10.04.2022

**Trigger warning: eating disorders.** For the first time, Marissa tells the story of her eating disorder, from its troubling beginnings 11 years ago to the present day.  In this timeline of events, Marissa shares the moment she realised she was in crisis, hitting rock bottom (multiple times), what was truly going through her mind, the challenge of getting help, and the rollercoaster that has been...

Tis the season to take your power back 28.03.2022

Marissa and Hanli reunite after a couple weeks apart with plenty of stories to tell. Marissa's taking her power back by buying an overpriced egg t-shirt. Hanli explains what it means to truly become her own boss. We both reflect on what we might miss about the pandemic, what odd heirlooms we want to pass down to our future spawn and what the opposite of generational trauma is. And guys, did w...

Do you really wanna be 'that girl'? 13.03.2022

Happy birthday to us! We're two years old... and we'd like to think we're just a lil bit wiser. On the theme of International Women's Day, we're figuring out what being 'that girl' means to us. You know the type. Health. Career. Social life. Finances. The whole package. The girl who has it all. But is aspiring to be her actually THAT healthy or is it even low-key...

Me then and now: the self-comparison trap 01.03.2022

Is anyone else's energy just completely tapped lately? The world feels like it's burning and let's be real – it feels like we can't do much other than sit and watch. This episode, Hanli and Marissa chat about how in the wake of an international crisis, we're a lot more connected to one another than we think. Plus we're talking about the 'comparison trap' bet...

If dating is a sport, why am I so unfit? feat. Caitlin Trew 13.02.2022

Happy V-Day! On this week's exclusive episode, Marissa and her very own sister, Caitlin Trew, talk all things online dating – from Hinge and Bumble to the notorious Tinder. They cover how to build a dating profile with the perfect ratio of thirst trap:wife material, and the weird, wonderful and downright awkward encounters they've had, both online and offline. Buckle up guys, this one’s...

Family, grief and leaving space for the unknown 10.01.2022

Happy new year guys! We know, we know. It's been a long time but thank you for being patient with us. So much has happened and we just needed a moment to live it, process it, reflect on it... you know the drill. This episode, we're going straight in. Marissa shares her struggles with grief over the recent loss of her grandmother and losing the battle to that toxic little voice inside of...

Overnight pads, relationship advice, and leaning into chaos 23.11.2021

We've realised that this podcast is basically our audio journal, so get ready for another diary entry. Marissa reflects on turning the big 3-0 and the mantras she's created for the next decade. Hanli addresses the indignity of overnight pads and invents a way to make it a more... 'enriching' experience. And, we put our 'JSWC big sister' pants on for one of our beloved...

Always wear a pinch of 'look at me now' 08.11.2021

Did you miss us? We missed you and boy do we have so much stuff to catch up on. Marissa talks about how a concussion ironically knocked some sense into her. Hanli shares how travelling with her parents turned her into her teenage self. Plus, we cover body appreciation (and shaming), finding the audacity to wear that daring outfit we know you have hanging in your closet... and one of life's bi...

Don't tell me how to dress feat. Cindy Sirinya Bishop 25.10.2021

We know we missed last week's episode but trust us when we say we're about to make it up to you BIG time. This week, Hanli has an exclusive interview with her Supermodel Me ( @supermodelme ) costar, the one and only, Cindy Sirinya Bishop ( @cindysirinya ). Beyond the show, Cindy is also a model, actress, and all round stellar human being.  In this conversation, we get to know the queen b...

What's your most 'toxic' trait? 10.10.2021

In this post-nap Sunday chat, Marissa and Hanli let their minds roam free – from pondering the origin of their surnames to trying to work out what everyone's most 'toxic' trait is. Hanli also explores her German roots before embarking on a trip to the fatherland. Marissa processes her thoughts and feelings about a recent incident (listen to: Dear Diary, Last Week Sucked for context)...

Giving voice to the unheard feat. Ling Anne Hsieh, Project Green Ribbon 04.10.2021

This episode, we speak to the deeply inspiring mind behind Project Green Ribbon ( @projectgreenribbonsg ), Ling Anne Hsieh. Project Green Ribbon is a Singaporean non-profit organisation that focuses on mental health and eradicating mental health stigma – . In this conversation, Ling shares her life story and how that drove her to build the mental health resources she wishes were available during h...

