Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley
Gender: A Wider Lens
In this podcast, now in its fourth year, therapists Stella O'Malley and Sasha Ayad take a deep dive into the psychological and cultural forces impacting the social changes around "gender." Through interviews with researchers, doctors, therapists, parents, detransitioners, and others, Sasha and Stella's podcast is a "must listen" for anyone trying to navigate the current gender landscape. With their sharp analytical minds and deep compassionate hearts, Stella and Sasha have also become known throughout many parent networks as lighthouses in the midst of some very stormy seas. Previous guests in...
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Feb 25, 2025
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Episodes
Premium: My Child's Online Behavior is Appalling 24.06.2022 14:11
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74 - Detransition - Part 1: Going Back & Moving Forward 17.06.2022 1:06:19
In today’s episode, Stella and I begin our discussion of detransition. This is an incredibly rich, important, and complex topic, and we certainly don’t think we can lift up EVERY aspect of it. But in this episode, and episode 76 (the one after next), we’ll begin to explore detransition. Today, you’ll hear our initial observations and some random musings. We touch on some of the patterns and dynami...
Premium: Why Don't Kids Desist from Puberty Blockers? 17.06.2022 13:45
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Premium: My Son's Trans ID Could be Motivated by Sex 10.06.2022 13:44
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73 - Shame, Narcissism, and the Transition Fantasy w/ Joe Burgo 10.06.2022 58:31
Joe Burgo is a clinical psychologist and psychoanalyst who’s been in practice for almost 40 years. He also writes books for a popular audience mostly focused on shame and narcissism. In this episode Joe explains how a sense of shame can be a root cause of gender dysphoria and how gender transition can be idealized as a “cure” for all kinds of shame – gay shame, outsider shame, survivor of sexual a...
Premium: Estranged From My Adult Child 03.06.2022 14:11
Here's the book Stella talked about: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Memoirs-of-an-Unfit-Mother/Anne-Robinson/9780743448987 This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com
72 - Disenchanted by Transition 03.06.2022 1:01:49
This episode was made especially for anybody who might feel a sense of regret or anxiety about their medical transition. This does not mean they should necessarily detransition. Rather, it means that they are undergoing a reckoning with themselves. While some people choose to detransition, others are deeply ambivalent about transition but may feel they are “at a point of no return” and choose to r...
Premium: I Think My Child is Desisting 27.05.2022 12:22
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71 - Gender: The American State of Affairs with Jesse Singal 27.05.2022 59:53
Jesse Singal was instrumental in shining a light on the defamation of Dr. Ken Zucker in 2016. Then, two years later, he became even more widely known in the gender world for his seminal, long-form piece in the Atlantic, “When a Child Says She’s Trans.” In this conversation, we discuss flaws in the science of gender dysphoria treatment and the misrepresentation of research findings in the media. We...
Premium: A College Student Asks About Medicalizing Distress 20.05.2022 14:41
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70 - We're Back! — Parents Lost in a Medical Scandal 20.05.2022 1:01:37
We’re back! Sasha and Stella update listeners with how they’ve spent their six-week break and jump right into discussing the plight of parents whose kids are experiencing gender distress. The first-ever in-person Wider Lens retreat for parents was held in Maryland in March 2022. This was a profound experience for the attendees and also for Sasha and Stella, who reflect today upon the common themes...
Premium: What Do Kids Mean When They Say "Gender Dysphoria"? 13.05.2022 11:34
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Premium: The Highly Compliant ROGD Child 06.05.2022 11:44
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Premium: Internalized Transphobia 29.04.2022 12:00
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Premium: Breast Hatred & Body Dysmorphia 21.04.2022 12:22
Here are some accompanying resources: Befriending Your Body (Book) This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.widerlenspod.com
Premium: Power Struggles 15.04.2022 11:27
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Premium: Culturally Bound Syndromes 08.04.2022 12:21
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Premium: What Does the Pioneer Series Have to do with ROGD? 01.04.2022 13:48
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69 - Pioneers Series: Post-Series Analysis & Break! 01.04.2022 1:05:49
We have completed eleven interviews and today we analyze the second half of our Pioneers Series. Stella and I discuss the psychological and emotional impact of some recent interviews. We review the shocking discussions we’ve had with several of our guests and reflect on the flawed Dutch Protocol, which is often held up as the gold standard in childhood dysphoria medical treatment. Dr. Anne Lawrenc...
Premium: Bullying 25.03.2022 13:25
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68 - Pioneers Series: Cultural Misunderstandings with Paul L. Vasey 25.03.2022 1:03:21
This is the last episode in our pioneers series and the second interview with Dr. Paul Vasey. If you haven’t heard our conversation with Paul in episode 57, I recommend you go back and listen to that one first, as we build upon many of the ideas we introduced there. Today we continue reflecting on the way Western activism interacts with research and the interpretation of the fa’afafine, the muxe,...
Premium: Sibling Dynamics in ROGD Families 18.03.2022 14:16
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67 - Pioneers Series: Men Trapped in Men’s Bodies, with Anne Lawrence 18.03.2022 1:15:40
Dr. Anne Lawrence is a physician, sex researcher, and academic writer. She is also a postoperative male-to-female transsexual who underwent gender transition in 1996. Since early childhood, she had experienced an intense desire to have a female body, but she had been unable to find any scientific or popular descriptions of transsexualism that spoke to her experience. This changed in the early 1990...
Premium: Medicalizing in College 11.03.2022 17:00
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66 - Pioneers Series: Where It All Started - The Dutch Researchers Steensma & De Vries 11.03.2022 1:25:26
The reason this interview is so important is bc the concept of puberty blockers originated with these two researchers (along w/ cohen kettenis.) We talk about patient zero and the 22 year follow up w/ this person. We get into the nitty gritty details about the 2 studies on which all puberty blocker treatment is based: we ask why they selected certain methods, talked about eligibility criteria, and...
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