Going Thru It

Drop your buffs—it’s time for an episode decades in the making. This week, we’re joined by Bianca Maria Asumpte Immaculate Roses (yes, that’s her full legal name, and no, it did not fit on her high school diploma). She’s Jill’s best friend of nearly 30 years, a major PR pro, and now… a freshly torched contestant from Season 48 of Survivor. In this week's episode, we talk all things Fiji, sleep dep...

We were lucky enough to connect with someone who has truly shaped the grief space: Rebecca Soffer, author, community builder, and cofounder of Modern Loss. In this episode, we talk about how Rebecca turned her personal tragedy of losing both of her parents in her early 30s into a movement that normalizes grief in all its messy, complicated glory. From her days producing The Colbert Report to creat...

It’s a big week! The Knicks are in the playoffs, we’re celebrating one year of Going Thru It, and most importantly, we’re honoring our brother Adam on what would have been his 42nd birthday. While one of us is raising a (strong) Orange Jameson in his honor, the other is… not drinking at all, because — BREAKING NEWS — Jill is pregnant! With life comes death, and with death comes rebirth. Through it...

In this episode we catch up on all the chaos and comfort from the past few weeks—birthday bashes, LA adventures, and a whirlwind one-night trip to Vegas. The good news is there is some great culture happening right now to help get us thru it all. With Siblings Day upon us we get real about what this time of year brings up for us. The rush of memories, the weight of time passing since losing Adam,...

When it comes to having a baby, we all know someone who has gone thru it—IVF, IUI, surrogacy, egg and sperm donors, adoption. Parenthood looks different for everyone, and for our guests, Carrie Gordon and Phil Halpert, the road was anything but easy. They’ve faced loss, uncertainty, and grief at every turn—but their story is one of resilience, love, and ultimately, hope. This episode is for anyone...

Colorectal Cancer Awareness Month is here, and it sparks the question: why are SO many young people getting cancer?! TIME Magazine's recent cover story dives deep into this growing crisis, and so do we.....well, in our own way. In this week's episode we try to unpack what is causing this change in trend by breaking down the science, sharing personal stories and talking risk factors and red flags....

In this week's episode, we sit down with author, mother, and fellow podcaster Jessica Fein, whose journey through loss and resilience is deeply meaningful and helpful for anyone going thru it. Jessica has endured the heartbreaking losses of her mother, father, two sisters, and her 17-year-old daughter, Dalia—each shaping her understanding of grief, love, and the strength it takes to keep moving fo...

We've always called this time of year the 'dark ages,' and honestly, reality is proving us right—so we’re leaning in. In this week’s episode, we welcome Jill back and catch up on all things 2025. From cities burning to shake-ups in the White House to the never-ending seasonal illnesses (seriously, why won’t they leave?), we cover it all. Sounds a little bleak? Maybe… but as always, we find reasons...

Collective grief is the shared experience of loss or change that impacts a group, community, or even an entire nation. It can be sparked by war, natural disasters, or the passing of a public figure. One month after the devastating Los Angeles fires, the grief remains, even as the city begins to rebuild. In this episode, Holly sits down with her friend and fellow New Yorker-turned-Angeleno, Micki M...

We recorded this episode on Sunday, January 5th. Three days after Jill's 34th birthday and two days before so many lives were forever changed with the devastating fires in Los Angeles, a place we both call, or have called, home. We’re thinking of the amazing LA community and all those affected by the ongoing fires during this devastating time. Our heart goes out to this city we love so much. And w...

In the words of the great Cosmo Kramer, "Festivus is for those who want to escape the stress of traditional holiday cheer and embrace the absurdity of life." We seem to have really leaned into that notion. Drones, anyone? In this week's episode, we catch up with each other as the clock inches closer to Christmas—and, well, we're still not that psyched. Holly's tree is officially dead, and Jill can...

The holiday season is upon is, and our inner Depressica Simpson is in full force. We know this is supposed to be a joyous time, but honestly, we are just NOT feeling it. Join us this week as we reflect on our recent Thanksgiving holiday and navigate the challenges of coping without our better third, Adam. We also reminisce on past holiday memories, including, but not limited to, losing fake IDs at...

