Myron Steeves and Martin Isreb
Getting Wisdom
A podcast for thoughtful Christians seeking timeless wisdom in the words of Scripture and the Church Fathers. Hosts Myron Steeves and Martin Isreb offer calm, reverent conversation on classical theology, philosophy, and Christian living. "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding."—Proverbs 4:7 Visit www.gettingwisdom.org for show notes & reference guides.
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Jun 25, 2026
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Episodes
Lead Us Not into Temptation 16.09.2025 1:09:04
Myron and Martin reflect on Samson and temptation, a hike through Trabuco Canyon, the enduring value of wisdom over novelty, and a surprising roadside attraction: the Colorado River Inspection Tour. In today’s readings, Aquinas explores God’s will to permit evil, and Calvin turns to Psalm 19 to show how Scripture completes what creation begins. "The law of the Lord is perfect, converting the soul:...
Corn Maze Wisdom 09.09.2025 53:30
Myron and Martin reflect on wisdom that comes with age, the resolution to pursue excellence, and a new roadside attraction: the Frederick Douglass House in Washington, D.C. In today’s readings, Calvin urges Scripture as our reliable guide beyond nature, and Aquinas explores the will of God. "How prone the human mind is to lapse into forgetfulness of God, how readily inclined to every kind of error...
Chronological Snobbery 02.09.2025 1:03:14
Myron and Martin discuss the nature of God’s leading, St. Augustine’s Advent homilies, and Washington, D.C.’s little-known C&O Canal. In today’s reading, Calvin writes on the necessity of Scripture to ground our knowledge of God. "It is impossible for any man to obtain even the minutest portion of right and sound doctrine without being a disciple of Scripture." — Institutes , 1.6.2 02:09 Openi...
Discernment and Civility 26.08.2025 54:27
Myron and Martin discuss God's leading through trials, civility rules for the dining table, and the Theodore Roosevelt Memorial in Washington, D.C. In today's chapters, Calvin writes on the need for scripture to understand God while Aquinas writes on the relationship of God to life. “All things in Him are the divine life itself.” — Summa Theologica, Prima Pars, Q18 00:35 Opening Reflections: Disce...
Gold or Tin? 19.08.2025 45:49
In this first episode of Season 2, Myron and Martin reflect on the virtues of peacemaking and curiosity and discuss today's roadside attraction: a seminary in Wisconsin older than the state itself. They continue to study John Calvin and Thomas Aquinas, exploring how God reveals Himself through creation and truth. "Those external accidents, which resemble things other than themselves, are...
Vintage Technology 12.08.2025 1:20:30
In this final episode of Season 1, Myron and Martin discuss old methods of communication and the question of predestination. In our readings for this week, John Calvin critiques the folly of the wise in missing God’s handiwork, while Thomas Aquinas considers the nature of truth itself and its grounding in God. “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.&...
Ordinary Blessings 05.08.2025 39:13
In this episode, Myron and Martin reflect on divine providence and the many failings of human perception. John Calvin reminds us how blind we can be to God's glory, while Thomas Aquinas walks us through the nature of divine ideas. "How few of us are there who, in lifting our eyes to the heavens, or looking abroad on the various regions of the earth, ever think of the Creator?" — Institutes (1.5.11...
The Anti-Therapeutic Church 29.07.2025 35:50
Myron and Martin discuss the modern church’s therapeutic tendencies in light of Ephesians 3, reflect on the devotional value of worship when we're not in the mood, and explore themes of divine justice and omniscience in Calvin and Aquinas. "God knows contingent things not successively, as they are in their own being, as we do but simultaneously." — Summa Theologica , Prima Pars, Q14 00:42 Opening...
The Drowning Pigeon 22.07.2025 1:06:03
From Rudyard Kipling to General Patton to John Calvin, this episode traces the virtues of fortitude and faith amid modern distractions. "The knowledge of God which we are invited to cultivate is not that which, resting satisfied with empty speculation, only flutters in the brain, but a knowledge which will prove substantial and fruitful wherever it is duly perceived." — Institutes (1.5.9) 00:24 If...
A Preacher on Bourbon Street 15.07.2025 40:25
Myron and Martin reflect on New Orleans hotels, history, and street preaching. They have a conversation about Calvin’s view of divine providence—God’s care revealed through timely blessings—and Aquinas’s account of God’s perfect knowledge as the cause and comprehension of all things. "God, in a wondrous manner, often brings sudden and unexpected succour to the miserable when almost on the brink of...
Too Noble for Anger 08.07.2025 44:13
Myron and Martin explore Calvin’s reflections on God's blessings in hardship, examine Aquinas’s teaching on God’s name as “He Who Is,” and introduce the first of Myron’s thirty-one life principles: to be too large for worry, too noble for anger, too strong for fear. "He is the protector, and even the avenger of innocence, by shedding blessings on the good, helping their necessities, soothing and s...
Creation As Proof 01.07.2025 42:37
Myron and Martin reflect on customs and civility, then turn to John Calvin and Thomas Aquinas for insights on how creation reveals God's power and how the human intellect is illumined to know Him. "By this light the blessed are made 'deiform'—i.e. like to God, according to the saying: 'When He shall appear we shall be like to Him, and we shall see Him as He is' (1 John 3:2)." — Summa Theologica ,...
