Jonathan Lawless and Jeremy Potter

Housing Insiders

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The housing market is wonky. From policy changes to financial innovations to pilot projects that make housing more plentiful and affordable, there's a ton of "inside baseball" to discuss and take action on. Each episode, hear the latest developments and trends in home building and home financing - from "sticks-and-bricks" to AI - and learn what you can do to improve the housing industry. Hosted by housing market thought leaders Jonathan Lawless and Jeremy Potter, and featuring interviews with disruptive guests across the housing industry. If you want to see everyone well-housed, tune in. Jonat...

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Jun 30, 2026

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The Intersection of Capital Markets & Housing: Dynex Capital's Byron Boston & Smriti Popenoe on the Role of REITs (Real Estate Investment Trusts) 30.06.2026

Dynex Capital Chairman & Co-CEO Byron Boston and Co-CEO & President Smriti Popenoe join Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat the intersection of capital markets & housing, and the role of REITs (real estate investment trusts). Dynex Capital proudly leads the way in mortgage real estate investing, turning residential & commercial real estate into powerful drivers of compell...

Real Estate Agents Aren't Going Away: eXp Realty's Leo Pareja on the Real Estate Brokerage World 15.06.2026

eXp Realty CEO Leo Pareja joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat why real estate agents aren't going anywhere anytime soon, plus the latest happenings in the real estate brokerage world. eXp Realty is the largest independent real estate brokerage in the world. Hear what's actually happening with pocket listings, how the real estate agent experience is changing with tec...

Looking Back at The Year Ahead in Housing: Revisiting Our 2025 Recap & 2026 Predictions for the Housing Industry 01.06.2026

We're almost halfway through 2026. What did we get right? What did we get wrong? What would've been impossible for us to predict? What should we be thinking about for the 2nd half of 2026? These are the questions Jeremy answers to start off this special look back at our 2025 recap & 2026 predictions for the housing industry, originally released in early January 2026. Enjoy!  Another crazy year, an...

Making Modular Housing Actually Work: Cloud Apartments' Apoorva Pasricha on Beating the Odds with Modular Multifamily Development 18.05.2026

Cloud Apartments Chief Operating Officer Apoorva Pasricha joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat using tech, partners, and a smart business model to provide an enduring solution for modular housing. Cloud Apartments reduces the cost of multifamily development through intelligent modular design & delivery. Hear why many modular housing companies fail, where their time &...

Baby Bust, Housing Bust: Author & Washington Examiner's Tim Carney on How America Became Family Unfriendly 04.05.2026

Author, Washington Examiner Senior Political Columnist, and American Enterprise Institute (AEI) Senior Fellow Tim Carney joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to chat the ties between the baby bust & housing crisis in the US. Tim's latest book is Family Unfriendly: How Our Culture Made Raising Kids Much Harder Than It Needs to Be . Hear whether the baby bust is a housing issu...

As Goes Detroit, So Goes the Nation: Gilbert Family Foundation & Rocket Community Fund's Laura Grannemann on Housing Lessons from the Motor City 20.04.2026

Gilbert Family Foundation & Rocket Community Fund Executive Director Laura Grannemann joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss housing lessons for the US based on their work in Detroit. The Gilbert Family Foundation (GFF) exists to accelerate a cure for NF1 and grow opportunity and equity in Detroit and our home cities, and the Rocket Community Fund aims to simplify c...

Disrupting the Real Estate Agent Segment with AI: Homa's Arman Javaherian on How to Win as a Housing Startup 06.04.2026

Homa CEO & Co-Founder Arman Javaherian - a former Senior Director at Zillow - joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss disrupting the real estate agent segment with AI. Homa replaces the traditional buyer's agent, combining AI with expert support while returning up to 2% of the purchase price back. They allow you to buy a home without a realtor. Hear why there histori...

Bonus Episode: Talking Trump's Executive Orders on Housing with Mindset's Jeb Mason 23.03.2026

And just like that, we're back with a Bonus Episode covering more breaking news in housing! In this episode of Housing Insiders, returning guest Jeb Mason of public policy consultancy Mindset joins Jonathan & Jeremy to break down Trump's 2 executive orders related to housing affordability & mortgage credit. Hear what inspired these 2 executive orders in the first place, the impact they'll have on...

