Phil Gamache
Humans of Martech
Future-proofing the humans behind the tech. Follow Phil Gamache and Darrell Alfonso on their mission to help future-proof the humans behind the tech and have successful careers in the constantly expanding universe of martech.
Be sure to visit the podcast's website and support the creator: www.humansofmartech.com
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Phil Gamache
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Nov 3, 2026
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Episodes
244: How Anthropic thinks about build vs buy in the AI era, with Alexey Komissarouk 03.11.2026 55:13
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Alexey Komissarouk, Member of the Technical Staff at Anthropic. (00:00) - Intro (01:22) - In This Episode (04:44) - How Engineers Actually End Up Specializing in Martech (08:47) - Security Approval Is the Real Bottleneck at Anthropic (14:34) - Why Anthropic Builds Its Own CDP Instead of Buying One (16:50) - How the Vibe-Code Era I...
243: Is Chief of Staff the next big career move for marketing ops? with Lauren Stein 27.10.2026 1:01:38
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Lauren Stein, former Chief of Staff at GrowthLoop. Summary: Lauren Stein spent four years living the chief of staff job at GrowthLoop before most companies had a real name for it, and now that title is showing up explicitly in job postings recruiting straight out of marketing ops. This episode covers the scaffolding analogy for wh...
242: It's the end of Lifecycle Marketing as we know it and here's what's next, with Anna Gelfand 20.10.2026 1:05:55
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Anna Gelfand, Director and Head of Lifecycle & Retention Marketing at Miro. (00:00) - Intro (01:14) - In This episode (04:29) - Why Lifecycle Marketing As We Know It Has No Future (08:53) - How To Codify The Qualitative Side Of Lifecycle Marketing (14:52) - Testing Email Campaigns On Digital Twins Of Your Customers (25:05) - S...
241: Rebuilding how marketing works around AI and avoiding random acts of AI, with author Melissa M. Reeves 13.10.2026 1:02:51
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Melissa M. Reeve, author of Hyperadaptive: Rewiring to Become an AI-Native Organization and co-founder of the Agile Marketing Alliance. (00:00) - Intro (01:09) - In This Episode (04:33) - What Marketing Looks Like If AI Had Always Existed (08:47) - Why AI Is Easy to Use but Not Easy to Learn (15:34) - Why Marketing Ops Sits Where...
240: The Fall of lead scoring and MQLs and the rise of Agent Qualified Leads, with Gary Amaral 06.10.2026 1:05:30
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Gary Amaral, marketing leader at Docket. (00:00) - Intro (01:15) - In This Episode (04:35) - What Lead Scoring Was Really Hired to Do (12:13) - Why Lead Scoring Models Turn Into Black Boxes (16:04) - What Is an Agent Qualified Lead (24:02) - How Agentic Qualification Goes Beyond AI Scoring (27:48) - What AI Agents Do That Drift St...
239: Personalization is a creativity problem not a data problem, with Christina Garnett 29.09.2026 1:03:13
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Christina Garnett, Fractional Chief Customer and Communications Officer at Neuemotion. (00:00) - audio-Christina (01:19) - In This Episode (05:37) - Why Your Tech Stack Cannot Fix Siloed Customer Teams (11:10) - Why Getting the Name Right No Longer Counts as Personalization (18:08) - Why A/B Testing Programs Ignore Qualitative Cus...
238: The System to make your prospects the hero before they buy, with Aditya Vempaty 22.09.2026 58:07
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Aditya Vempaty, VP of Marketing at Coram AI. (00:00) - Intro (01:07) - In This Episode (05:05) - Why Expansion Revenue Beats New Logos When Channels Are Saturated (06:07) - Why Customer Empathy Means Knowing What Gets Your Buyer Promoted (12:38) - How to Tell If Your Case Study Makes the Customer the Hero (18:16) - Why Single Chan...
237: Designing the utopian marketing leadership role, with Mary Keough 15.09.2026 57:37
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Mary Keough, Fractional Demand Gen for B2B at DemandLoops. (00:00) - Intro (01:12) - In This Episode (04:30) - How to Write LinkedIn Posts That Hit a Nerve Without AI (06:39) - How to Run an Honest Goal Setting Conversation With Your Founder (14:46) - Why Marketing Always Catches the Scope Creep at Startups (18:39) - How New Marke...
