Dr. Sally Spencer-Thomas
Hope Illuminated Podcast: Helping the Helpers Bring Light to Life’s Darkest Moments
Welcome to the Hope Illuminated Podcast, your source for the stories, science and strategy of suicide prevention, mental health promotion and resilience where we live, learn, and work. I’m your host, Dr. Sally Spencer-Thomas, and I am on a life mission to empower communities with solutions that help people overcome isolation and despair and rekindle a passion for living. Each episode we’re joined by international experts who inspire hope and offer real guidance. Welcome to the show! I am so grateful you are here.
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Jun 30, 2026
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Episodes
Storytelling in Community -- Lifting Up the Voices of People with Lived Experience: Interview with Jennifer Marshall | Episode 67 11.08.2020 50:10
“Storytelling is the water of human communication…” (Bayer & Hettinger, 2019, p. 4) “Neither revolution nor reformation can ultimately change a society, rather you must tell a more powerful tale, one so persuasive that it sweeps away the old myths and becomes the preferred story…” ~Ivan Illich Our individual narratives are “building blocks” for our collectively shared representations of the past a...
The "How" of Suicide -- Why the "Means Matter": Interview with Catherine Barber, Elaine Frank & Shelby Kuhn | Episode 66 28.07.2020 1:21:12
Very often in the world of suicide prevention we fall — as Frank Campbell says — into the “canyon of why.” Why did they take their life? Why didn’t they tell someone? Why, why, why. We often over look that question “how”. On this podcast a panel of our nation’s leaders on reducing access to lethal means tell us why the “means matter” in suicide prevention. They share innovative and effective colla...
Workplace Suicide Prevention Training: Interview with Gabriela Malafaia | Episode 65 14.07.2020 1:02:29
The workplace is arguably the most cross-cutting system in suicide prevention. Just about everyone who dies by suicide or attempts suicide was working, was recently working, or has a close friend or family member who is working. Thus, just like we promote CPR training at our job sites to save lives, we should also consider on-going, skill developing suicide prevention training programs. In this pr...
Human Rights and Mental Health -- Justice Speaks: Interview with Judge Ginger Lerner-Wren | Episode 64 23.06.2020 58:28
Suicide Prevention from a Social Justice Perspective Figure 3 B MH, PH, SJ Diagram color.jpg A new social movement is emerging, and it’s gaining momentum: it’s time we position suicide prevention as a social justice issue. If we only view suicide through the mental health lens, we will be very limited in our ability to create systematic change. When we look at suicide prevention through this lens,...
Black Men, the Uneven Playing Field and Mental Health -- Perspectives from a Former NFL Player: Interview with Dwight Hollier | Episode 63 16.06.2020 48:59
Overview Mass incarceration, police brutality, and systemic racism are just some of the trauma and injustice many Black men face every day. In this podcast I have a difficult conversation during a heavy time with former NFL player Dwight Hollier about his story of living through tough times, how many benefit from the positive psychology of sport, and the four pillars of strength needed for total w...
Myth Busting -- Fatherhood, Fact Checking and Men's Mental Health: Interview with Josh Levs | Episode 62 09.06.2020 46:02
There are many stories we tell that hold men back from living their best lives. Here are a few that create barriers for men to reach out when they are distressed (Solomon): “No sissy stuff” — in other words, if it is what women do, then it’s not for “real men.” “Be a big wheel” — you are what you do for a living; achievement and your paycheck define your worth. “Sturdy oak” — you are the one peopl...
9 Tactics to Stay Present When Life is Uncertain: Interview with Hugh Ingalls | Episode 61 26.05.2020 44:01
Ambiguity is tolerated by some better than others. Small experiences of uncertainty can be exhilarating and bring us the joy of surprise. Large and prolonged periods of uncertainty can cause debilitating anxiety, leaving people paralyzed. In this interview, Hugh Ingalls and I discuss nine tactics people can use when living in uncertainty to help stay present and reduce anxiety: Draw a circle. Draw...
Coping with Anxiety and Loneliness through Digital Health: Interview with Dr. Nathaan Demers | Episode 60 12.05.2020 52:51
About Dr. Nathaan Demers Nathaan Demers Headshot B&W.png Nathaan is passionate about people. This passion has led him to an enriching career as a clinical psychologist, filled with a number of twists and turns working across a variety of settings. Nathaan is an active traveler and athlete - these aspects of his life have inspired him to think beyond the traditional confines of mental health care....
