Into The Mud Podcast

When the government pulls Jimmy Kimmel off the air, what does that mean for comedy — and for free speech? In this raw and fiery episode, comedian Jay Jurden ( The Problem with Jon Stewart , The Tonight Show ) joins Drew and Alex to get muddy about censorship, courage, and comedy’s role in calling out power . From Lenny Bruce to late-night, this conversation proves that laughter is still one of the...

Comedian and Emmy-winning writer Josh Gondelman ( Last Week Tonight , Desus & Mero , The Marvelous Mrs. Maisel ) joins Into the Mud to get candid about the messy gap between impressive résumés and follower counts. We dig into how social media has reshaped comedy, the pressure of clout-chasing, and whether quality or quantity really wins in today’s entertainment industry. Plus, Josh shares hila...

Porn star and former Broadway music director Jonah Wheeler (aka @ShowoffJonah) joins Into the Mud for an unfiltered deep dive into sex work, kink, and intimacy. From his career pivot out of theater to the realities of OnlyFans, public sex, radical queer spaces, and even the lessons learned from butthole surgery, Jonah gets real about the liberating power of body acceptance, confidence, shame, and...

Opera singer and voice teacher Matthew Anchel joins Into the Mud to get real about body positivity, plus-size shaming, and queer representation in entertainment. From his time at the Met Opera to competing on Worst Cooks in America , Matthew opens up about navigating diet culture, Ozempic, fatphobia, and dating—all with humor, honesty, and heart. Bio: Bass Matthew Anchel , hailed as “a voice to wa...

Actor and musician Lisa Helmi Johanson gets deeply vulnerable about her harrowing experience with postpartum PTSD following a traumatic 68-hour labor and emergency C-section. In this cathartic, tender, and surprisingly funny conversation, Lisa opens up about brainspotting therapy, intrusive thoughts, identity loss, and what it means to slowly piece yourself back together while parenting in a world...

This week, Into the Mud goes gloriously off the rails with stand-up comedian Zahid Dewji. What starts as a conversation about outgrowing people and places quickly spirals into an unexpectedly hilarious and heartfelt deep-dive into spiritual growth, vibrational energy, comedy burnout, porn bans in Texas, regrets, and the cosmic chaos of being human. Equal parts wild and wise, this episode is a chao...

What does it really mean to “do the work”? In this wildly thoughtful and hilarious conversation, producer and social justice advocate Darren Biggart unpacks his viral essay on the quiet, lifelong practice of disrupting internalized systems of power. Together, we explore the murky territory between growth and guilt, comfort and courage, and being seen as “good” versus actually doing good. Bio: Darr...

Comedian Elle Orlando joins Into the Mud for a refreshingly honest and beautiful conversation about the kind of loneliness that lingers—even when you're surrounded by people. From the isolating pursuit of stand-up to the heartbreak of lost friendships and the double-edged sword of social media, Elle unpacks what it means to feel alone in a hyperconnected world. Together, Alex, Drew and Elle e...

In Part 2 of this special two-part episode, Maui-based therapist and career coach Natalie Diaz returns—this time to coach the hosts. After diving into her own journey from corporate hustle to purposeful living in Part 1, Natalie guides Drew and Alex through some of their own muddy challenges. With Alex exploring time management and Drew confronting perfectionism, this real-time coaching session of...

Licensed therapist and career coach Natalie Diaz joins Into the Mud to share her bold leap from New York’s relentless corporate grind to building a slower, more intentional life and practice in Maui. In this first half of a two-part conversation, Natalie opens up about healing her nervous system, unlearning hustle culture, and creating a career that prioritizes people over profits. Stay tuned for...

Alex Wong is a wildly successful performer and an unapologetic optimist—and this week, the hosts try to figure out how he does it. While Into the Mud usually dives headfirst into life’s messes, Alex W. brings a calm, clear-eyed approach that feels like an antidote to the mud. Alex K. and Drew tend to fall into the familiar trap of “compare = despair,” but this week, Alex W. gently flips the script...

Pride means something different to everyone—and sometimes, figuring out what it means to you can feel a little messy. On this week’s episode, Aidan Wharton gets muddy about what Pride really means—outside of corporate floats, circuit parties, and Instagram carousels. As a Broadway actor, writer, and founder of the popular Substack "Gay Buffet," Aidan brings humor and heart to a thoughtfu...