21st Century ROAD to Housing Act: Baker Donelson's Kara Ward on What's Next for Housing Supply 16.03.2026

Baker Donelson Shareholder Kara Ward joins Jonathan & Jeremy on this episode of Housing Insiders to discuss the 21st Century ROAD to Housing Act, which the Senate recently passed. Hear the most impactful provisions in the bill, why it's being portrayed as anti-investor, the areas where it could actually hurt housing supply, the potential big wins for modular housing, and what the bill means for zo...

Will AI Replace My Job in the Housing Industry? The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis in Housing Finance 02.03.2026

Congrats on surviving the AI crisis. In this episode of Housing Insiders, Jonathan & Jeremy take a stab at AI doomsday from a housing lens, inspired by The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis by Alap Shah & Citrini Research. Hear whether AI will make housing tech & human intelligence worthless, what tasks AI will help us finally get done in housing finance, why we're in one of the most protectionist i...

Bonus Episode: Prosperity Now's Chrissi Johnson & Nestment's Niles Lichtenstein On Life after the Starter Home 22.02.2026

In this Bonus Episode of Housing Insiders, Jeremy Potter continues the conversation with Prosperity Now 's Chrissi Johnson and Nestment 's Niles Lichtenstein about the fate of the starter home. The trio's new report, The Starter Home Is Dead. Now What? , is a eulogy to a bygone era of traditional homeownership, but it also offers hope to buyers still trying to get into the market. Whether it's sha...

Shared Equity Series - Part 2: Homium's Marcus Martin & Crib Equity's Skye Laudari on New Models to Share Home Equity 16.02.2026

It's a Housing Insiders month unlike any other. This month, we're sharing a 2-part series on shared equity, featuring models that allow consumers to do something besides just renting or owning a home, but sharing. In Part 2, you'll hear Jonathan & Jeremy interview Homium CEO Marcus Martin and Crib Equity Co-Founder & CEO Skye Laudari . Homium partners with state and local HFAs, municipalities, and...

Shared Equity Series - Part 1: Ownify's Frank Rohde & Cedar's Stuart Allan on New Models to Share Home Equity 02.02.2026

It's a Housing Insiders month unlike any other. This month, we're sharing a 2-part series on shared equity, featuring models that allow consumers to do something besides just renting or owning a home, but sharing. In Part 1, you'll hear Jonathan & Jeremy introduce the concept & key terminology of shared home equity, followed by interviews with Ownify Founder & CEO Frank Rohde and Cedar Co-Founder...

Breaking Ground, Breaking Rules: btcRE's Ryan Gorman on Winning at Redevelopment 19.01.2026

Former Coldwell Banker CEO and now btcRE Founder Ryan Gorman spends his time turning stubborn buildings into productive, community‑anchored assets. In this episode of Housing Insiders, Ryan joins Jonathan and Jeremy to talk candidly about what it really takes to make a redevelopment pencil out today: juggling design and finance, deciding whether becoming a developer is still worth it, why it's so...

Bonus Episode: The Starter Home Is Dead. Now What? With Nestment's Niles Lichtenstein 11.01.2026

Jeremy Potter picks up the solo hosting duties in this Bonus Episode of Housing Insiders live from the 2025 Prosperity Summit . He was on a panel with Niles Lichtenstein , the Co-Founder & CEO of Nestment - the team of first-time homebuying experts. In this session, they tackle the death of the starter home and what first-time homebuyers can actually do to get in the home equity game. Hear the his...

The Year Ahead in Housing: 2025 Recap & 2026 Predictions for the Housing Industry 05.01.2026

Another crazy year, another crazy year in the housing industry. In this special episode of Housing Insiders, Jonathan & Jeremy look back at how their 2025 housing predictions fared and reveal their housing predictions for 2026. Hear what excites them about innovation in the housing industry, how AI will impact lending this year, the housing policy changes that may or may not finally happen, a ligh...

