Brenda J and Karen Wonder

Hanging Onto Hope Podcast

Check out our website at www.hangingontohope.orgThe Hanging Onto Hope Podcast is a unique approach to healing where we interview inspiring guests to encourage and uplift you. It is a resource for healing and education for all types of abuse and a support to those who do not have a voice.

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Brenda J and Karen Wonder

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Education

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hangingontohope.libsyn.com

Latest episode

Jul 3, 2026

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Episodes

#217 Safe Church, How To Guard Against Sexism And Abuse In Christian Communities With Dr. Andrew J Bauman 22.08.2025

Brenda J. and Karen B. sit down with Dr. Andrew J. Bauman, a licensed mental health counselor and founder of the Christian Counseling Center: For Sexual Health and Trauma, to discuss his book Safe Church: How to Guard Against Sexism and Abuse in Christian Communities. In this episode, Andrew shares part of his own story and what led him to write Safe Church. He talks about how the church has faile...

#216 Real Talk: The Religion Business-Unfiltered Reactions With Jessica And Mandy Part 3 15.08.2025

Docuseries and app Now Available! For a discount click: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42 In this powerful and unfiltered episode Brenda J and Karen B are joined by two special guests, Jessica and Mandy, for an honest discussion reflecting on Episodes 1 through 4 of the explosive new docuseries, The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath, which premiered July 10th. Together...

#215 Real Talk: The Religion Business-Unfiltered Reactions With Jessica And Mandy Part 2 08.08.2025

Docuseries and app Now Available! For a discount click: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42 In this powerful and unfiltered episode Brenda J and Karen B are joined by two special guests, Jessica and Mandy, for an honest discussion reflecting on Episodes 1 through 4 of the explosive new docuseries, The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath, which premiered July 10th. Together...

#214 Real Talk: The Religion Business-Unfiltered Reactions With Jessica And Mandy 02.08.2025

Docuseries and app Now Available! For a discount click: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42 In this powerful and unfiltered episode Brenda J and Karen B are joined by two special guests, Jessica and Mandy, for an honest discussion reflecting on Episodes 1 through 4 of the explosive new docuseries, The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath, which premiered July 10th. Together...

#213 There Is Always Hope: Karen's Exciting Announcement With Brenda J And Karen 26.07.2025

In this inspiring episode, Brenda sits down with Karen for a heartfelt episode that will encourage any woman that has walked through pain, loss, or disappointment. Karen shares a part of her healing journey-and a special announcement that's sure to give hope to anyone. This episode is for every woman who needs a reminder: don't give up. Healing is possible. Your story isn't over. There is always h...

#212 The Religion Business Docuseries: Unpacking Episode 1 With Brenda J And Karen B 19.07.2025

Docuseries and app Now Available! For a discount click: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42 Brenda J and Karen B unpack Episode 1 of the new docuseries, The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath, which premiered on July 10th. In this conversation, they reflect on the key moments, themes, and takeaways from the first episode. They also share their thoughts on the Broken Shephe...

#211 The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath With Nathan Apffel Part 4 10.07.2025

Docuseries and app Now Available! For a discount click: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42 Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. He bought the  domain, The Religion Business, and started asking pastors about their salarie...

#210 The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath With Nathan Apffel Part 3 04.07.2025

For a discount on the docuseries coming July 10th click: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42 Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. He bought the  domain, The Religion Business, and started asking pastors about their salari...

#209 The Religion Business And The Nonprofit Goliath With Nathan Apffel Part 2 27.06.2025

Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. He bought the  domain, The Religion Business, and started asking pastors about their salaries and where their money was going. He started at age 28, and after 12 years of no accountability or transpar...

#208 The Religion Business and the NonProfit Goliath With Nathan Apffel 20.06.2025

For a discount on the docuseries premiering July 10th click: https://www.thereligionbusiness.com/purchase/HOTH42 Brenda J and Karen W interview Nathan Apffel, two time Emmy Award winning film director who is releasing a docuseries called The Religion Business and an app called Broken Shepherds on July 10, 2025. Nathan tells his story of how he grew up attending a Megachurch in California but when...

#34 Understanding Narcissism and Healing From Narcissistic Abuse With Chuck Degroat Part 2 13.06.2025

Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Chuck Degroat, a therapist, professor, spiritual director, and author of When Narcissism Comes to Church. They take a deep dive into understanding narcissism and he explains in detail the difference and importance between being diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and having narcissistic characteristics. They also discuss the healing process for  vic...

