Passetto
GTM Live
GTM Live is a new evolution of Revenue Vitals by Chris Walker, now hosted by Carolyn Dilks & Trevor Gibson, Co-Founders of Passetto — a part tech, part advisory GTM agency for high-performing B2B SaaS companies. This weekly live show is built for CEOs, CFOs & Revenue Leaders who know the current way GTM is executed & measured is broken, and are ready for something better. We cut through the noise & ditch outdated playbooks. No fluff. No vanity metrics. Just honest, modern conversations about how to track & optimize GTM for what actually matters: unit economics, efficiency & long-term growth.
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Episodes
163 - Rethinking Attribution Using Common Sense | Demand Gen Live S2 x40 07.07.2021 1:10:06
Chris Walker and Megan Bowen got the Demand Gen Live community together again last night to talk through a handful of impactful demand gen topics. They covered: How to build your holistic website funnel (with 50-100x better conversion rates than lead gen), Rethinking attribution using common sense - add these 3 measurement methods to your stack, & How marketing teams can be prepared to capi...
162 - The State of Demand Gen 2021 with Gaetano DiNardi 04.07.2021 1:14:26
Gaetano DiNardi, Head of Growth & Demand Gen at Nextiva, joined Chris in the new podcast studio to talk about the State of Demand Gen in 2021. They covered whether B2B demand gen has gotten easier or harder to execute since last year, demand creation vs. demand capturing, why there's a lot more waste now in B2B and what companies can do about it, marketing ops and of course...SEO. Check ou...
161 - Using Intent to Get Off the MQL Hamster Wheel | DGL Expert Series with Latane Conant 02.07.2021 56:55
Latané Conant, CMO at 6sense, joined us for a Demand Gen Live Expert Series yesterday to talk about the dark funnel and how to use intent as a trigger for outbound as a means of getting off the MQL hamster wheel.
160 - A New Marketing Model for Enterprise Software | Demand Gen Live S2 x39 30.06.2021 1:24:56
Chris Walker and Megan Bowen hosted another Demand Gen Live community event this week. They covered three pre-set agenda topics: (1) The Demand Waterfall: Is it time for a new demand model?; (2) The 6 pillars to build your word of mouth strategy; (3) The big problem companies face when only focusing on capturing demand. Chris also opened the stage to a live Q&A and answered questions from the...
159 - The New Rules of Digital Advertising | Norwest Venture Partners 27.06.2021 59:02
Chris Walker joined Norwest Venture Partners for an event called “The New Rules of Digital Advertising.” He shared insights on the gap between leads and revenue, measuring on pipeline and revenue instead of solely on leads, and why measurement and attribution needs to shift in this new era of marketing. He also talked about reverse engineering how marketing got to where it is today and followed up...
158 - Attribution Isn't Always What It Seems | Keynote 25.06.2021 53:27
Chris Walker presented another keynote last week and shared his demand generation framework. Main takeaways: Word of mouth drives most B2B buying decisions today The best way to connect with your buyers is through content that resonates with them Attribution isn't always what it seems Content distribution is just as, if not more important, than creation The same team should be responsible for...
157 - The Missing Piece of Product Marketing | Demand Gen Live S2 x38 23.06.2021 51:06
Chris Walker hosted Demand Gen Live last night with MJ Peters as his co-host. They covered pipeline velocity and how to start incorporating that into your primary marketing metrics, the missing piece of product marketing, and building a community vs. building a following. Chris also answered questions about whether or not brand and demand should be separate functions in an organization, leveraging...
156 - Why Marketing Is Just Sales At Scale | Christopher Lochhead 20.06.2021 53:14
Christopher Lochhead, Author of Play Bigger and Host of the Lochhead On Marketing Podcast, joined Chris for an episode of State of Demand Gen. They shared insights on category design, what makes a legendary marketer, and why marketing is just sales at scale. Lochhead shared his thoughts and examples on why categories make brands as well as how to understand if a company really gets marketing. Dis...
155 - The Dark Funnel | Demand Gen Live Keynote 18.06.2021 58:17
Chris Walker hosted a European time zone-friendly episode of Demand Gen Live yesterday where he delivered a keynote on the Dark Funnel. He explained what the Dark Funnel is and what marketers can do to capture the attention of their buyers in the places and ways in which they ACTUALLY buy. He opened up the stage to a live Q&A after the keynote and answered questions about non-conversion-based...
154 - How to Measure the Impact of Brand | Demand Gen Live S2 x37 16.06.2021 1:14:01
Chris Walker hosted this week's Demand Gen Live from his new Boston podcast studio. The agenda consisted of: Why Marketing Teams Should Move to a Holistic Website-Sourced Funnel, Crash course: Revenue Ops for Marketers, and How to Measure the Impact of Brand. He answered questions from the audience in regards to freeing your marketing team from attribution, the dark funnel, pipeline marketing...
153 - The Importance of Brand in Hitting Pipeline Goals | Tom Wentworth 12.06.2021 45:36
Tom Wentworth, CMO at Recorded Future, joined Chris for a podcast episode last week. They discussed what happens when marketers make the shift from optimizing for leads to optimizing for pipeline, and Tom shared that getting more leads is not always good for the business. Chris and Tom talked through opportunity costs, the long term implications of optimizing for short-term metrics, the importance...
152 - Performance Marketing vs. Brand Marketing | Demand Gen Live S2 x36 09.06.2021 1:09:13
Chris Walker and Megan Bowen of Refine Labs hosted another Demand Gen Live last night. The agenda consisted of: Performance Marketing vs. Brand Marketing, Why You Don't *Need* SEO in 2021, and How Top Marketers Stay Ahead of the Curve. They also answered live questions about ungating content, adjusting your metrics and how that affects things downstream, the iOS 15 update, prioritization based...