Dear Director Pulte: A Christmas Wish List for the GSEs 22.12.2025

It's the most wonderful time of the year, so we naturally had to get something off our chest. In this special episode of Housing Insiders, Jeremy plays solo host and Jonathan plays guest, bringing his Christmas Wish List for FHFA Director Bill Pulte and the GSEs. It's an extra passion-filled episode that reveals Jonathan's biggest wish for 2026, the creation of a GSE-backed construction loan. The...

Zoning, GSEs, and the Housing Squeeze: The Bipartisan Policy Center's Dennis Shea 08.12.2025

Dennis Shea is the Executive Vice President and Chair of the J. Ronald Terwilliger Center for Housing Policy at the Bipartisan Policy Center (BPC). His past work with the Bipartisan Center includes serving as a consultant to the BPC's blue-ribbon Housing Commission and its Senior Health and Housing Task Force. Hear what the government should be focusing on to make housing more affordable, what's h...

Thanksgiving Special: A Full Thanksgiving Meal of Housing Topics & Traditions 24.11.2025

Happy Thanksgiving! Thank you for tuning into Housing Insiders and for making this show so special.  In this Thanksgiving Special episode, Jonathan & Jeremy serve up their favorite Thanksgiving meal traditions - from those cheese ball appetizers to the air-fried bird - along with sides of their favorite products & trends they're liking in the industry. After a boozy Friendsgiving, Jonathan usually...

Inspector Gadgets? Inspectify's Josh Jensen on Simplifying Home Inspections 10.11.2025

Inspectify Co-Founder & CEO Josh Jensen is fed up with the state of property & home inspections. That's why he started his company - a vertically integrated property inspection & underwriting platform. He joins Jonathan Lawless & Jeremy Potter in this fiery episode of Housing Insiders - not Psychology Insiders - to talk the past, present, and future of property & home inspections. Hear who gets ho...

Founders in Focus: Vellum Mortgage's Patrick Gardner & Ardley's Nate Den Herder on Building Smarter Lending 26.10.2025

Vellum Mortgage Principal Patrick Gardner and Ardley Founder & CEO Nate Den Herder join their buddies Jonathan Lawless and Jeremy Potter for a special in-person, Horse Soldier Bourbon -fueled edition of Housing Insiders. Gardner founded Vellum Mortgage to provide transparency and speed to borrowers. After working alongside Gardner for more than two years, Den Herder split off from Vellum to found...

ADUs to the Rescue: Villa's Sean Roberts on Offsite Construction & Industrialized Construction 13.10.2025

Villa CEO Sean Roberts joins Housing Insiders to share the latest & greatest from the world of offsite construction as it relates to ADUs (Accessory Dwelling Units). From design to doorbell, Villa's ADUs offer a turnkey solution for primary homes, multifamily developments, and neighborhoods. Hear the most common use cases for ADUs, the pros & cons of offsite construction & industrialized construct...

Bonus Episode: Housing Lessons Learned from Up For Growth's Michigan Regional Pro-Housing Policy Forum 06.10.2025

Jeremy Potter picks up the solo hosting duties in this Bonus Episode of Housing Insiders live from Up For Growth's Michigan Regional Pro-Housing Policy Forum in downtown Detroit. The conference convenes leaders from government, business, finance, and advocacy to cut through political gridlock, harness bipartisan federal momentum, and deliver bold, practical solutions that match homes to the needs...

Beyond the Single Family Home: Diana Lind on Rethinking How Americans Live 28.09.2025

Author & Nonprofit Executive Diana Lind joins Housing Insiders to talk about her journey from architecture and design writer to housing policy expert. Diana is the Philadelphia Program Officer of the Asset Funders Network and the founder and author of The New Urban Order Substack. Her most recent book is Brave New Home: Our Future in Smarter, Simpler, Happier Housing (2020). On the show, Diana unp...

Gen Z Doesn't Believe You: FirstHome IQ's Kristin Messerli on Housing's Trust Problem 15.09.2025

FirstHome IQ Co-Founder & Executive Director Kristin Messerli joins Housing Insiders to reveal the surprising stats & trends from the 2025 NextGen Homebuyer Report . The report covers Millennial and Gen Z homebuying trends, tying to Kristin's mission of delivering homeowner education before the age of 25. Hear why Millennials and Gen Zers are less trusting of professionals in the housing industry,...

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