#33 Understanding Narcissism and Healing From Narcissistic Abuse With Chuck Degroat 05.06.2025

Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Chuck Degroat, a therapist, professor, spiritual director, and author of When Narcissism Comes to Church. They take a deep dive into understanding narcissism and he explains in detail the difference and importance between being diagnosed with Narcissistic Personality Disorder and having narcissistic characteristics. They also discuss the healing process for vict...

Trailer for Understanding Narcissism and Healing From Narcissistic Abuse 05.06.2025

Sneak peek into episodes 33 and 34 Understanding Narcissism and Healing From Narcissistic Abuse

#30 A Church Called Tov with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer Part 2 30.05.2025

Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer, Authors of A Church Called Tov, Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing. They discuss how their compassion for the Willow Creek and Harvest church abuse victims led them to write the book about a goodness/Tov culture to promote healing. A powerful must listen podcast to inspire a goodness cu...

#29 A Church Called Tov with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer 23.05.2025

Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer, Authors of A Church Called Tov, Forming a Goodness Culture That Resists Abuses of Power and Promotes Healing. They discuss how their compassion for the Willow Creek and Harvest church abuse victims led them to write the book about a goodness/Tov culture to promote healing. A powerful must listen podcast to inspire a goodness cu...

Trailer for A Church Called Tov with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer 23.05.2025

Sneak peak into episodes 29 and 30, A Church called Tov with Scot McKnight and Laura Barringer

#11 Redeeming Power, Understanding Authority and Abuse in The Church, with Dr. Diane Langberg 17.05.2025

Brenda J and Karen Wonder interview Dr. Diane Langberg, author of Redeeming Power. She has been working with trauma and abuse victims for over 40 years and is an internationally recognized psychologist and international speaker. Diane discusses how power can be used for good or evil and explains how abuse victims show courage and are a prophetic voice when they tell the truth. It was an honor to i...

Trailer for Redeeming Power with Dr. Diane Langberg 16.05.2025

Sneak peek into Redeeming Power with Dr. Diane Langberg

#6 Abuse in the Church, The Truth Will Set You Free with Thomas Pryde of Psalm 82 Initiative 08.05.2025

Brenda J and Karen W interview Thomas Pryde of Psalm 82 Initiative. He is a pastor that helps educate church leadership and other pastors on how to respond to abuse in the church. He talks about how to recognize abusers in the church and how to help  victims of abuse as well. Great information you don't want to miss! https://www.psalm82initiative.org https://www.patreon.com/Psalm 82 https://hangin...

Trailer for Episode 6 Abuse In The Church, The Truth Will Set You Free with Thomas Pryde of Psalm 82 Initiative 08.05.2025

Sneak peek into Episode 6 Abuse In The Church, The Truth Will Set You Free with Thomas Pryde of Psalm 82 Initiative.

#85 A Former Abuser's Path To Change, An interview With Steve 02.05.2025

Brenda J and Karen W interview Steve, a former abuser and now Celebrate Recovery leader. Steve is very sensitive to our listeners as he tells his story of how he was abusive. He explains how he called the Domestic Violence Hotline 1-800-799-SAFE to get help to stop abusing others. They guided him with direction and information on counseling and groups as his first step toward real change and stopp...

Trailer for A Former Abuser's Path To Change With Steve 02.05.2025

Sneak peek into episode 85 A Former Abuser's Path To Change With Steve.

#207 Help And Healing Through Harvest Compassion Centers With Nicolee Thompson Part 2 25.04.2025

Brenda J and Karen W interview Nicolee Thompson, CEO/Executive Director of Harvest Compassion Center. Harvest Compassion Centers provide food and clothing banks in the Phoenix area.  Nicolee tells her amazing story that led up to Harvest Compassion Centers and what is unique about them. In this episode, they talk about how you can make a difference in your community and how every little bit helps....

#206 Help and Healing Through Harvest Compassion Centers With Nicolee Thompson 18.04.2025

Brenda J and Karen W interview Nicolee Thompson, CEO/Executive Director of Harvest Compassion Center. Harvest Compassion Centers provide food and clothing banks in the Phoenix area.  Nicolee tells her amazing story that led up to Harvest Compassion Centers and what is unique about them. They discuss statistics of hunger in their community and how they are making a difference in the lives of famili...

#205 The Bully-Proof Blueprint With Candace Shim Part 2 11.04.2025

Brenda J and Karen W interview Candace Shim, LMHC NCC, a dedicated and experienced mental health professional with 28 years of experience as a therapist, and 22 years as a school counselor. Candace is the Author of the Bully-Proof Blueprint, A Parent's Guide.  On this episode, Candace talks about how to help overcome and combat bullying, and gives helpful advice if you are the parent of a bully. S...

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