John S. Nash & Stephie Haynes
Hey Not The Face! Podcast
A newsletter and podcast covering the business of face-punching! heynottheface.substack.com
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Jul 10, 2026
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Can MVP make a legitimate run at the UFC? | Ep. 238 30.03.2026 37:39
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the PPV estimates posted by the Wrestling Observer, whether UFC has a star power problem, and the UFC antitrust updates, as well as emerging information on why the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act passed the House so quickly. We also di...
Exclusive Interview: UFC antitrust Litigant Jon Fitch | Ep. 237 26.03.2026 1:00:36
SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, John interviews UFC antitrust litigant Jon Fitch. The sprawling conversation covers a variety of questions with topics like AKA’s image rights, when he decided to sign on to the antitrust lawsuit, his thoughts on the new lawsuits, and his take on current fighters’ complaints about their pay. There’s a lot more, so make sure to follow along with our...
Summary of TKO's recent skullduggery | Ep. 236 23.03.2026 42:41
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at all the suspect actions of TKO and Ari Emanuel, and trust that there are quite a few to go over. We weigh in on the way they’ve got their thumb on the scale in regards to the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act, the White House card’s over...
Did the UFC 'make' Ronda Rousey? | Ep. 235 18.03.2026 32:37
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at new updates to the antitrust cases, things people are missing about the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act, and Top Rank’s new deal with ESPN. We’re also discussing the comments of Sean O’Malley and Jorge Masvidal saying that the UFC ‘mad...
Is Eddie Hearn the savior of fighters? | Ep. 234 13.03.2026 42:05
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at new updates to the antitrust cases, the Congressional report on the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act and its additional views. We’re also discussing the comments of Ronda Rousey and Francis Ngannou regarding fighter pay and legacy, as w...
What fighters should do if they're not satisfied with their pay | Ep. 233 10.03.2026 46:59
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at new updates to the antitrust cases and Dana White’s comments on UFC fighter reactions to Conor Benn’s purse. We also discuss Eddie Hearn’s new talent agency, what fighters can do if they don’t like their pay, and the Zuffa Boxing kerfuffle with...
Antitrust experts say UFC engaging in spoliation shenanigans | Ep. 232 03.03.2026 45:04
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT Note: Today’s episode will be our only one this week as John will be leaving Minnesota to fly back to LA this weekend, so he’s going to be busy with personal/family activities. We’ll be back on track next week. In today’s episode, we’re looking at new updates to the antitrust case...
Finally! Someone is suing the UFC for inferior cards | Ep. 231 27.02.2026 32:49
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at new motions for sanctions filed by the plaintiffs in the UFC antitrust cases, as well as a brand new, unrelated complaint seeking class action on behalf of fans that paid for subpar UFC events. We also discuss TKO’s latest earnings statement an...
Did Plaintiffs defame Dominance MMA in UFC antitrust case? | Ep. 230 25.02.2026 49:57
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at Ronda Rousey’s comments this week regarding how the UFC promotes fights in the current era and the way she plans to go up against them. We also discuss Dana White’s comments at the post-fight presser on a variety of topics including Ronda’s upc...
Don't fire Strickland, just don't give him a microphone | Ep. 229 20.02.2026 33:50
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at UFC’s Sean Strickland problem ahead of their first on-the-road Fight Night. Considering how Strickland always ramps up hateful commentary ahead of his fights, and how Dana White is staunchly supporting “free speech” among UFC athletes, is there...
Will Rousey vs. Carano be the highest paid MMA fight of all time? | Ep. 228 18.02.2026 42:09
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at UFC antitrust updates regarding a third party vendor to review discovery, and how UFC seemed to dodge a major bullet in the spoliation of required evidence. We also discuss Ronda Rousey vs. Gina Carano from a business perspective, whether UFC s...
Why Zuffa Boxing can ignore Ali Act with new belt | Ep. 227 13.02.2026 32:36
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at major UFC antitrust updates regarding Dominance MMA’s “revolt” and failure to cooperate with agreed upon discovery measures. We also discuss Zuffa Boxing’s ability to ignore current Ali Act protections regarding the creation of their own belt,...