236: What AI replaces in data work and when not to reach for it, with Julie Beynon 08.09.2026 55:50
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Julie Beynon, Head of Analytics at Augment Code. (00:00) - Intro (01:07) - In This Episode (04:13) - Breaking Into Data Without A Computer Science Background (06:05) - Why AI Made Building Cheap But Maintenance Expensive (09:25) - How To Push Back On AI Projects Without Killing Momentum (12:28) - Building AI Agents That Multiply A...
235: Why consent banners, tags and privacy policies never match, with Stéphane Hamel 01.09.2026 55:46
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Stéphane Hamel, Founder and Product Architect at MANTIS. (00:00) - Intro (01:07) - In This Episode (04:07) - How To Audit Which Trackers Are Firing On Your Website (07:00) - Why Nobody On Your Team Owns The Tags Firing On Your Site (11:22) - Why Your Consent Banner Does Not Match What Your Site Actually Does (16:45) - Does Server...
234: How to run a marketing ops audit and turn it into a roadmap with Kelsie Dube 25.08.2026 1:00:49
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Kelsie Dube, Director of Marketing Operations and Automation at Unanet. (00:00) - Intro (01:09) - In This Episode (05:31) - Why New Marketing Ops Leaders Should Audit Before They Act (10:09) - How to Run a Marketing Ops Audit When You Join a Company (16:04) - How to Balance a Full Audit Against Your Boss's Priorities (19:00) - How...
233: 4 Mindsets that modern marketing leaders need for unpredictable markets, with author Kathleen Schaub 18.08.2026 1:01:11
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Kathleen Schaub, Author, Strategist, and Advisor in Marketing Management and Organizations. We cover: (00:00) - Intro (01:19) - In This Episode (04:45) - Why Marketing Behaves More Like Weather Than a Machine (08:49) - The Four Mindsets Marketing Leaders Need for Complex Markets (14:06) - Why ROI Doesn't Work as a Marketing Measur...
232: How taste can be codified into systems and is no longer a durable skill, and what's next with Sharon Gai 11.08.2026 1:06:21
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Sharon Gai, author, keynote speaker, and educator. We'll cover: (00:00) - Intro (01:21) - In This Episode (05:20) - How AI Moves Marketing Creativity Up the Abstraction Layer (09:08) - Why Taste Is No Longer a Durable Human Skill (15:33) - What Human Work Looks Like After AI Learns Taste (20:41) - How to Codify Taste Into Your AI...
231: Why Lattice careers and communication skills are built for the AI era, with Michele Martin from Ticketmaster 04.08.2026 56:04
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Michele Martin, Senior Director of Global Brand and Integrated Marketing at Ticketmaster. Summary: Most career advice still hands you a ladder and tells you to climb. Michele makes the case for a lattice instead, the crisscross path of sideways and diagonal moves that built her range across banking, retail, a startup, and now Tick...
230: Zero-click marketing broke the measurement layer, so what should ops teams do now, with Amanda Natividad 28.07.2026 1:05:01
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Amanda Natividad, Chief Evangelist at SparkToro and co-author of Zero Click Marketing. We'll cover: (00:00) - Intro (01:14) - In This Episode (06:37) - Why Attribution Breaks Down in a Zero Click World (16:09) - What the Alligator Graph Means for Ops Teams (22:46) - How to Run a Zero Click Launch Week You Can Actually Measure (32:...
229: The Privacy lawsuits coming for every marketing team, with Cara Caruso and Dustin Taylor 21.07.2026 1:06:32
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Cara Caruso, CEO and co-founder of Sentinel Insights, and Dustin Taylor, counsel at Troutman Pepper Locke. We'll cover: (00:00) - Cara-audio (00:53) - In This Episode (04:40) - 1 — Why Your Website Is Running More Tracking Tools Than You Know (08:17) - 2 — How a Plaintiff's Firm Turns Your Website Into a Lawsuit (17:55) - 3 — The...
228: The Dispatch tower (The Dungeon of martech architecture, part 4) 14.07.2026 1:01:14
What’s up folks, welcome to our 4 part series of crawling through the dungeon of martech architecture. You’ve arrived at our final episode, part 4: The Dispatch Tower. We’ll tackle: (00:00) - Intro (00:59) - In This Episode (01:30) - Sponsor: Mammath Growth (02:33) - Sponsor: GrowthLoop (03:58) - FLOOR 4: THE DISPATCH TOWER (04:39) - What Happens When 30 Vendors Turn On AI at the Same Time (21:24)...
