John S. Nash & Stephie Haynes
Hey Not The Face! Podcast
A newsletter and podcast covering the business of face-punching! heynottheface.substack.com
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Jul 10, 2026
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Is there a chance McGregor gets $100M for the White House card? | Ep. 191 26.09.2025 29:42
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re looking at Thomas Brown’s letter supporting the new Ali Act bill proposal. We also break down TKO’s thirst for site fees, their political targets in pushing through the bill proposal, and if we could possibly see some sort of bidding war between the Saudis and the UAE...
Mainstream media highlights new details in TKO-Saudi partnership | Ep. 190 23.09.2025 31:20
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re looking at Thomas Hauser’s longform article on The Guardian about the TKO-Saudi partnership that revealed some new details. We also break down new antitrust updates, and look at why WBA president Gilberto Mendoza had criticisms for PBC and Tom Brown. We discuss Andy F...
Is Netflix inflating the number of viewers for their boxing events? | Ep. 189 19.09.2025 33:51
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re looking at John’s comprehensive analysis of the wage share discrepancy between boxing and UFC (up on Uncrowned right now). We also discuss Matt Brown’s excellent take about the MMA business, TKO’s share buybacks, Heather Hardy’s lawsuit, and Nick Diaz’ UFC release. We...
We're analyzing the business aspects of Canelo-Crawford | Ep. 188 16.09.2025 34:21
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re discussing all the business aspects of Canelo vs. Crawford. We look at the numbers from the gate, the crowd in attendance and the viewer numbers to determine a probable success rate in each area. We look at some of the comments from Eddie Hearn’s interview on Ariel He...
Dana White supports new Ali Act bill, cites TKO stock price | Ep. 187 12.09.2025 35:17
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re discussing the interviews Dana White gave this week and how his answers were very telling for the future of boxing. We also take a look at Mark Shapiro’s comments during the Goldman Sachs Communacopia + Technology Conference, and the media freeze-out that’s happening...
Public tells CSAC they hate proposed Ali Act changes | Ep. 186 09.09.2025 28:18
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re discussing the CSAC committee meeting regarding the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act, as there’s a lot to unpack with what transpired. We also take a look at Thomas Hauser’s profile piece on Richard Schaefer, and Ilia Topuria’s comments about Bud Crawford. The...
Are freakshow fights overshadowing Canelo vs. Crawford? | Ep. 185 05.09.2025 32:21
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re discussing the payouts for the Le v. Zuffa antitrust case, Dana’s alleged gambling debts and TKO’s big dividends. We’re also looking at Mackenzie Dern’s lack of awareness that her upcoming fight with Virna Jandiroba was for a title, and TKO’s new, exclusive deal with...
Paramount guaranteed to lose money on the UFC | Ep. 184 02.09.2025 31:22
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re discussing the status hearings in the ongoing UFC antitrust cases, Morgan Stanley’s analysis of the paramount-UFC broadcast partnership, and if UFC offers automatic rematch clauses to champions. We also take a look at Ali Abdel-Aziz’ explanation of PPV points, UFC’s p...
Why the deck is so stacked against UFC fighters | Ep. 183 26.08.2025 31:11
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re discussing the ongoing problems with fighter pay, and why so many people weighing in on it are not considering all the facets of it and why athletes like Charles Johnson could be “in the red” without having mismanaged their finances. We’re also taking a look at how mu...
Double Feature: Patrick English + James Quinn interview exclusives | Ep. 182 23.08.2025 1:05:12
SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re proud to present interviews with two of the biggest attorneys in sports. The first one is with Patrick English, a lawyer with 45 years of experience. He played a crucial role in assisting John McCain in developing the Professional Boxing Safety Act and the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act. Mr. English has also has litigated Ali Act cases, and represented nu...
We're taking a deep dive into the Zuffa Boxing standard contract | Ep. 181 19.08.2025 29:01
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re discussing the rumors of the Apex venue’s expansion, UFC 319’s big gate, and Mark Shapiro’s increasing footprint We’re also examining the rumors that WWE has the option to purchase TNA Wrestling and another similar rumor that Lorenzo Fertitta is interested in buying t...
Yes, UFC fighters are getting screwed but it's not their fault | Ep. 180 15.08.2025 30:36
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re discussing the latest filings in the Johnson v. Zuffa antitrust case, Trump’s revocation of a Biden executive order regarding competition, and fighter revenue share and possible purse increases. We also have a thorough breakdown about why a fighters union won’t work,...
