The Dougy Center
Grief Out Loud
Remember the last time you tried to talk about grief and suddenly everyone left the room? Grief Out Loud is opening up this often avoided conversation because grief is hard enough without having to go through it alone. We bring you a mix of personal stories, tips for supporting children, teens, and yourself, and interviews with bereavement professionals. Platitude and cliché-free, we promise! Grief Out Loud is hosted by Jana DeCristofaro and produced by The Dougy Center for Grieving Children & Families in Portland, Oregon.
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Episodes
Ep. 114: What Does Better Mean? Neil Davis 10.06.2019 22:26
In 2017, pop singer-songwriter Neil Davis , was about to release his second album when his father died suddenly of cardiac arrest. In that moment, everything in Neil's world changed, including his album release plans. A few months ago in March of 2019, Neil released a new single, Not Better , which explores the heartbreak of grief and the questions we are left with when someone dies. Questions abo...
Ep. 113: Young Children & Grief: Mary Plouffe, Ph.D. 30.05.2019 35:17
What do you remember about being 3 1/2? If you're anything like most of us, your memories are hazy. Maybe you have an image of the room you slept in or a vague sense of what it felt like to be hugged by a family member. What you likely don't have are clear, articulated ones of interactions and relationships, the kind that older children, teens, and adults can access when it comes to remembering so...
Ep. 112: A Cinematic Love Story - John & Melissa 20.05.2019 25:03
In Episode 111 we talked with Marie, whose husband Jonathan died suddenly and very unexpectedly from a drug overdose. In this episode we're talking with another young adult whose spouse died, but this time after almost a decade of living with cancer. John and Melissa met back in the 90's and dated for a few years before getting married. For John, this was a relationship like none other. One that w...
Ep. 111: When The Love Of Your Life Dies Of An Overdose - Marie & Jonathan 01.05.2019 29:04
In the summer of 2016, Marie and Jonathan were newly married and living in Brooklyn, NYC. One day in August, Marie flew back from a trip, expecting to find Jonathan waiting for her at the airport. When he wasn't there, she thought it was just the continuation of a conflict they'd had, so she spent the night at her mom's house and headed to their apartment in the morning. What she found when she wa...
Ep. 110: Mindful Photography & Grief - Dr. Jessica Thomas, PhD, LMFT 17.04.2019 23:40
There's nothing like grief to take us completely out of the moment. We get pulled into the past where we try to remember everything we can while also ruminating over what we wish we had said or done differently. At the same time, we leap to the future, anticipating what events will be like without the person we are grieving. Dr. Jessica Thomas, PhD, LMFT , who focused her dissertation research on...
Ep. 109: Motherless Daughters, 25 Years Later - Hope Edelman & Brennan Wood 03.04.2019 36:50
Back before you could ask Google anything from, "What's the best way to clean shower grout?" to "How do I grieve my parent?" when it came to answering these kinds of questions, we turned to bookstores and libraries to search for answers. In the late 1980's and early 1990's, even if you did go looking for information about grief, you'd be more likely to find a dense, clinical textbook than somethin...
Ep: 108: What Does Forgiveness Feel Like? Judith Finneren 27.03.2019 21:26
Judith Finneren's husband Ralph, or Ralphie as she liked to call him, was hit and killed while riding his bike in the summer of 2011. Even when grief and anger are close companions, most of the time there isn't a particular person to blame when someone dies. In Judith's case there was. A young man named Brett who in a moment of distracted driving ended her husband's life. Soon after Ralph's death,...
Ep. 107: Remembrance Wardrobe - Nicole Leslie 22.03.2019 24:53
Sweaters, shoes, a favorite coffee mug, the pen always angled a certain way - items, big and small, form the landscape left behind when someone dies. Nicole Leslie was 15 when her mother died and at first it was too painful to go through her things. A few years later, as she and her sister began the process, Nicole discovered clothing she had never seen her mother wear before. This discovery becam...
Ep. 106: Grief & Anxiety - Claire Bidwell Smith. LCPC 25.02.2019 23:13
When grief enters our world, many of us expect to cry and feel frustrated, but we aren't as prepared for the intense fear and worry that can also be part of loss. Someone being 10 minutes late getting home sparks visions of a car crash or getting a call from the hospital. A random ache or feeling extra tired leaves us thinking we must be dying. Maybe sleep eludes us as we spin over how to do day t...
Ep. 105: Appetizers, Grief, Dessert - The Dinner Party 16.02.2019 22:34
When someone dies, many of the people left behind seek out formal sources of help like a therapist or traditional support group. What happens though when those avenues don't feel like the right fit? This is what Carla Fernandez and Lennon Flowers, co-founders of The Dinner Party, ran into after they both lost a parent to cancer in their early twenties. Since their first gathering in 2010, The Din...
Ep. 104: Grief & Work - Alica Forneret 06.02.2019 28:02
The list of things that are hard to do when you're grieving is long - eating, sleeping, focusing, surface-level chit-chat, remembering where you left your phone, planning for the future, or forgiving yourself for the past. Throw work or school into that mix and it gets really tough to feel like you can show up and function at the same level you're used to. When Alica Forneret went back to work aft...
Ep. 103: Staying Connected In Grief - Allison Gilbert 24.01.2019 26:54
We hear about how powerful and important it can be to keep memories and connection alive with the people we are grieving, but how do we actually do that? Allison Gilbert, Emmy award-winning journalist, speaker, and workshop leader, is the author of numerous books including the groundbreaking, Passed and Present: Keeping Memories of Loved Ones Alive, which outlines 85 creative ways to remember thos...
