Myron Steeves and Martin Isreb
Getting Wisdom
A podcast for thoughtful Christians seeking timeless wisdom in the words of Scripture and the Church Fathers. Hosts Myron Steeves and Martin Isreb offer calm, reverent conversation on classical theology, philosophy, and Christian living. "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding."—Proverbs 4:7 Visit www.gettingwisdom.org for show notes & reference guides.
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Jun 25, 2026
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Episodes
Grave Among Grave Men 25.06.2026 1:23:16
Myron and Martin reflect on why the Christian life is not necessarily materially easier than any other life and discuss a civility rule about matching one’s tone to the occasion. They read Aquinas on corporeal creation and Calvin on the order of the Trinity. “We must not suppose that this corporeal matter serves the angels at their nod, but rather that it obeys God’s.” —St. Augustine, cited in Sum...
A Pleasant Countenance 12.05.2026 1:21:01
Myron and Martin reflect on the Good Samaritan and the command to love God with heart, soul, strength, and mind. They discuss grand Dallas hotels, civility in countenance and conduct, and read Aquinas and Calvin on demons, pride, and eternal divinity of the Son. “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind.” —Luke 10:...
My Redeemer Liveth 07.05.2026 1:07:11
Myron and Martin argue that Christian maturity comes not from waiting for divine hints but from exercising wisdom under God’s rule. They discuss civility around privacy in public spaces, visit New York City’s High Line Park, and turn to Aquinas on angels, beatitude, and the distinct glory of human beings choosing to worship God. “For I know that my redeemer liveth, and that he shall stand at the l...
Conviviality 10.04.2026 1:00:56
Myron and Martin discuss Jordan Peterson's 12 Rules for Life and the norms regarding faith-centered dialogue with friends and strangers. In today's readings, Aquinas reflects on angelic knowledge, while Calvin writes on imagery and the hazards of idolatry in worship. "For when once men imagined that they beheld God in images, they also worshipped him as being there." —Calvin'...
Divided Attention 24.03.2026 1:21:07
Myron and Martin reflect on the erosion of family-centered wisdom before turning to modern challenges of civility in conversation, a roadside look at Baylor’s origins, Aquinas on angels and the limits of their knowledge, and Calvin on the dangers and distortions of religious imagery. " Show the things that are to come here after, and we shall know that you are Gods." —Isaiah 41:23 04:31...
Seven Kinds of Prayer 17.03.2026 56:56
In this first episode of Season Three, Myron and Martin reflect on types of prayer, a civility rule on distraction and electronic interruptions, and a closing meditation on Calvin’s vision of creation as a summons to rejoice. "There is not one blade of grass, there is no color in this world that is not intended to make us rejoice." —John Calvin, Sermon No. 10 on 1 Corinthians 01:20 Openi...
Forge of Idols 27.01.2026 1:31:02
In this final episode of Season 2, Myron and Martin reflect on the formation of Christian ethics while reading Aquinas on angels and the immaterial order and Calvin on images, idolatry, and the unseen nature of God. "The human mind is, so to speak, a perpetual forge of idols." —Calvin's Institutes , 1.11.8 01:02 Opening Reflections: Christian ethics 25:11 Roadside Attractions: San Di...
Persona Non Grata: Donors and Dissidents in the Ivy League 20.01.2026 1:15:12
In this guest episode, Myron and Martin are joined by Cornell alumnus Carl Neuss, who recounts his shift from major donor to organized opposition of institutional capture. He describes how ideological drift, donor leverage, media exposure, and external pressure converged to challenge the university’s departure from free speech, Western tradition, and Christian foundations. Cornell Free Speech Alli...
High Station 14.01.2026 1:21:01
Myron and Martin reflect on the modern expectation of “knowing God’s will,” arguing that Christian maturity consists not in waiting for divine signals but in exercising wisdom, agency, and judgment—before turning to civility across social ranks, Aquinas on good and evil, and Calvin on Scripture’s testimony to the one true God. "For I know that my redeemer liveth" —Job 19:25 03:19 Opening Reflectio...
Rightly Ordered 06.01.2026 1:19:38
Myron and Martin reflect on Christian time management as an ordering of life toward worship, work, and virtue. Today’s civility discussion balances flattery and sincerity. In the readings, Aquinas turns to the procession of all creation from God, while Calvin defends Scripture’s credibility through prophecy, history, and witness. "All beings apart from God are not their own being, but are beings b...
The Klappvisier Principle 30.12.2025 57:19
Myron and Martin return to the topic of growth in knowledge and curiosity and discuss dining etiquette. In today’s readings, Aquinas wrestles with the ineffable mystery of the Trinity, while Calvin highlights how Scripture’s long-fulfilled promises reveal its divine authorship. "When David is anointed by Samuel, what apparent ground is there for the transference? Who could have looked for a king o...
Tithing Your Time 23.12.2025 1:04:57
Myron and Martin reflect on tithing time with intention. They discuss another of George Washington's Rules of Civility—this one on pointing, crossing legs, and fidgeting. In today’s readings, Aquinas offers a dense meditation on the nature of the Trinity, while Calvin affirms Scripture’s divine authority through its revelation to undistinguished observers. "[Moses] remaining there forty days separ...