Stamp of Immortality 24.06.2025 40:52
Myron and Martin conclude their series on Christian living with a conversation about proclaiming the gospel in today’s cultural landscape. They also reflect on John Calvin’s argument for the soul’s divine origin and Thomas Aquinas’s teaching on the unity of God. "Man bears about with him a stamp of immortality which can never be effaced." — Institutes , 1.5.5 00:48 Opening Reflections: Proclamatio...
Evangelism in the Florida Keys 17.06.2025 1:03:14
Myron and Martin welcome guest Bill Welzien to share stories from nearly four decades of street preaching in the Florida Keys, his marathon swims around Key West, and reflections on gospel witness in an increasingly secular age. 03:13 Swimming in the Florida Keys 20:24 Street preaching in Mallory Square 26:00 Evangelism over time 37:31 Four major worldview questions 44:58 J. Sidlow Baxter 55:40 Cl...
Across the Ages 13.06.2025 1:02:12
Martin and Myron reflect on cultivating wisdom across life stages, career changes, and asking for advice. They discuss Calvin’s writing on the human body and mind as evidence of God’s design and Aquinas's teachings on the nature of God's eternity. "Can any thing be more detestable than this madness in man, who, finding God a hundred times both in his body and his soul, makes his excellence in this...
Man as Microcosm 06.06.2025 57:49
Martin and Myron discuss joy as an aspect of Christian living, the church’s role in public life and politics, and the curious unincorporated community of Amboy, CA. They continue their discussion of John Calvin and Thomas Aquinas with reflections on human nature as evidence of God’s design and on God’s immutability. "Certain of the philosophers have not improperly called man a microcosm (miniature...
Cultural Erosion and Revival 03.06.2025 59:51
We explore the battle over children’s books in public schools, the boundaries of free speech and how cultural shifts are eroding civil values. Featuring reflections on Calvin, Aquinas and the pursuit of wisdom. "In attestation of his wondrous wisdom, both the heavens and the earth present us with innumerable proofs." — Institutes , I.5.2 00:27 Opening Reflections: Free speech 11:20 Congress 17:21...
Courage to Question with Dr. Hoby Wedler 20.05.2025 48:14
In this final part of our conversation with Dr. Hoby Wedler, we explore objective truth, scripture, and the moral questions that often divide us—including those surrounding homosexuality and alcohol. We reflect on how upbringing and technology shape the way we see the world, and why honest, respectful conversation remains essential in times of rapid change.
Memory and Faith with Dr. Hoby Wedler 30.04.2025 1:01:55
Dr. Hoby Wedler, a PhD chemist and entrepreneur, joins us to explore how creativity, technology, and mentorship can reshape limitations into strengths. We discuss accessible innovation, the impact of AI on communication and learning, and the role of sensory design in business. From his work in chemistry and inclusive branding to his reflections on faith and purpose, Dr. Wedler offers insight into...
Academia, Technology & Mentorship with Dr. Hoby Wedler 23.04.2025 37:27
Dr. Hoby Wedler—chemist, entrepreneur, and accessibility advocate—kicks off a three-part series on turning life’s constraints into innovation. Join us as we dig into the mindsets that fuel wisdom.
Wisdom, Faith & Calling: A Conversation with Michael Schutt 04.02.2025 1:00:22
In this special episode, Myron Steeves talks with Michael Schutt, author of Redeeming Law , to explore wisdom, faith, and calling. They discuss how work shapes us, the books that shift perspectives, and why true wisdom requires community. We hope you enjoy this thought-provoking conversation.
From Ranches to Reason: Working Hard and Seeking God 10.12.2024 1:14:32
In this episode of Getting Wisdom, Martin Isreb and Myron Steeves delve into the profound connections between work, maturity, and the pursuit of God. Drawing from personal stories, philosophical insights, and theological reflections, they explore how early responsibilities—like working on family ranches—build character and wisdom. The episode also examines John Calvin's passionate arguments ab...
Truth in a Secular World 07.11.2024 40:50
This week's episode of Getting Wisdom we dive into the contemporary struggle of the modern evangelical church as it seeks harmony in an increasingly secular world. Revisiting foundational texts from Calvin’s Institutes of the Christian Religion and Aquinas’s Summa Theologica, they explore why metaphors in Scripture are vital, the implications of truth as a self-evident principle, and the cultural...
Grow Up: Embracing Wisdom and Maturity 22.05.2024 46:47
Exploring the importance of growing up and embracing maturity as part of the pursuit of wisdom. Reflections on the Baby Boomer generation's impact on societal values, contrasting the idealization of youth with the benefits of adulthood. Discussion on the relevance of ancient texts like Homer's "Odyssey," the significance of religious belief in personal contentment, and the pitfalls of contemporary...
Traditions and Theology 08.05.2024 55:26
Explore the interplay between cultural customs and divine wisdom in this episode of "Getting Wisdom." The discussion centers on the philosophical significance of customs in shaping identity, paired with an analysis of John Calvin's and Thomas Aquinas's theological insights. Delve into how traditions influence personal growth and community cohesion, and how they relate to deeper t...
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