Leading Others to Resilience -- 3 Ways to Accelerate Organizational Recovery During Crisis: Interview with Bob VandePol | Episode 59 28.04.2020 52:27
Why Predictability, Control, and Safety Matter in Crisis Management The hallmarks of a traumatic experience are Unpredictability, Powerlessness and Threat. As leaders, the way that we can best assist our team is to help create the opposite of those things which is Predictability, Safety and Control. Predictability - inform your staff of what to expect as much as possible. For example, what time co...
How to Fight Soul Exhaustion -- Soul Care During Difficult Times: Interview with Sarah Gaer | Episode 58 14.04.2020 51:15
When we are in crisis we find ourselves constantly drained by the urgent and important things in our life that demand our attention. Should we get a moment of reprieve, we often succumb to the desire to escape by engaging in something that numbs us out. In this podcast we talk about making time for spiritual wellness during difficult times. My guest, suicide prevention specialist and community tra...
Leadership's Role in Workplace Mental Health -- Inspiring a Collective Mindset of Care: Interview with Cal Beyer | Episode 57 31.03.2020 56:32
Overview What are the steps leaders need to take in cultivating a mindset of psychological well-being and a caring community? In this podcast, Cal Beyer and I analyze the steps many leaders have taken to make suicide prevention and mental health promotion health and safety priorities at work. About Cal Beyer Cal Beyer Headshot B&W.png Cal is Vice President of Workforce Risk and Mental Wellbeing at...
Recovery is Community - Men, Addiction, and moving off Mach Island: Rourke Weaver Ep. 56 18.03.2020 1:12:49
“Never trust a man who doesn’t drink,” John Wayne From the Rat Pack to Animal House to Ernest Hemingway to John Wayne, many cultural icons of masculinity have glamorized the idea that booze puts hair on your chest. The Tough Guy Culture and Addiction Traditional American messages of masculinity teach boys to be lone wolves and to stuff down emotions. Feelings (except anger) then become taboo. This...
Living with Depression Where It's Hard to Share: Interview with Cameron Stout | Episode 55 04.03.2020 55:52
Overview The decision to share one’s story about living with depression, addiction, suicidal ideation, or any other emotional challenge is deeply personal and worthy of reflection. With the nonprofit I help oversee, United Suicide Survivors International, we encourage people with lived experience to ask themselves, “Am I Ready” (on-line course) before sharing their story publicly. By weighing the...
Emotional Intelligence at Work -- Building Trust and Transparency Leadership Skills: Interview with Brent Darnell | Episode 54 18.02.2020 52:43
Emotional Intelligence — What is it and Why Does it Matter at Work? Despite being in public awareness for many years, emotional intelligence remains an undervalued competency in many workplaces. The more we learn about the impact of training on emotional intelligence at work, the more we impressed we are with the ways it can affect safety, retention and even insurance costs. If you are an “Alpha”...
Gratitude in Action -- How To Practice Gratitude and Unlock Happiness: Interview with Justin Kruger | Episode 53 04.02.2020 50:23
“Gratitude unlocks the fullness of life. It turns what we have into enough, and more. It turns denial into acceptance, chaos into order, confusion into clarity. It turns problems into gifts, failures into success, the unexpected into perfect timing, and mistakes into important events. Gratitude makes sense of our past, brings peace for today, and creates a vision for tomorrow.” ~Melodie Beattie Ov...
But I Didn’t Say Goodbye -- Helping Families After a Suicide: Interview with Barbara Rubel | Episode 52 21.01.2020 55:18
“Grief is love not wanting to let go.” When children are grieving a death by suicide, they need the caring adults around them to help them find their way through Wordon’s tasks of mourning: Task #1: Accept the Reality of the Loss Task #2: Process the Pain of the Grief Task #3: Adjust to a World without the Deceased Task #4: Move on to an Enduring Connection While Embarking on a New Life In this po...
