Into The Mud Podcast
Into The Mud Podcast
Into the Mud Podcast delves into the messy and uncertain junctures of life, exploring the transitional spaces where growth and self-discovery occur. Inspired by the wisdom of “no mud, no lotus,” this show fearlessly tackles the mayhem of growth. While others only celebrate the "wins", we want to celebrate your mud! Join us (Drew King and Alex Kumin!) every week as we dive deep into topics like major life transitions, navigating grief, parenting, taking the scary step into the unknown, and much more. Come get muddy with us! Follow along at @IntoTheMudPodcast on all platforms! For the visual ve...
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Jul 2, 2026
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Ep. 86: The Fabulous and Chaotic Life of Dog Influencing with @LavenderAndLatte 02.07.2026 36:19
What happens when your pets accidentally become internet celebrities? This week, we're joined by Kaylin Bergeson and her famous French Bulldogs, Lavender and Latte, to talk about the surprising reality of life as a dog influencer. From negotiating brand deals and writing children's books to navigating internet fame, ethical breeding, creator burnout, and whether influencers have a respon...
Ep. 85: Embracing Kink and Fetish with David Lauterstein 25.06.2026 45:42
What if the parts of yourself you've been taught to hide became the very things that changed your life? This week, we're joined by David Lauterstein, CEO and co-founder of Nasty Pig, who opens up about letting go of shame, embracing kink and fetish as a core part of his identity, and building one of the world's most iconic queer fashion brands alongside his husband and co-founder, F...
Ep. 84: The Art of Giving (and Ignoring) Advice with Jenny Hagel 15.06.2026 50:58
Emmy-winning comedy writer Jenny Hagel joins Into the Mud to talk about her new book, Advice No One Asked For , and the strange art of giving advice when nobody wants it. A writer for Late Night with Seth Meyers, Jenny tackles a plethora of muddy topics and imparts some great advice that we never even asked for: from rejection in comedy writing and perfectionism to grief, aging, procrastination, s...
Ep. 83: Therapist Breakup & Learning to Trust Yourself with Liz Glazer 04.06.2026 51:30
Liz Glazer spent years doing everything right: law school, a philosophy degree, a tenured law professorship, and a stable career path. Then she discovered stand-up comedy and began questioning whether success and fulfillment were actually the same thing. In this episode, Liz shares how therapy, sobriety, recovery programs, and nearly two decades of self-reflection helped her learn to trust her own...
Ep. 82: Getting Older Is Actually the Best Part with Emil Cohen 22.05.2026 45:24
DJ, photographer, and Mother Disco co-creator Emil Cohen joins Into the Mud for a conversation about aging, queer joy, disco culture, chosen family, and why getting older might actually be the best part. From body image, therapy, nightlife, and nostalgia to queer history, community building, parenting, and the pressure to stay young, this episode explores what it means to grow older as a queer per...
Ep. 81: The Superpower of Feeling Alien with Project Hail Mary's James Ortiz 09.05.2026 54:49
James Ortiz, the actor and puppeteer behind Rocky in Project Hail Mary alongside Ryan Gosling, joins Into the Mud for a conversation about identity, creativity, and what it means to feel “alien” in your own life. From queer identity and imposter syndrome to artistry, puppetry, belonging, and the pressure to fit into society’s expectations, James opens up about embracing the parts of himself that o...
Ep. 80: The Exhaustion of 'Taking the High Road' with Mykal Kilgore 30.04.2026 50:59
Emmy-nominated artist Mykal Kilgore joins Into the Mud for a raw, unfiltered conversation about the emotional toll of always taking the high road. From growing up in a strict religious environment to navigating Broadway, the music industry, and public scrutiny, Mykal unpacks the pressure to be exceptional, likable, and silent in the face of disrespect. This episode dives into identity, power dynam...