151 - The Marketing "White Space" You Should Be Focusing On | Small Business Consulting Session 06.06.2021 50:30
Chris Walker, CEO at Refine Labs, hosted another small business consulting session where he narrowed in on a company's biggest opportunity to double down their efforts in what he calls the "white space." This is where there's a lot of organic reach and competitors are not executing properly. He also shared his take on their Google Search strategy and how he'd recommend taking...
150 - Prioritizing Your Career Path As A Marketer | Dave Gerhardt 04.06.2021 53:57
Chris Walker went live yesterday with Dave Gerhardt, CMO at Privy, to have a discussion around the topic of how to prioritize your career path as a marketer. They talked through why it isn't necessary to be an expert at every function within marketing, but to have an understanding of what good looks like in all those functions as well as a broader understanding of how marketing interacts with othe...
149 - The Truth About B2B Influencer Marketing | Demand Gen Live S2 x35 02.06.2021 1:18:50
Last night on Demand Gen Live, Chris and Megan covered the following topics: The truth about influencer marketing that executives need to recognize Relationship building is at the core of B2B influencer marketing The value of user-generated content Great marketing means sales isn’t needed in the same capacity What types of content drive the most engagement Leveraging trade shows in an unconvention...
148 - Making Your Buyer Experience A Key Differentiator | Back to Basics with Christine Leonard 30.05.2021 47:34
Christine Leonard, Director of Marketing Optimization at Amplify, came onto State of Demand Gen for an episode of Back to Basics about marketing optimization and the buyer experience. They touched on how to avoid a leaky funnel by making sure in ICP buyers are being handled appropriately, and how a phenomenal buyer experience can be a differentiator. Chris and Christine went back and forth on why...
147 - Perfection Is The Enemy of Good in Marketing | Kathleen Booth 28.05.2021 51:50
Kathleen Booth, VP of Marketing at clean.io, joined Chris on State of Demand Gen to talk about authenticity in marketing. They discussed how to build leadership's confidence when it comes to experimentation and testing, why a "checking the box" approach to content is a huge missed opportunity, and the nuances between subscription and membership models. Kathleen and Chris shared their...
146 - How Marketers Can Use the Dark Funnel to their Advantage | Demand Gen Live S2 x34 26.05.2021 1:02:06
Gaetano DiNardi (Director of Growth Marketing @ Nextiva) made a surprise appearance on Demand Gen Live with Chris Walker last night. They covered... What The Dark Funnel Is and How Marketers Can Use it to Market Better Issues with Intent Data Marketing Momentum The Importance of Consistency Creating a top 25 marketing podcast Leaning into what you can't measure Compounding gains Distribution s...
145 - Field Marketing is More Than Just Events | Field Marketing Meetup with Nick Bennett 24.05.2021 55:08
Nick Bennett (Director of Account-Based & Field Marketing @ Alyce) brought Chris onto his Field Marketing Meetup to talk about the biggest upcoming opportunities in the field marketing space. They broke down the definition of field marketing and how field marketing tactics move across into demand and product marketing. It's important to note that what field marketing is defined as in one organ...
144 - What B2B Should NOT Take From B2C | Accelerating Value with Mark Stouse 22.05.2021 35:26
Chris joined Mark Stouse on the Accelerating Value podcast to talk about the differences between B2C and B2B, specifically in regards to what B2B companies should unlearn from B2C marketing strategies. They talked about disrupting the “agency” world and why if a marketing agency can’t market themselves that should be a red flag. Chris also shared why churn is a business problem, not a customer suc...
143 - Career Growth & Entrepreneurship | Demand Gen Live S2 x33 19.05.2021 1:33:36
Chris and Megan hosted a special episode of Demand Gen Live last night with the primary focus being career growth and entrepreneurship. Chris kicked off the episode sharing his unconventional career path and how he ended up founding Refine Labs. They followed up with a Q&A where they covered an assortment of topics including: Intent signals How do you keep your strategy moving or know when i...
142 - Starting a Content Strategy from Scratch | Small Business Consulting 15.05.2021 31:28
Chris hosted a consulting call with a one-person marketing team with no budget at a small business. He shared his insights on the best approaches to take, given the inputs, to answer the following question: "If we have certain brands we want to target, what would be the best marketing approach to begin to attract that potential business via our digital marketing channels?"
141 - The Business Rationale Behind Marketing-Sourced Revenue | Demand Gen Live S2 x32 12.05.2021 1:11:34
Chris Walker and Megan Bowen hosted a 1.5 hour-long installment of Demand Gen Live last night. They covered: The business rationale behind why marketing-sourced revenue is a better metric than marketing-influenced revenue Reaching new audiences through podcasting Setting a content strategy with an external SME Striking a balance between providing true value and entertaining in your content strat...
140 - The Consumption of Content is Why You Create It | Back to Basics with Erik MacKinnon 09.05.2021 42:37
Erik MacKinnon hosted this episode of Back to Basics with Chris with the main topic being content creation and distribution. They discussed how an earlier stage company, younger marketer, or a company just running SEO as their content play could go about shifting their focus to creating impactful content. Erik and Chris talked about organizational alignment and why marketers need to focus as much,...
139 - Everything in Marketing Needs to Start with "Why" | Dave Gerhardt 07.05.2021 51:01
Chris Walker kicked off the first event of our recurring series with Dave Gerhardt, CMO at Privy, on the 6th of May and spent an hour covering a handful of different topics. They talked about whether marketing is an art or science (or both), having a pulse on your market, why building brand and creating demand builds businesses, and the impact of positioning your company as the expert in your nich...
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