Going Thru It

No one was a bigger Knicks fan than our brother Adam. So when the Knicks finally won their first championship in 53 years, there was no way we weren't coming together to celebrate. The Knicks are champions. We still can't quite believe we're typing those words. In this episode, we're talking about a win that felt bigger than basketball. The hope. The city. The joy. A team that truly feels like a f...

Knicks in the Finals…..Cousin Jeff on the mic…..no notes. This week, it’s just Holly and CJ—talking ‘94, Madison Square Garden, and the energy of New York then vs now…..and why this run feels different (in a good way…..and a hard way). We get into family, Syrian grandmothers, busting balls as a love language, and why sports somehow ends up being the glue for everything. And yeah…..we talk about Ad...

There are some people you meet in life who just feel different. Ro is one of them. She came into Adam’s life in 2021, and it’s no surprise she was the one who had his heart. She’s truly one of a kind. Someone special, funny, strong AF… and someone who shows up in a way that changes the people around her. This conversation is about them. How they met, the fun they had, the concerts, the trips and t...

This Friday marks two years of Going Thru It… and it’s Adam’s birthday. So this week, we did what felt right. We sat down with three of the people who knew him best. Christopher Salviano. Zak Kaslow. Jonathan Collazo. Three friends. Three completely different relationships. Three versions of Adam that somehow all feel exactly the same. We talk Jersey childhood memories, Knicks games, college roomm...

No guest. No agenda. Just a long overdue catch-up.  Holly's in Hawaii.... but it's rained nonstop, the power's out and we've somehow been to the movies three times already. We talk Jill's London trip without Luca and what it actually looks like to step back into your "old life."  There's a little bit of everything - plus Survivor chaos, Oscars discourse and why Holly's algorithm is currently all c...

Oscar Sunday is here, and with Jill out, we’re joined by friend, fellow Jersey kid, and Hollywood multi-hyphenate Brett Gursky for Going Thru It ’s official-but-unofficial Oscars episode. We go way back with Brett to our college study abroad days, when we sat at a bar in London pitching movie ideas and talking about moving to LA to work in Hollywood. Somehow, we both actually kind of did. In this...

It’s one of those weeks where the headlines feel uncomfortably close to home. Between James Van Der Beek’s death from colorectal cancer and Eric Dane’s ALS diagnosis, it’s hard not to think about your own health and mortality. So we brought on our friend Mickey Rapkin — journalist, author, former GQ editor, and yes, the guy who wrote Pitch Perfect before it became a major studio franchise. In Augu...

Super Bowl Sunday is an actual holiday in the Shakoor family. This week we’re talking hosting, nostalgia, the collective viewing experience, and why the West Coast kickoff time just hits different. Jill’s back at work with mat leave officially in the rearview mirror and the whiplash is real. Holly starts a writing class and immediately spirals after reading something very personal out loud. Vulner...

We recorded this on January 9th, when things in our world already felt heavy. But by the time this episode airs (January 29th), it somehow feels even heavier… so we’re really grateful for conversations like this one. We’re joined by Sophie Ragir, a coach and creative who’s lived through major loss and came out the other side with a clarity we honestly found inspiring. We talk about grief (the mess...

Christmas in Hawaii was actual magic—rainbows, beach days, family chaos, and a surprise Grandma touchdown. Then came the brutal part: leaving. We talk about why saying goodbye to a trip can feel like grief (even when it’s technically just a vacation) and how different our lives look on the other side of it. We unpack the post-trip comedown, the same-family-different-lives dynamic, and what it look...

It’s our 52nd episode (WHAT?!?)—and our last one of 2025. In this episode, we check in from two very different places: Jill is finally seeing the light at the end of her solo-parenting tunnel, while Holly is just stepping into hers (again). They recap Thanksgiving, debate holiday cards (to send or not to send… also, who cares?), unpack Christmas villages, and revisit family trauma from the HomeGoo...

Life doesn’t give you a map for the moments that matter most - birth, loss, and everything in between. So when Jill had Luca, she called in a professional: postpartum doula and all-around force, Laura Veras. While the term "doula" tends to get thrown around a lot (especially in LA), Laura is special. Her journey to becoming a postpartum healer came at a time in her life when death and birth collid...