When it comes to fertility, the fine print is often emotional, financial, and painfully unclear. This week on Into the Mud intersectional health educator, Justine Ang Fonte, gets muddy about the murky world of egg freezing—where empowerment meets confusion, hope meets debt, and no one tells you the full story. In this honest and detailed conversation, Justine breaks down her emotionally and financ...

In this special crossover episode between Into the Mud and Well… Adjusting , anxiety takes center stage—and everyone brings their own flavor. Robin's spiraling about parenting. Steph’s contemplating the apocalypse. Drew’s afraid of gay men (yes, really). And Alex feels like she's waiting on biopsy results. From identity crises to career meltdowns, parenting panic to the soul-crushing anx...

Happy Pride! To kick off their Pride Month celebration, Into the Mud sits down with Hitesh Tolani and Matt Atkins from the viral social movement @GaysOfNationalParks — a community where queer folks are finding friendship, healing, and love in nature. From loneliness and late bloomers to sweaty mountaintop revelations, this convo is everything listeners didn’t know they needed. Grab your boots, dit...

Don’t worry—we didn’t ghost you. We're just stuck in a chaotic love triangle with corrupted audio files and a cursed laptop. So this week, instead of our usual muddy deep dive, you’re getting a quick little check-in from the swamp. Updates, teasers, a dash of chaos, and a gentle plea to show us some love on socials while we get our mud together. Stay strong, #MuddyBuddies! Bio: Alex is a New...

Broadway star, Olivier Award winner and Drama Desk nominee Lesli Margherita joins Into the Mud for a hilarious and heartfelt conversation about rejection—and how she’s turned it into a superpower. With her signature wit and unfiltered honesty, Lesli shares how comedy has helped her survive (and thrive) in one of the most brutal industries out there. It’s a masterclass in resilience, delivered with...

Broadway actor, composer and playwright Douglas Lyons joins Drew and Alex for a conversation about breaking out of boxes—both the ones that life puts us in and the ones we create for ourselves. From actor to writer to full creative force, Douglas shares how career expansion starts with reclaiming autonomy, building your own voice, and refusing to wait for permission. If you've ever felt stuck...

Why do we glorify alcohol but demonize mushrooms? This week, Drew and Alex get muddy about psychedelics—sharing the highs, the lows, and the life-changing lessons learned from their groovy trips. From laughing fits to ego deaths, they explore how psilocybin has helped them heal, and why it’s time we rethink the stigma around this powerful, natural medicine. What if Nixon hadn’t shut it all down wi...

What happens when your hairline fades but your confidence levels rise? This week, Drew and Alex sit down with viral sensation and bald baddy Ben Russell Lynch to get muddy about vanity, aging, and self-image in a world obsessed with youth. Ben opens up about his journey with alopecia, the creation of his online persona, and how embracing his baldness turned into a movement. From pop songs to punch...

It’s getting steamy and political this week when Drew and Alex sit down with Rebecca Fasman, curator at the Kinsey Institute, to talk about sex, sexuality, and the decrepit state of sexual education in America. From the ongoing attacks on Planned Parenthood to the dismantling of the Department of Education, it’s a bleak time for reproductive rights and comprehensive sex ed—and the hosts aren'...

This week, Drew and Alex get messy with a topic stirring up muddy waters all across the art world: AI-generated art. Their guest, Turkish-American artist Sarp Kerem Yavuz, helps unpack the fear, fascination, and controversy surrounding this new medium. The hosts come in skeptical—concerned about creativity, ethics, and artistic integrity—but Sarp brings some wildly compelling analogies that start...

There’s a moment in every go-getter’s life when the spark dims, the path forward feels foggy, and everything feels stale. As Steven Pressfield says, “Resistance will tell you anything to keep you from doing your work. It will perjure, fabricate… it will assume any form.” But, try not to give in! This week on Into the Mud , Alex sits in the thick of her career plateau—frustrated, questioning, but s...

The heels are high and the stakes are higher. On this week of Into the Mud , we're joined by drag queen and activist Cacophony Daniels (also known as Broadway performer, Courter Simmons) to talk about drag bans, rising anti-LGBTQ legislation, and the fight to stay visible and vocal in a shifting political climate. From challenging toxic masculinity to pushing back against the new wave of Trum...

What happens when you reach the top of the corporate ladder, only to realize it’s leaning against the wrong wall? Mike Lemire — Drew’s childhood friend who crushed it in the corporate tech world — realized that success at the top wasn’t all it was cracked up to be. Mike walked away from the corporate hustle at the height of his career and now runs his own consulting firm, Harmonic Leadership , hop...