Interview exclusive: UFC antitrust case architect Rob Maysey, Esq. | Ep. 179 12.08.2025 40:28
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re briefly discussing the UFC media rights deal with Paramount that was announced today. If you’re wondering why our chat on the topic was brief, it’s because we also had a guest, the attorney who worked tirelessly to get the Le v. Zuffa antitrust case where it is curren...
TKO's combat sports takeover will be expensive for fans | Ep. 178 08.08.2025 24:25
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re discussing a variety of topics that include ESPN’s huge deals with the NFL and the WWE, their new DTC pricing that will be unveiled in two weeks, and who they prefer for boxing content. We also dive into Andy Foster’s interview with Ariel Helwani and TKO’s investors c...
Is TKO overplaying their hand with WWE fans? | Ep. 177 05.08.2025 31:01
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re discussing a variety of topics that include ABC’s new president and what we know about him, Matt Brown’s criticism of Renato Moicano, Tapology’s new UFC fighter rankings system, UFC Qatar site fees, and Martin Buday’s release. We also talked about PFL’s great strides...
How proposed Ali Act amendment also hurts UFC fighters | Ep. 176 01.08.2025 31:41
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Today, we’re discussing a variety of topics that include Conor McGregor’s latest loss, Karate Combat’s legal issues, new filings in the Johnson v. Zuffa antitrust case and how the proposed amendment to the Ali Act will likely hurt UFC fighters if it passes. We also talked about De...
Can anything stop TKO's boxing takeover featuring Kurt Emhoff, Esq. | Ep. 175 30.07.2025 52:39
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT On today’s massive episode, we are joined by attorney Kurt Emhoff of the Boxing Esquire Podcast to break down the proposed amendment to the Ali Act. John and Kurt discuss what TKO is trying to do, how they’re doing it, who is helping them, and what the likely outcomes will be. The...
How the proposed Ali Act amendment helps TKO and nobody else | Ep. 174 24.07.2025 35:54
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT On Wednesday, July 23, reports came out with the news that a bi-partisan bill was introduced that proposed legislation to amend the Ali Act. There were several notable points that included a minimum “per round” pay scale, a health insurance plan, enhanced drug testing, safety prot...
What can UFC fighters learn from the WNBA pay dispute | Ep. 173 22.07.2025 32:56
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT This episode features discussion on Oleksandr Usyk’s place in heavyweight history and overall boxing history. We delve into Jake Paul’s possible clash with Usyk in MMA and his desire to have a boxing match with Anthony Joshua. We look at why there’s no major boxing for more than a...
Some fighters now have finish bonuses in their contracts | Ep. 172 18.07.2025 27:39
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT This episode features more discussion on the UFC’s broadcast rights deal, their “step-up” network plan, how the UFC could offset the costs of the White House card, how some fighters now have finish bonuses worked into their contracts (but not all fighters), why Endeavor Streaming...
Did Conor McGregor stiff the UFC? | Ep. 171 15.07.2025 25:52
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT This episode features discussion on Conor McGregor’s latest reveal, be it self-inflicted or at the hands of Azealia Banks. We talk about whether he’s caused any impact to the UFC’s ongoing negotiations with prospective broadcast partners and if we think he actually makes it onto t...
Is KSW the rightful 'Number 2'? | Ep. 170 08.07.2025 27:47
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT This episode features discussion on Trump’s announcement that the UFC will be hosting an event on the White House lawn next year and all the implications of that announcement in relation to the current broadcast rights negotiations for the promotion. We also take a look at financi...
ONE Championship’s 2023 Finances: Only $26 million left in the bank | Ep. 169 02.07.2025 22:53
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT For years now, ONE Championship has made a lot of boasts about being one of the biggest sports properties in the World , even as they burned through money without any signs of profitability being close at hand. But in recent years they have made noticeable efforts to cut costs, re...
Fighters who were prepared to testify for the UFC are about to receive millions | Ep. 168 01.07.2025 28:26
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT This week’s episode features discussion about the steep decrease in MMA fights each year, and some interesting facts about the antitrust case payouts. We’re also taking a look at Ilia Topuria’s potential star power, as well as Jake Paul’s impact on boxing. We further examine wheth...
One Night Only: UFC 317 Care-Don't Care with Eugene S. Robinson | Ep. 167 27.06.2025 1:05:59
This week’s episode features a callback to a show John and I used to do with the illustrious rocker/writer Eugene S. Robinson. We joined forces once again to do an episode of Care-Don’t Care for this weekend’s UFC 317 PPV. We finish up the episode with some commentary on Jon Jones career and bad choices. Follow along with our outline as you listen: Ep. 167 Outline (UFC 317 bouts) * Ilia Topuria vs...
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