Ep. 79: Addicted to Escapism with Ren McAslan 17.04.2026 1:04:29
What does it actually mean to be addicted to escapism? Writer and Emmy-nominated storyteller Ren McAslan breaks down the nine types of escapism, from work and relationships to media, sex, and substance use, and how constant distraction is reshaping our ability to sit with ourselves. This episode explores trauma, shame, addiction, and the uncomfortable truth that the things we use to cope might be...
Ep. 78: When 'Blind Faith' Becomes Uncertainty 09.04.2026 51:16
What if certainty or uncertainty isn’t a strength… but a trap? On this week's episode, comedian AJ Marroquin joins Drew and Alex to unpack growing up as a Jehovah’s Witness, walking away from blind faith, and how that early conditioning shaped his identity, relationships, and career working inside dating apps. From door-to-door evangelizing to decoding modern dating behavior, this episode exp...
Ep. 77: The Price of "Transactional Intimacy" with Isaac Oliver 02.04.2026 48:27
What if intimacy isn’t one-size-fits-all, and never was? What if it doesn’t have to come from love or even from a relationship? And what is the price, literally and figuratively? Award-winning writer, performer, and Intimacy Idiot author Isaac Oliver joins Into the Mud to get honest about “transactional intimacy”… the kind we’re taught to judge, but rarely investigate. From his work on GLOW, The M...
Ep. 76: The Discipline of Gratitude (Even When Life Is Hard) with Jenifer Foote 19.03.2026 49:26
What if gratitude isn’t a feeling… but a discipline you have to practice every single day? Broadway performer turned licensed therapist Jenifer Foote joins Drew and Alex to unpack what gratitude actually looks like in real life. Not the Instagram version, but the messy, intentional practice of staying present when the mind is spiraling and life feels out of control. Together, they explore interrup...
Ep. 75: The Responsibility of Being Political with Your Platform with Marcus Monroe 12.03.2026 46:14
Comedian and viral subway performer Marcus Monroe joins Drew and Alex to unpack the messy question facing many creators today: if you have a platform, do you have a responsibility to use it politically? From navigating backlash online to dressing as controversial characters on the NYC subway, Marcus shares how comedians balance humor, ethics, and audience expectations in a world where everything f...
Ep. 74: F*ck Diet Culture: @GrossyPelosi on Food as a Tool for Joy and Community 05.03.2026 57:49
What if food never had to be about shame, restriction, or diet culture at all? On this week's episode, 2x NYTimes bestselling cookbook author and celebrated food blogger Dan Pelosi ( @grossypelosi ) joins Drew and Alex for a joyful, unfiltered conversation about telling diet culture to f*ck off, setting boundaries with internet haters, and reclaiming cooking and hosting as powerful tools for...
Ep. 73: Sexologist Natassia Miller on Pleasure and the 'Desire Gap' 26.02.2026 44:44
What if intimacy isn’t about getting off, but about getting honest? Sexologist Natassia Miller joins Drew and Alex to unpack the “desire gap,” long-term intimacy, and why erotic energy goes far beyond sex itself. Through candid conversation and practical insight, they explore how intentional connection, curiosity, and emotional presence can transform relationships from the inside out. From communi...
Ep. 72: The Death of the Hobby with the @CraftyLumberjacks 21.02.2026 42:05
Drew and Alex sit down with viral crafting duo the Crafty Lumberjacks to unpack the “death of the hobby” and what happens when passion turns into content. From Broadway tours to national TV appearances, Dennis and Andrew share the joy, burnout, comparison culture, and identity struggles that come with turning creativity into a career. Together, they explore how to reclaim play, reconnect with arti...
Ep. 71: When Home Stops Being Home with Max Chernin 12.02.2026 44:53
Accomplished Broadway actor Max Chernin gets muddy about what happens after you achieve "the dream". From starring in the critically acclaimed national tour of Broadway's Parade to landing back in New York on the unemployment line, Max unpacks the ache of outgrowing old versions of yourself, redefining what home can look like, and granting yourself the grace to change direction with...