Fellowship, These Days 16.12.2025 51:54
Myron and Martin reflect on honoring God through daily choices, the value of wisdom earned over time, and resisting modern distractions that erode purpose and friendship. In today’s readings, Aquinas explores the language of the Trinity, while Calvin defends the role of Holy Spirit in affirming Scripture. "The Spirit is called an earnest and seal to confirm the faith of the godly." – Institutes ,...
What Angels Cannot Do 09.12.2025 1:07:54
Myron and Martin reflect on the freedom God gives us to choose well—or poorly. In today’s readings, Aquinas examines the name “Father” as a personal name of God, while Calvin affirms that Scripture reveals God more clearly than any other source. Today's roadside attraction is a beignet café in New Orleans, and today's civility rule addresses the subtle etiquette of accepting an invitation to stay...
Unenviable Circumstances 02.12.2025 49:13
Myron and Martin explore the relationship between free will and divine providence, how worship can deepen through suffering, and the quiet blessings we overlook in daily life. In today's readings, Calvin urges us to begin with Scripture to know God rightly, while Aquinas reflects on Christ as the eternal Word. "For not only does faith, full and perfect faith, but all correct knowledge of God, orig...
Spectacles and Scripture 25.11.2025 25:10
Myron and Martin return with a mini episode today, reflecting on a volcanic national park and the usual readings. Aquinas explores the personal name of God as Father, while Calvin considers how Scripture illuminates Him. "So Scripture, gathering together the impressions of Deity, which, till then, lay confused in our minds, dissipates the darkness, and shows us the true God clearly." — Institutes...
Latecomers 19.11.2025 58:08
In this episode, Myron and Martin take a break from the Aquinas and Calvin readings to reflect on discernment and etiquette. They discuss the temptation to leave difficult decisions up to God, the social customs of sitting and standing, and how structured traditions can relieve anxiety rather than add to it. "Grant us, in all our doubts and uncertainties, the grace to ask what you would have us to...
Is Authenticity a Virtue? 11.11.2025 52:05
Myron and Martin reflect on curiosity as virtue and temptation, the tension between novelty and wisdom, and the anxiety of post-Christian culture. In today’s readings Aquinas examines the procession of divine persons within the Trinity and Calvin explores the insufficiency of creation to reveal God fully. "How few of us are there who, in lifting our eyes to the heavens, or looking abroad on the va...
The Book of Life 04.11.2025 44:08
Myron and Martin discuss the church’s proper relationship to politics and continue their study of Aquinas and Calvin—covering the Book of Life, the power of God, and how creation itself testifies to the divine. "Can any thing be more detestable than this madness in man, who, finding God a hundred times both in his body and his soul, makes his excellence in this respect a pretext for denying that t...
Right Hand of the Father 28.10.2025 1:02:08
Martin and Myron explore eschatology, the humanity of Christ, and the doctrine of predestination, while offering a grounded reminder of the hope Christians have in the bodily resurrection. "Predestination is not anything in the predestined; but only in the person who predestines." — Summa Theologica , Prima Pars, Q23 01:55 Opening Reflections: Eschatology & physicality 26:46 Roadside Attractio...
Out of Print 21.10.2025 1:06:31
Myron and Martin reflect on the wisdom of the past, a long walk down the Orange County coastline, and address an etiquette conundrum: the use of titles in social address. In today’s readings, Aquinas explores divine providence, and Calvin reflects on the clarity of God's creation. "The Lord wraps himself in light as with a garment." — Psalm 104:2 02:06 Opening Reflections: Looking to the past 25:1...
Beauty, Civility, and Other Things of the Past 14.10.2025 1:13:58
Myron and Martin reflect on aesthetics, justice, and manners in a world shaped by novelty and transgression, grounding their conversation in classical virtues, theology, and the transcendent beauty of God. "The work of divine justice always presupposes the work of mercy; and is founded thereupon." — Summa Theologica , Prima Pars, Q21 00:34 Opening Reflections: Beauty in the post-Christian world 27...
God, By Whom the Meek are Guided 07.10.2025 52:43
Myron and Martin explore how God leads us—challenging the popular idea that divine direction always comes through personal signs—and instead highlight wisdom, community, and Scripture as the ordinary means of discerning God’s will. They reflect on the nature of God’s justice and mercy in Aquinas and the authority of Scripture in Calvin. “Mercy does not destroy justice, but in a sense is the fullne...
Temperate in Reprimand 30.09.2025 1:00:11
Myron and Martin reflect on hiking etiquette, the marvel of God’s image in humanity, and offer a book recommendation and the next rule of civility. In today’s readings, Aquinas teaches that love is found in God’s will, and Calvin argues that the authority of Scripture rests not on the Church, but on the Holy Spirit. "My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?" —Psalm 22:1 03:38 Opening Reflections...
Discipline and Distraction 23.09.2025 54:16
Myron and Martin take a thoughtful detour from Aquinas and Calvin to reflect on the long walk of wisdom—exploring how habit, curiosity, and introspection shape a virtuous life in a culture that idolizes ease and novelty. "Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind." – Romans 12:2 02:44 Roadside attraction: Laguna Beach walk 20:24 Curiosity, habit, distraction...
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