Phil Gamache
Humans of Martech
Future-proofing the humans behind the tech. Follow Phil Gamache and Darrell Alfonso on their mission to help future-proof the humans behind the tech and have successful careers in the constantly expanding universe of martech.
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Phil Gamache
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
152: Sarah Krasnik Bedell: A data eng turned marketer on embedded marketing analysts and batch vs webhook pipelines 14.01.2025 58:36
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Sarah Krasnik Bedell, Director, Growth Marketing at Prefect. Summary : What happens when a data engineer with an obsession for truth-testing crashes into marketing's sacred cows? Sarah's journey from code to campaigns unfolds like a detective story, where she picks apart marketing myths and rebuilds them with an engineer's precisi...
151: Austin Hay: An operator’s guide to AI agents, composability, building in concert and self-designing APIs 07.01.2025 1:10:59
What’s up everyone, welcome to our first episode of 2025 – today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Austin Hay, Co-Founder and Co-CEO at Clarify and Martech Teacher at Reforge. Summary : Something extraordinary is brewing in the world of martech. In the near future, Austin thinks AI agents will turn into an omniscient digital butler, anticipating your needs with uncanny precision while vani...
150: Welcoming Darrell Alfonso as a co-host, celebrating baby milestones and the top 2 predictions for martech by 2030 17.12.2024 34:40
What’s up everyone, today is our last episode of the year and if you paid attention to the intro, I’m excited to officially welcome Darrell Alfonso as the newest co-host of the podcast! Summary : The Humans of Martech enters an exciting new chapter with Darrell Alfonso joining as co-host, bringing fresh energy and insights to the show. As a long-time listener and new dad, Darrell offers relatable...
149: Kacie Jenkins: Sendoso’s SVP of Marketing on capturing the true impact of marketing and avoiding reductive metrics 10.12.2024 1:09:28
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Kacie Jenkins, SVP Marketing at Sendoso. Summary : Marketing isn’t about cramming creativity into a spreadsheet, and Kacie’s journey proves it. She took on last-touch attribution, broke free from narrow metrics, and built a system that told the whole story, one where sales and marketing actually worked together. It wasn’t flashy;...
148: Stephen Stouffer: Understanding AI's Role in Customer Journeys and Messaging 03.12.2024 50:50
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Stephen Stouffer, Director of Automation Solutions at Tray.ai and the first ever returning guest. We had Stephen on earlier in the year in episode 112 where we unpacked the practical wonders of combining AI tools with iPaaS solutions. Summary : AI can transform your marketing without overwhelming you. Start with one use case. Wat...
147: Nataly Kelly: Making global feel local through the power of marketing localization 26.11.2024 1:00:37
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Nataly Kelly, CMO at Zappi. Summary : Global expansion is a wild process that connects brands to the unique vibe of each market, it’s not just creating a website or translating content. Every market brings its own needs, from how audiences navigate sites to what resonates visually and emotionally. Moving into international territo...
146: Jim Williams: The strategic role of marketing ops in annual planning 19.11.2024 55:14
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Jim Williams, CMO at Uptempo. Summary : Forget version control spreadsheets and stale budgets, Jim’s take on marketing planning is about putting purpose behind every dollar. Instead of throwing darts at a board, focus on creating a blueprint that connects goals to actual business impact. For him, goals shouldn’t be handed down fro...
145: Barbara Galiza: The inconvenient truths of attribution no one wants to admit 12.11.2024 57:29
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Barbara Galiza, Growth and Marketing Analytics Consultant. Summary : Attribution is a bit like navigating Amsterdam’s canals: mesmerizing but full of hidden turns that don’t always make sense. You don’t need to chart every twist—just focus on finding the direction that moves you forward. Instead of obsessing over every click, use...
144: Steven Aldrich: Identify the martech you really need with a bottom-up analysis 05.11.2024 1:05:51
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Steven Aldrich, Co-CEO and Co-Founder at Ragnarok NYC. Summary: Like the aftermath of Ragnarök according to Norse mythology, the martech world is emerging stronger, more focused, and ripe with potential. Rather than being overwhelmed by the chaos, marketers should use this time to rethink how to evaluate technology choices through...
143: Danny Lambert: A guide to data transformation and building a warehouse-first martech stack 29.10.2024 1:03:05
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Danny Lambert, Director of Marketing Operations at dbt Labs. Summary : Marketers often feel like they're battling a dragon when it comes to integrating data. We’re overwhelmed by technical jargon, stuck with outdated methods, and facing roadblocks from data teams. Danny walks us through his journey of cautiously entering the data...
142: Lourenço Mello: Snowflake's Product Marketing Lead on the marketing data stack of the future 22.10.2024 55:48
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Lourenço Mello, Product Marketing Lead at Snowflake. Summary: Lourenço drops us straight into the gravity well of martech, where Snowflake’s latest report pulls in the tools that really matter, letting the fluff float away. It’s all about data gravity, bringing the applications to the data instead of wasting energy shuttling data...
141: Rutger Katz: Cutting through the fluff of Lean methodology and recognizing when process gets in the way of efficiency 15.10.2024 1:03:19
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Rutger Katz, GTM Operations Consultant. Summary: Rutger helps us cut through the fluff of Lean methodology in marketing and how to spot when process gets in the way of efficiency. His advice is to cut out the waste—whether in your process, your tech stack, or how you measure success. Focus on what drives conversions, keep your sys...