Ep. 70: Radical Joy as Resistance and Activism with Mila Jam 29.01.2026 46:24
What if joy is the most radical form of resistance we have? In this deeply moving episode of Into the Mud , Drew and Alex welcome Mila Jam, recording artist, activist, author, and self-described “pretty pop artivist,” for a conversation about choosing joy in a world that often tries to erase it. Mila opens up about growing up Southern Baptist, finding refuge in theatre, and becoming a proud trans...
Ep. 69: Showbiz Whiplash: Success & Sore Winning with Marc Shaiman 26.01.2026 51:24
Marc Shaiman, the legendary composer and lyricist behind Hairspray , Mary Poppins Returns , When Harry Met Sally… , Sister Act , and countless other cultural touchstones, gets deeply muddy about the whiplash of success, the grief that shaped his artistry, and why even a dream career does not protect you from disappointment. From Marie’s Crisis to the AIDS crisis, from Bette Midler to Broadway, thi...
Ep. 68: Turning Grief Into Advocacy with Broadway’s Julie Halston 15.01.2026 48:00
Tony Award winner Julie Halston joins Into the Mud for a deeply moving and hilarious conversation about grief, caregiving, and turning loss into lasting advocacy. From surviving the AIDS crisis and losing her husband to pulmonary fibrosis to founding Broadway Belts and raising millions for research, Julie reflects on how comedy, community, and purpose carried her through life’s darkest chapters. T...
Ep. 67: Glitter, God, and Justice: A Queer Minister on Faith and Spirituality 08.01.2026 57:28
Rev. Micah Bucey, senior minister of Judson Memorial Church, joins Into the Mud for a deeply expansive conversation as Drew and Alex, who do not identify as religious, bring genuine curiosity to the roots of Christianity and spirituality and how they’ve been distorted by MAGA Christianity and white Christian nationalism. Together, they explore how faith has been weaponized in America, how it can a...
Ep. 66: When Drag Muddies the Dating Game with Pixie Aventura 26.12.2025 43:27
Dating is hard enough, but for drag queens, finding love comes with an entirely different set of challenges. In this episode of Into the Mud , Pixie Aventura (aka Cesar Villavicencio) gets honest about what it’s actually like to date as a drag queen. He walks through the six biggest obstacles he’s encountered in relationships, including fetishization, intimidation, internalized homophobia, and the...
Ep. 65: Breakup Tales for the Recently Dumped 11.12.2025 39:17
In this raw and unfiltered episode of Into the Mud , Alex opens up about her fresh two-day-old breakup and the emotional whiplash of grieving a future she thought she had. Drew and Alex break down heartbreak in real time — confusion, somatics, rejection spirals, coping strategies, and the messy, human work of choosing yourself when everything hurts. Bio: Alex is a New York based comedian by way o...
Ep. 64: Ben Abraham Gets Muddy About “Failure” 20.11.2025 45:23
In this deeply honest conversation, singer-songwriter Ben Abraham opens up about the highs and lows of his career — from major-label deals, Grammy-stage moments, and writing with artists like Kesha, to getting dropped, starting over at 40, and redefining what artistic success means. Together, Ben, Drew, and Alex get muddy about the tender work of finding joy again when the industry breaks your hea...
Ep. 63: Rewriting Queer History and Love with Hugh Nini and Neal Treadwell 13.11.2025 51:15
Hugh Nini and Neal Treadwell, authors of acclaimed photography books Loving and Loving II, get muddy about what it means to build visibility when your history was never written. They have spent more than 25 years excavating and reconstructing a queer past the world tried to erase. Through 4000+ intimate photographs of men in love from 1850–1950, they’ve pieced together a lineage that proves queer...
Ep. 62: Robert Horn: The Comedy of Getting Older 23.10.2025 57:05
Tony Award–winning writer Robert Horn (Tootsie, Shucked, Hercules) gets muddy about aging, later-in-life success, and staying funny through rejection. In this candid and hilarious conversation, Robert opens up about his wild journey from an orphanage to Broadway, turning trauma into comedy, navigating fame in the social-media era, and learning to embrace getting older with humor and grace. Equal p...
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