This week, we’re joined by Stephanie Wittels Wachs —author of Everything Is Horrible and Wonderful and co-founder/Chief Creative Officer of Lemonada Media (home of her own podcast  Last Day and Wiser Than Me with Julia Louis-Dreyfus ). We talk about losing her brother, Harris Wittels , the anger that showed up early in her grief, and how learning more about addiction as a disease changed everythin...

Bonus Drop! Inspired by our recent conversation with Jenna Sackman, we decided to talk to kids about grief.....so we let Jack and Goldie take the mics for this episode. There are Knicks takes, Uncle Adam memories, and a few surprisingly wise moments we did not see coming. It’s loose, a little chaotic, and extremely on brand. Kids just get it in ways we adults tend to overcomplicate. Connect with U...

We weren’t a therapy family.....until that time we had to be. This week we’re joined by Peace of Mind NYC Founder, Jenna Sackman. Jenna is a holistic and integrative therapist who helped our family through one of the hardest, most complex, and deeply meaningful times of our lives. We talk about family grief, how to talk to kids about loss, and what it means to keep moving forward when someone you...

We are back after Hollys 10 day stint in LA serving as Jill’s Chief of Staff. We catch up on everything from the onboarding process with husbands, inappropriate yet brilliant baby Halloween costumes, to our dad’s unique verbiage surrounding death. We may not have had our A24/Fox Searchlight movie moment this trip, but at least Adam found a way to make sure we knew he was right there with us for it...

In this episode, Holly sits down with her longtime friend, artist and creative Jared Ryan Shaw. Jared and Holly grew up together in Wayne, NJ (07470 YOU KNOW!!), and every time they talk it feels like stepping into a time capsule — from middle school memories to their love of Saved by the Bell. They get into separation anxiety, addiction, and the loss of Jared’s father, and how creativity has wove...

In this special episode of Going Thru It , Jill and Holly connect across coasts on September 11th—two years since losing their brother Adam to colorectal cancer. It’s also their first time recording together since Jill became a mom to her son, Luca Adam, lovingly named in his honor. From solo late-night feedings on one coast to quiet moments of reflection on the other, they share what it feels lik...

What happens when you sit down with your oldest friend...the one who knows your childhood stories as well as you do? In this episode, Holly is joined by Aliza Krivisky, her childhood best friend who grew up Reform Jewish and later found her path in Chabad Lubavitch Judaism. With Jill on baby duty, Aliza was the perfect person to have a meaningful conversation and kibbitz with. Together, they refle...

In this week's episode of Going Thru It, we sit down with our first mother/daughter duo. Rev. Naomi Tutu and her daughter, author and activist Mungi Ngomane. Together, they are a mother and daughter carrying not just their own stories, but the legacy of one of the most influential leaders of our time, Archbishop Desmond Tutu. We talk about what it means to grieve someone who didn’t just belong to...

Two years ago, we were preparing for one of life's hardest moments, the loss of our brother Adam. Now, same time of year, same sort of emotions but this time, we're waiting for a baby to arrive. In this episode we talk about the strange timing of life, how grief and joy keep showing up together and what it's like to be back in a season of anticipation, just for something completely different. Holl...

Summer is here! But the vibes are.... complicated. Holly’s out on the North Fork while Jill’s in LA counting down the final weeks of her pregnancy and things aren’t exactly picture-perfect. Like the wise T Swift once said, “I Can Do It With a Broken Heart,” we talk about how often we find ourselves doing hard things in the middle of emotional chaos… and still managing to show up, smile, and get th...

BONUS DROP! Father’s Day may be over, but we’re not done celebrating our dad — and what better way to honor him than by reading his legendary Yelp reviews out loud? Jack S. has written over 200 passionate, misspelled, and wildly entertaining reviews of just about every place he visits. Whether he’s coining phrases like OTFC (Off The Freakin’ Charts) or signing off with “another one bites the dust,...

We’re kicking off our Sibling Series with a powerful and heartfelt conversation with sisters Caroline and Natalie DeJean. You might remember Caroline from a past episode (celebrity stylist, cool girl, song-of-summer expert), and today she’s joined by her younger sister Natalie as they open up about the loss of their mom, Miss Liz, seven years ago.   This episode dives into all the complexities sur...

One of us may be growing a baby but both of us are still figuring out how to grow around grief. In this episode, we catch up on Jill's third trimester—including her very on-brand babymoon in Hawaii—and talk about what it’s like preparing for new life while still carrying the absence of our brother Adam, something Holly didn’t have to navigate during her own pregnancy. We also touch on the Knicks’...