John S. Nash & Stephie Haynes

Hey Not The Face! Podcast

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John S. Nash & Stephie Haynes

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Nov 2, 2026

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Episodes

Did the Fertittas treat fighters better than TKO | Ep. 290 02.11.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest developments in the UFC antitrust cases. We also disc...

A conversation with Paul Magno on the state of Boxing | Ep. 289 28.10.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, John is sitting down with Paul Magno of the Boxing Tribune for an all-encompassin...

Does Zuffa Boxing offer anything to the sport? | Ep. 288 23.10.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest developments in the UFC antitrust cases. We also disc...

How important are UFC titles? | Ep. 287 16.10.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest developments in the UFC antitrust cases. We also disc...

How UFC Fighters can help get another big antitrust settlement | Ep. 286 12.10.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest developments in the UFC antitrust cases now that the...

Day 2: Details from UFC antitrust evidentiary hearing | Ep. 285 10.10.2026

Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, John sits down with our field reporter, Ed Vidri , who attended Friday’s evidentiary hearing for the UFC antitrust cases. Ed once again takes through an exacting recount...

Details from UFC antitrust evidentiary hearing | Ep. 284 09.10.2026

Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, John sits down with our field reporter, Ed Vidri , who attended Thursday’s evidentiary hearing for the UFC antitrust cases. Ed takes extremely detailed notes, so we’re fo...

Is the UFC antitrust lawsuit funded by a competitor? | Ep. 283 02.10.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest developments in the UFC antitrust cases, and they are...

Will the Hearn-White feud derail Fury-Joshua? | Ep. 282 29.09.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the battle for the right to officially promote Anthony Joshua vs...

Have we seen boxing’s best days? | Ep. 281 25.09.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the health of boxing and if it’s so far gone as to be unrecovera...

Paulo Costa should take UFC to arbitration | Ep. 280 21.09.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at UFC 331 payouts and what they represent. We go from the lowest t...

Nico Ali-Walsh was wrong about the new Ali Act bill | Ep. 279 18.09.2026

Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s FREE episode, we’re looking at TKO’s amendment to the Ali Act and how John’s idea of how it could get passed this year is actually unfolding before our very eyes. We discuss Nico...

Can TKO pass the Ali Act amendment bill this year? | Ep. 278 15.09.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at TKO’s amendment to the Ali Act and whether it can get passed thi...

The UFC might not need a trial to lose this case | Ep. 277 07.09.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at the increasing list of problems with the UFC’s antitrust cases....

Special Edition: Update from Johnson v. Zuffa Status Conference 04.09.2026

Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In this episode, we’re looking at today’s UFC antitrust status conference hearing for the Johnson v. Zuffa case and the other two cases associated with it (Cirkunovs v. Zuffa, Davis v. Zuffa...

Is Kevin Holland overpaid? | Ep. 276 28.08.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at Dana White’s claim that a Contender Series alumnus has made $11M...

UFC, major league of MMA still pays like the minor league | Ep. 275 26.08.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at UFC fighter pay and how not much has changed, despite claims tha...

Weighing in on Eddie Hearn’s reported demands for AJ vs. Fury | Ep. 274 21.08.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at Eddie Hearn’s reported list of demands to keep the boxing match...

Is there a conflict of interest with WME clients McAfee and Rogan? | Ep. 273 19.08.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com Thank you for checking out the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d be eternally grateful if you could help us by purchasing a subscription for access to all our paywalled content. In today’s episode, we’re looking at a possible conflict of interest between WME clients Pat McAfee a...

Does the UFC Really Have To Offer 3 Fights a Year? | Video 12.08.2026

Thanks for stopping by the Hey Not The Face! Podcast, a listener-supported publication. We’d appreciate it if you could help us spread word of this episode by sharing it far and wide. In today’s episode, John does a deep dive on Dana White’s claims that UFC has to offer fighters three bouts per year. He examines current situations with shelved fighters (Paulo Costa and Nassourdine Imavov), what ot...

Like a broken clock, Sean Strickland was right | Ep. 272 07.08.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the comments Sean Strickland made regarding what he calls the UFC’s “predatory pay” tactics, and his take on working with “the guy everyone hates working with”, Sean Shelby. We also discuss Congressional Black Caucus’ possible effect on the Ali...

How long can an aging Dana White be the UFC's biggest star? | Ep. 271 05.08.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the newly released TKO financials and discussing their quarterly earnings call. We discuss whether they actually lost money on UFC Freedom 250, and how long we think Dana White can continue being the face of the UFC. We weigh in on DAZN’s big m...

Analyzing the Senate's version of the new Ali Act bill | Ep. 270 31.07.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the newly revised Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act and the MVP-PFL merger as our primary topics. We discuss whether Nico Ali-Walsh got the wool pulled over his eyes, what meaningful changes (if any) have been introduced to the new revis...

How important is Nico Ali-Walsh to TKO? | Ep. 269 29.07.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at boxing as our primary topic. We discuss last weekend’s fights, the full weekend Nico Ali-Walsh had, and the Zuffa Boxing card. We weigh in on answers Dana White gave during the post-event press conference, and we discuss the Saudi’s burning emp...

Can TKO get the Ali passed? | Ep. 268 22.07.2026

This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the latest UFC antitrust case(s) updates. In our main topic, we discuss how a purse bid works, and why it’s so very important to boxers. We also examine why free agency is the single most important mechanism to the health of a sport, and how Sa...

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