Dear diary, last week sucked. 28.09.2021

Sorry this episode is late guys, but we'll be honest. Last week straight up sucked, so we took an extra minute over the weekend to just deal. Why did it suck? Well we're glad you asked. Consider this episode a little audio journal into the inner workings of each our lives. Hanli opens up about her anxieties of dealing with the rocky side of LDRs, like what happens when you have a fight....

Ever wanted to just run away and start a new life in Mexico? Feat. Prashant Ashoka 20.09.2021

You know the story... life gets heavy, you yearn for a change, so you pick up your whole life, move across the world and start all over again. At least that's what we tell ourselves we'll do... but let's be real, most of us never end up actually going through with it. Well, this guy did. This week, we speak to Prashant Ashoka ( @prashant.ashoka ) – a Singaporean photographer and wri...

Why are you wasting your money on... 13.09.2021

On this week's solo episode, Hanli and Marissa talk about those weird little money saving habits our parents instilled in us... you know the ones. "There's food at home." "Don't buy it, make it yourself." "Take the bus!" We go through which of their frugal methods worked, and which ones backfired. What we splurge on now we've earned a little cashis...

Owning your own voice feat. Joshua Simon 05.09.2021

You might recognise this episode's guest from the sound of his beautiful voice on the radio, through his incredible music or as one of the hosts of Singapore's LGBTQ+ podcast, The SG Boys (@thesgboys) – he is the one and only Joshua Simon (@joshuasimonxl). This conversation gets deep as we explore our deepest darkest childhood fears and what we think they mean to us as adults, trying to...

Have you met my alter ego? 30.08.2021

We're back baby – season four! Did you miss us? It's been a hot minute since we've spoken last and we're just gonna dive straight in. We've got a hot new look, fresh music and this episode, we're introducing you to our alter egos and the many sides of us that only certain people get to see. Marissa's drunken self toes the line between cheeky and arrogant, while H...

Season Finale: Twerking, Onions and Adam Driver 08.06.2021

Can you believe it guys? The end of SEASON 3 of this cute little podcast. We'll be back in a couple of months with SO much more up our sleeves that we can't wait to share. But until then, we're signing off with this little solo episode where we get up to our usual nonsense. We're talking LDR reunions (Hanli's man is finally in town), cutting onions and emotional breakdowns...

What on earth is my body saying? feat. Maya Kale, Moom Health 01.06.2021

Lets be real ... How many of us buy different vitamins and supplements off iHerb that we eventually forget to take? Put your hand up if you can't even remember what each pill is for. Do we even really know what that long list of ingredients are actually doing to our body? This week, we speak to Maya Kale ( @mayzkale ), co-founder of Moom Health ( @moomhealth ), about how we can make wellness...

How to heal after heartbreak feat. Nixalina Watson 25.05.2021

Full disclosure: we each drank a biiiiig glass of wine while we recorded this one. We're talking heartbreak. The emotional agony. The physical pain. The brutal recovery process. Let our stories be your survival guide, because we KNOW how much it hurts. Along with our special guest, Nixalina Watson of Sex & The Singapore City, we're spilling the deets about the biggest heartbreaks we&...

What's the difference between being lonely and being alone? 17.05.2021

This weird and wonderful episode, we talk about ALL sorts of things on our mind. Hanli calls out her trolls on the internet. We ponder our accents... do we have to SOUND Singaporean to BE Singaporean? And, Marissa points out the difference between being alone and feeling lonely, by sharing what she's been going through and what she's learned along the way.  In light of all the new social...

Can sound really save us? feat. Christina Michele Rios, ceremonialist 03.05.2021

Gong baths, crystal bowls, sound meditation. Maybe you've heard of it, maybe you've tried it... but what exactly is it and how does it work? This week, Hanli interviews Christina Michele Rios (@christinamrios), an intuitive ceremonialist that's helping bring these ancient rituals back into our modern world. Born with intuitive gifts, Christina left the comfort of her corporate job t...

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