How fast can Zuffa Boxing reach a $20B valuation? | Ep. 226 10.02.2026 50:43
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at Zuffa Boxing’s lofty goal of becoming a $20B third arm of TKO’s combat sports empire and how that can be achieved. We also discuss Floyd Mayweather’s legal complaint in detail and whether we think it will be settled. We review the WBC’s latest...
Summary of UFC Antitrust Spoliation Hearing | Ep. 225 07.02.2026 38:26
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at both days of the UFC antitrust spoliation hearing. It’s our comprehensive review of Dana White’s testimony, Tracy Long’s, Hunter Campbell’s, and the two assistants tasked with setting up phones, social media and clouds for UFC executives. We di...
Recap on Dana White’s Court Hearing 05.02.2026 36:42
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Are boxing's sanctioning organizations worth saving? | Ep. 224 04.02.2026 34:20
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at boxing’s sanctioning organizations: how they’ve grievously injured themselves, how they lack transparency, how they could do better to protect boxers, and if they’re even worth saving. We also discuss Max Kellerman’s lip service to Dana White’s...
Could the UFC have Trump intervene in the antitrust cases? | Ep. 223 30.01.2026 29:48
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the possible measures UFC might try now that Judge Boulware and the Ninth Circuit have ruled against their emergency motions from last week. We also examine some of the things revealed in Thomas Hauser’s sprawling article about Zuffa Boxing, in...
UFC desperate to stop Judge Boulware | Ep. 222 26.01.2026 46:58
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the desperate maneuvering the UFC has done to stop Judge Boulware’s demand for six-and-a-half years of missing messages. We go over the risks the UFC faces if the Ninth Circuit doesn’t rule in their favor, the risks to the Plaintiffs if they do...
Deep dive into Congress' new Ali Act amendments | Ep. 221 23.01.2026 36:23
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the new amendments introduced to the Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act bill at the Education and Workforce Committee meeting. We go step by step through all the changes and what they mean for boxing from the top tier all the way down to...
Vergil Ortiz' contract reveals big difference in MMA and boxing purses | Ep. 220 20.01.2026 34:27
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the lawsuit Vergil Ortiz filed against Golden Boy Promotions and how Vergil’s contract illustrates the stark difference in boxing and MMA purses. We also discuss whether there’s cause for alarm over ZUFFA Boxing’s likely monopolization of the s...
Did 4 boxers make more money than every UFC fighter combined in 2025? | Ep. 219 16.01.2026 31:24
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at the top paid combat sports athletes in 2025 and it should come as no surprise that boxing is king, as it always has been. But the difference was so stark, it even gave us pause. We also take a look at new interview quotes from Dana White, Laura...
How much of the nearly $600M raised does ONE have left? | Ep. 218 12.01.2026 30:26
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at a fresh infusion of cash for ONE Championship, and asking the question, ‘How much money from their massive fundraising efforts is left. We also discuss some of the things Dana White has said over the course of last week’s interview rounds, as w...
Brazilian court case reveals relationship between UFC and fighter managers | Ep. 217 09.01.2026 45:40
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT In today’s episode, we’re looking at a Brazilian court case that has flown under the radar for months, but we’ve got the documents that reveal details of the relationship between fighter managers and the UFC. Behind our paywall, we’ll be going over What’s App messages between an M...
Can Polymarket insulate the UFC against future gambling scandals? | Ep. 216 05.01.2026 42:36
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT It’s our first episode of the year and we’ve got a hodge-podge collection of topics to discuss. We’re looking at the latest filings in the UFC antitrust cases, Polymarkets and the UFC, why Joe Rogan’s statement all but says UFC is a monopoly, and the Paramount Plus broadcast right...
Our look back at the most important combat sports stories of 2025 | Ep. 215 30.12.2025 48:08
This is a free preview of a paid episode. To hear more, visit heynottheface.substack.com SUPPORT EXPANDING THE ALI ACT We’re looking back at the biggest news of 2025 and giving it a thorough analysis. We’ve broken down what we think are the four most important news stories in both MMA and boxing, with two umbrella topics for each sport and a devoted group of questions under each topic. Make sure t...
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