Wellness at Work — What the Fire Service Can Teach Us about Creating a Kitchen Table Culture: Interview with Captain Dena Ali | Episode 51 07.01.2020 1:12:40
Our best bet in preventing suicide is to get in front of it. Way in front. Promoting protective factors will not only reduce the risk of suicide — it also is a great way to build a life worth living. In this podcast, I interview Captain Dena Ali about what we have learned about wellness at work from the fire service and about the mitigating effects of social support, mindfulness and sleep. We also...
The Human Side of Crisis Management: Interview with Tricia Kagerer | Episode 50 17.12.2019 58:44
“We are not just human resources, we are human beings.” A significant workplace traumatic event can make or break a company depending on how well the employer has prepared for it — at the heart of a successful transition through the crisis is the how well leadership connects with the people most impacted by the trauma. In this interview, Tricia Kagerer, an expert in workplace risk management, shar...
Social Media, SEO & Suicide: How Can We Intervene On-Line When People Have Lost Hope? 03.12.2019 55:05
How do we help people in despair overcome emotional pain and reconnect to purpose through an on-line intervention? Connection is the answer. Technology is the tool. Our on-line technologies can have a whole spectrum of impact on our behavior — from helpful and healthy to harmful and hurtful, and the data we derive from our engagement with technology tells a powerful tale. When “13 Reasons Why” cam...
When Therapists Have Lived through Suicide Intensity -- Deep Insights on Helping the Suicidal Person: Interview with Dr. Stacey Freedenthal 19.11.2019 1:02:09
Do mental health providers’ own personal histories with suicide impact their interactions with and attitudes towards people experiencing suicide intensity? What happens when clinicians disclose their own suicide attempts to the public or to their clients? Does an “insider’s view” help a therapist to be more of an ally than an adversary? In this interview Dr. Stacey Freedenthal and I explore these...
Teens Bereaved by Suicide -- Moving Forward When You Feel Left Behind: Interview with Jason Holzer | Episode 47 05.11.2019 55:48
When a teen loses a loved one to suicide, the intense reactions can be overwhelming, and sometimes the caring adults don’t know what to do to help. Teens who are already feeling the pressure of school and social expectations can be very challenged in navigating the complexity of suicide bereavement. In this interview, Jason shares his journey from surviving to thriving after losing his Dad to suic...
The Forgotten Mourners — Disenfranchised Grief of Siblings Bereaved by Suicide: Interview with Dr. Lena Heilmann | Episode 46 22.10.2019 58:41
Editor of “Still with Us: Voices of Sibling Suicide Loss,” Dr. Lena Heilmann joins me for our shared reflection on the experience of losing a brother or sister to suicide. We speak about how in this form of loss, siblings experience losing their past, present and future. Lena also suggests many strategies for coping with the grief and trauma of suicide loss. On November 22, 2012, Lena lost her sis...
Global Perspectives on World Suicide Prevention -- Taking a Glimpse inside the World Congress of the International Association for Suicide 08.10.2019 31:44
Over 855 delegates from 57 countries convened in Derry/Londonderry to share the science, stories and strategy of suicide prevention and suicide grief/trauma support. The theme of the conference was "Breaking Down Walls, Building Bridges" and the conference planners were exceptionally mindful about equity in their selection of speakers and content. The voices of people with lived experience were pr...
Suicide and Culture -- Arts, Religion and Social Justice: Interview with Dr. Erminia Colucci | Episode 44 24.09.2019 51:26
In the United States our suicide rates are going up, but in much of the world, the suicide rates are going down. In this interview I speak with the world renowned Erminia Colucci to discuss the Anglo perspective of a highly medicalized perspective of suicide and contrast that with an understanding of suicide in a larger context. In her view, we must situate suicide prevention within a social, cult...
Working Together to Prevent Suicide: What the World Can Learn on World Suicide Prevention Day” Episode 43 with Professor Rory O'Conner 10.09.2019 1:10:24
The World Health Organization has declared suicide prevention a global imperative. Every year World Suicide Prevention falls on September 10th. This year I interviewed Professor Rory O’Connor as he prepared for the 30th World Congress of Suicide Prevention in Derry, Northern Ireland. Rory O'Connor B&W.png About Professor Rory O’Connor Rory O’Connor was “born to be a psychologist,” knowing at an ea...
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