140: Jared DeLuca: Appcues’ Director of Ops on integrating demo bookings within your product and using AI to uncover incremental lifts from drip campaigns 08.10.2024 58:02
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Jared DeLuca, Director of Operations at Appcues. Summary: Jared takes us inside the mad but amazing world of martech at Appcues – the top product adoption SaaS on the planet. We cover his transition from demand gen to ops, how he’s integrated demo bookings within the product using RevenueHero, the difference between ops and revops...
139: Ron Jacobson: Why multi-touch attribution excels in credit distribution but fails in causality 01.10.2024 54:20
What’s up everyone, today I have the pleasure of sitting down with Ron Jacobson, Co-founder and CEO of Rockerbox Summary : Multi-touch attribution doesn’t tell you what really caused a conversion or revenue, it’s a credit distribution system. It’s still a useful guidepost in understanding where your efforts are making an impact. Incrementality testing, on the other hand, digs deeper—helping you pi...
138: Erin Foxworthy: Snowflake’s Industry Lead on the future of data warehousing, from APIs to data sharing and a unified data layer 24.09.2024 52:02
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Erin Foxworthy, Industry Lead, Advertisers & Agencies at Snowflake. Summary: In this episode, Erin takes us on a ride through the merging worlds of martech, adtech, AI, and privacy, giving a bold glimpse into what’s next for customer data. We cover how you can use 1st party data for seed predictions, why it’s time you move on...
137: Liam Moroney: Rethinking measurement by balancing pipeline, brand, and long-term value in a nonlinear world 17.09.2024 1:02:03
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Liam Moroney, Co-Founder of Storybook Marketing. Summary: Liam handed us warm tea and one of his hand-knitted beanies as we explored how marketing goes beyond just hitting pipeline numbers. It’s about building trust, shaping perceptions, and ensuring your brand is top-of-mind when it matters. Balancing short-term wins with long-t...
136: Benoit Leggieri: Livestorm’s Head of Growth on crafting revenue driving workflows with Customer.io 10.09.2024 48:57
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Benoit Leggieri, Head of Growth at Livestorm. Summary: Benoit offers a behind-the-scenes look at how Livestorm’s martech stack drives growth and personalization. At its heart is Customer.io, seamlessly integrated with tools like Amplitude, Segment, and Mutiny, creating a powerful system that delivers tailored experiences while sc...
135: Pranav Piyush: Why multi-touch attribution is broken and what you should do instead 03.09.2024 53:38
What’s up everyone, today I have the pleasure of sitting down with Pranav Piyush, Co-Founder and CEO at Paramark. Summary : Pranav guides us out of the labyrinth of multi-touch attribution under the clear sky of incrementality and causality, urging marketers to focus on whether their efforts genuinely drive sales that wouldn’t happen otherwise. Early-stage startups can benefit by prioritizing simp...
134: Jacqueline Freedman: Former leader at Grammarly and WeWork on how to become a trusted Martech advisor 27.08.2024 57:15
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Jacqueline Freedman, CEO and Founder at Monarch Advisory Partners. Summary : Jacqueline straps on her jetpack and invites us to soar through the martech skies, teaching us how to navigate the journey of becoming an independent martech advisor. From hands-on execution tasks strategy and advisory projects and assembling a futuristic...
133: Simon Heaton: Buffer’s Director of Growth Marketing on agile sprints, holdout testing and why a CRM or GA4 isn't in their tech stack 20.08.2024 1:04:03
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Simon Heaton, Director of Growth Marketing at Buffer. Summary : Simon helps us explore Buffer's martech journey, highlighting their shift from traditional tools to a product-led approach driven by data and server-side analytics. We unpack their use of Customer.io for automation and hold out testing, Redash for data insights, and t...
132: Ashleigh Johnson: Tales of a Marketing Technologist from Microsoft 13.08.2024 45:38
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Ashleigh Johnson, Marketing Technologist at Microsoft. Summary : Ashleigh gives us a glimpse into the enterprise world of martech, and it might not be what you’re expecting. She emphasizes embracing the unexpected by seeking diverse roles and rotational programs. Building a personal network within large organizations like Microsof...
131: Siobhan Solberg: A guide to ethical marketing with data minimization and privacy strategies 06.08.2024 53:57
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Siobhan Solberg, data privacy consultant and advisor. Summary : Siobhan takes on a behind-the-scenes look at the hidden mechanics of data privacy, ethical marketing practices, and effective data management. Marketers often overlook the importance of data privacy, but the increase in data breaches shows that people do care about th...
130: Sam Oh: Ahref’s VP of Marketing on how content marketers can stay relevant with AI 30.07.2024 56:35
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Sam Oh, VP of Marketing at Ahrefs. Summary : Sam takes us on a masterclass covering SEO fundamentals, evolving search behaviors, AI in content marketing, refreshing attribution thoughts and work-life balance strategies. He advises sticking to proven SEO fundamentals and understanding search intent to meet audience needs. As search...
129: Re: Why Martech is Actually for Engineers 23.07.2024 52:25
What’s up folks. We’ve got a fun episode today. If you’re a regular listener, you’ve heard me mention an article that’s been living rent free in my head for a while now. Casey Winters, the former CPO at Eventbrite and an Instructor at Reforge, wrote an article titled “The Problems With Martech, and Why Martech is Actually for Engineers”. I’ve asked a lot of recent guests what their thoughts were o...
128: Vish Gupta: Why simplification should come before automation if you want to avoid a Frankenstack 16.07.2024 51:15
What’s up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Vish Gupta, Marketing Operations Manager at Databricks. Summary : This episode with Vish is jam packed with advice for marketers making their way through the martech galaxy. We touch on the pitfalls of Frankenstein stacks and the perks of self-service martech. Vish explains why martech isn't just for engineers and highlights the e...
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