Happy Thanksgiving! Thanksgiving can be tough for families for a multitude of reasons. But Thanksgiving off the heels of an election can be an entirely different story. And if you come from a politically divided family, like we do, it's not always that easy to navigate. No one understands unconditional family love during divided times better than the Laub family. We sat down with famed artist and...

A widower has lost a spouse, an orphan has lost their parents, but what do you call someone who has lost a sibling? Oh, right — there’s no word for that. This week, we have the pleasure of connecting with cultural researcher, writer and storyteller Annie Sklaver Orenstein, author of Always A Sibling. After Annie’s brother Ben was tragically killed by a suicide bomber in Afghanistan, she found hers...

They say the influences of a great teacher can never be erased. And with that, we're honored to share with you the wit, wisdom and super soul vibe that is Marcia Meade aka The Chocolate Princess. A classically trained ballet and contemporary dancer and truly one of Brooklyn's finest, Marcia has made it her mission to bring Pilates to the people. As a certified instructor and life coach, she has th...

It’s been two years to the week that Adam received his cancer diagnosis that changed the course of his life forever. Listen as we catch up and reflect on what that time was like for all of us.  Speaking of siblings, we’d be remiss not to discuss the recent flux of siblings on television lately. And surprise! Holly is heading to Abu Dhabi with her dad for a pilgrimage to the Middle East. Let’s hope...

Spiritual goddess, intuitive healer, expert in mediumship, traveler extraordinaire, creative director and photographer, these are just a few hats our guest Taryn Weitzman wears. Also helming from Wayne, NJ, and later finding her way to Los Angeles, Taryn has been divinely connected to us since her and Holly met in middle school in the early 90's. We were lucky enough to catch up with an old friend...

How does one spend the one-year anniversary of their brother's passing? We didn't know either, but we got thru it. From negotiating with a crypt keeper to over-indulging in cheap wine, we reflect on the ways we spent this September 11th honoring Adam. It wasn’t conventional, but it filled with love and an immense amount of gratitude. Join us as we recount a day that may have been messy and unpredi...

It's been one year since Adam took his last breath on September 11th, 2023. Join us this week for an intimate and raw conversation with our dad, Jack Shakoor, aka "The Pop". It isn't easy for a father to look back and reflect on his role as a dad, and we are so grateful for the honesty and authenticity that came out of this conversation. Real talk, it may be the most we've gotten out of him our wh...

How do you say grief in French? Le chagrin of course. This week, Holly joins Jill from her family's trip to France and the sisters connect over le chagrin they are each experiencing with summer coming to an end and the looming, anticipatory chagrin as they get even closer to the one year anniversary of Adam's passing. Being so far apart, they are reminded of their own family trip to Paris back in...

As the one year anniversary of Adam’s passing approaches, Holly and Jill look back at some of the different ways they tried to show up for Adam – even if they ultimately ended up at net-zero. They also reflect on their conversation with Jakki & Kasey, talk Era’s, and even compare themselves to Henry Hill peak breakdown. Some may liken this to Breaking Bad’s famed bottle episode “Fly” – minimal act...

“Not everything that can be faced can be changed, but nothing can be changed until it’s faced.” - James Baldwin  Holly + Jill have talked a lot about their transformative work with Well Soul and in this episode, they sit down with the founders of the Well Soul community, Kasey Crown and Jakki Leonardini to reflect on what this past year has meant to them.  With their individual backgrounds and wor...

No guests? No problem. August is here and the end of summer is near. In this week's episode, Holly and Jill reflect on this time last year, which was also their last month with their brother Adam. 

To quote Real Housewives of NJ star Caroline Manzo, "Life is about change, sometimes you just have to roll with the punches." This week Holly and Jill are joined by their friend Dave Daly to talk about family lineage, traditions and changes, their shared love of summertime out east and their most recent 4th of July bender. And yes, they'll weigh in on the song of summer, the Eras tour and RHONJ co...

You hear her name weekly as she is the Rick Rubin to our pod so this week Holly and Jill sit down with their award winning producer, Alexandra Zaslow aka 'Zas.' This is a special conversation because we got to honor her incredible father, Jeffrey Zaslow. Besides being a Michigan legend, Jeff was an award winning journalist, NY Times best selling author, son, husband and the ultimate girl dad. A no...