227: The Correlation masquerade (The Dungeon of martech architecture, part 3) 07.07.2026 1:04:14
What’s up folks, welcome to our 4 part series of Crawling through the dungeon of martech architecture. You’ve arrived at Part 3: The Correlation Masquerade. We'll cover: (00:00) - Intro (01:16) - In This Episode (01:36) - Sponsor: Knak (02:44) - Sponsor: MoEngage (04:02) - FLOOR 3: THE CORRELATION MASQUERADE (05:08) - Why Agentic AI Optimizes for the Wrong Thing at Scale (11:30) - The Boomerang Ef...
226: The Eye of context (The Dungeon of martech architecture, part 2) 30.06.2026 1:02:52
What’s up folks, welcome to our 4 part series of Crawling through the dungeon of martech architecture. You’ve arrived at Part 2: The Eye of Context. We cover: (00:00) - Intro (00:56) - In This Episode (01:28) - Sponsor GrowthLoop (02:32) - Sponsor: GrowthBench (03:32) - Welcome Back (04:09) - FLOOR 2: THE EYE OF CONTEXT (06:15) - Why AI Produces Believable Nonsense (09:00) - BOSS BATTLE: The Hallu...
225: The Fall of CRM gravity (The Dungeon of martech architecture, part 1) 23.06.2026 1:02:28
What’s up folks, welcome to our 4 part series of Crawling THROUGH THE DUNGEON OF MARTECH ARCHITECTURE You’ve arrived at Part1 : The Fall of CRM Gravity (00:00) - Intro (00:57) - In This Episode (01:31) - Sponsor: MoEngage (02:28) - Sponsor: Knak (04:53) - FLOOR 1: Why the CRM Lost Its Authority (06:09) - Why Every Team Moved Into the CRM (And How It Lost Its Authority) (13:57) - Why Sharing CRM D...
224: How OpenAI’s GTM leader structures teams and spots standout candidates with Keith Jones 16.06.2026 1:02:24
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Keith Jones, Head of GTM Systems at OpenAI. Summary : Keith's GTM systems team at OpenAI got split across 2 orgs, ran into the most wildly practical cost center problem imaginable, and ended up proving exactly why distributed systems teams at high-velocity companies don't work. In this episode, he walks through the full restructur...
223: How Zapier uses a shared brain to manage AI context and skills with Lindsay Rothlisberger 09.06.2026 56:48
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Lindsay Rothlisberger, Director of GTM Innovation at Zapier. (00:00) - Intro (01:23) - In This Episode (02:00) - Sponsor: Knak (03:08) - Sponsor: MoEngage (05:49) - How Zapier's RevOps Team Built Its AI Foundation (19:43) - Why Visibility Has to Come Before Governance in AI Adoption (24:58) - Sponsor: GrowthBench (25:58) - Sponsor...
222: How senior MOps practitioners are navigating the 2026 job search with Ashley Langford 02.06.2026 1:05:14
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Ashley Langford, Marketing Operations and RevOps Leader. Summary : Ashley Langford has every credential the MOps job search advice says you're supposed to have: 2 Marketo Champion designations, a decade of B2B SaaS experience across multiple industries, a strong community presence, and a track record of building functions from scr...
221: You need Minimum Viable Readiness for AI because perfect data doesn't exist with Jason Dobbs 26.05.2026 56:36
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Jason Dobbs, Head of Marketing and GTM Engineering at Kumo AI. (00:00) - Intro (01:24) - In This Episode (01:57) - Sponsor: MoEngage (02:54) - Sponsor: Knak (04:35) - How Undefined Data Definitions Make AI Confidently Wrong (08:18) - Why Context Engineering Replaces Prompt Engineering as the AI Bottleneck (12:59) - The Five Non-Ne...
220: How to build content engineering systems that get cited and scale without slop with Alex Halliday 19.05.2026 1:06:06
What's up everyone, today we have the pleasure of sitting down with Alex Halliday, Founder and CEO at AirOps. (00:00) - Intro (01:19) - In This Episode (01:54) - Sponsor: Attribution App (02:57) - Sponsor: GrowthLoop (04:19) - How AirOps Pivoted to AI Content Engineering (08:23) - The Real Definition of Content Engineering and Why It's Not About Publishing More (13:14) - What a Content Engineer Do...
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