Ep. 102: The Power Of Storytelling 17.01.2019 20:20
In grief, having the opportunity to tell your story can be vital. Grieving children and adults want the chance to talk about the people they are grieving and express how these losses have altered their lives. StoryCorps , a non-profit working to preserve and share the stories of people from all backgrounds, recently launched a new project in partnership with the New York Life Foundation called Roa...
Ep. 101: Grief, Seven Decades Later 10.01.2019 24:34
What is it like to grieve for a father you know only from stories and photos? In August of 2018, Joy Wallace traveled to Tinian Island to see the place where her father, Kenneth, died when the plane he was flying as a 2nd Lieutenant in the Army Air Corp in World War II crashed. Joy's father died three months before she was born and she grew up with a longing to visit the place where he died. Her t...
Ep. 100: It's A Grief Party! 27.12.2018 17:53
Okay, so it's not really a grief party, but it is Grief Out Loud's 100th episode. When we started this show four years ago in January of 2015, we weren't sure we'd do more than 10 episodes, never mind 100 and we have you, listeners and guests, to thank for helping us reach this milestone. In the past four years, we've had the honor of hosting 99 storytellers - people coming forward with the emotio...
Ep. 99: It's So Much More Than What We Can See - Doreen Wiggins, MD 14.12.2018 28:58
In 2000 Doreen Wiggins, MD began having vivid dreams that her husband was going to die. These dreams, combined with a session with an intuitive healer who confirmed her fears, prompted Doreen, who was already an accomplished surgeon, to seek out training in supporting grieving children. Then in 2009, while skiing in Colorado, her husband died suddenly due to hypertrophic cardiomyopathy. Doreen's f...
Ep. 98: Under Pressure - Holidays & Grief 06.12.2018 26:29
Nothing says end of the year holiday stress like grief. Dougy Center staff member Rebecca Hobbs-Lawrence is back with more great tips on planning for and making your way through the holidays when you and your family are in the midst of grief. We also share some new activities to try that can be done solo or as a family. Downloads to explore: The Gift List article Chef for a Day activity Holiday P...
Ep. 97: An Unexpected Devastation 28.11.2018 23:01
For Camila, death came barreling into her world with zero warning. When she was 21 her world shifted on its axis on an average morning in September. She woke up in the house she shared with her mother in the Bay Area expecting just another day. Then, she went to check on her mother, only to find that she had died in her sleep. There were no warning signs. No indicators that anything was amiss. Her...
Ep. 96: Dear Me, A Mini-Episode 20.11.2018 12:55
November is National Children's Grief Awareness Month and as part of the effort to raise awareness about children's grief, the National Alliance for Grieving Children (NAGC) invited people to write a letter to their younger grieving selves. In this mini-episode, we share two of those letters. One by Brennan Wood, the Executive Director of The Dougy Center, to her 12-year-old self. The second lette...
Ep. 95: Witnessing A Stranger's Death 30.10.2018 24:20
On a random Monday morning in the Bay Area of California, Beth Duckles realized too late that she was in the wrong lane of the highway. A lane that would take her across the Bay Bridge from Oakland to San Francisco. This unexpected trip across the bay bridge would alter Beth's life. Swerving to avoid a parked car, she watched a man walk to the edge of the bridge, climb onto the railing, and step o...
Ep. 94: Conflicted Grief - Jan Canty, PhD 22.10.2018 21:22
When someone dies, we often discover things about them we didn't know before. Those discoveries can range from mundane preferences like realizing your dad didn't love chocolate to huge revelations that alter your entire perspective on the person and the life you shared with them. What author Jan Canty discovered about her husband after he was murdered changed everything and left her shocked and an...
Ep. 93: Grief & Transformation - Phelica Glass, LSCSW 16.10.2018 24:27
What does transformation mean and how does it connect (or not) to grief? How can people make their way into everything that comes with this kind of loss and still keep track of themselves? Phelica Glass is a Licensed Specialist Clinical Social Worker in Topeka, Kansas. In her private psychotherapy practice, Phelica works with children, teens, adults, and families who are facing major life transiti...
Ep. 92: Grief At School 01.10.2018 29:37
As much as schools are places of learning, students don't leave their lives at the door when they enter the building. They bring their whole selves to the classroom, and for many, that includes grief. We talk with school social worker, Kate Sherwood, LCSW, about how to support students and the entire school community when grief shows up. Kate shares ideas for acknowledging grief, notifying the sch...
Ep. 91: What's Changed For Grieving Children? The 1950's 20.09.2018 20:13
In 1955 Jack was ten and living with his mother, who was raising him alone. She and Jack's father adopted him when he was a tiny infant, which meant she was the only mother he knew. Jack's mother and father got divorced when he was really young, so for the most part, she was also his only parent. One night, Jack's mother died suddenly and unexpectedly of a heart attack, leaving him not only in dee...
Ep. 90: What I Needed - Tips From A Grieving Teen 07.09.2018 24:17
Halfway through her junior year of high school, Lily's father died suddenly of a heart attack. In shock and angry about everything that would be different in her life without her father, Lily was devastated. As she made her way into this new landscape of grief, Lily sought to fulfill her father's wish that she do what he didn't have the opportunity to do - graduate high school, attend college, and...
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