Sasha Ayad and Stella O'Malley
Gender: A Wider Lens
In this podcast, now in its fourth year, therapists Stella O'Malley and Sasha Ayad take a deep dive into the psychological and cultural forces impacting the social changes around "gender." Through interviews with researchers, doctors, therapists, parents, detransitioners, and others, Sasha and Stella's podcast is a "must listen" for anyone trying to navigate the current gender landscape. With their sharp analytical minds and deep compassionate hearts, Stella and Sasha have also become known throughout many parent networks as lighthouses in the midst of some very stormy seas. Previous guests in...
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Feb 25, 2025
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Episodes
88 - Gender: Philosophy, Institutions, and Policy with Leor Sapir 23.09.2022 1:11:17
If you’ve ever asked yourself: how is this happening? How are so many institutions completely captured by contemporary gender beliefs? How are medical bodies, educational institutions, and courts operating in ways that seem crazy? Well, then you really need to listen to this insightful and clarifying discussion with Leor Sapir. Leor is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute. A driven researcher wit...
Premium: Should I Inform My Child About the UK/European Gender News? 16.09.2022 14:47
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87 — Medical Technology & Ethics w Jennifer Lahl 16.09.2022 1:07:16
Jennifer Lahl is the founder and president of The Center for Bioethics and Culture Network. She has 25 years of experience as a pediatric critical care nurse, hospital administrator, and senior-level nursing manager, and more recently, she’s also become a successful filmmaker. In 2010, she made her writing, producing, and directing debut producing the documentary film Eggsploitation , which has be...
Premium: Who Medicalizes, Who Stops at Labels 09.09.2022 15:19
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86 - Hormones & Identity with Bob Ostertag 09.09.2022 1:14:11
Bob Ostertag published his book, S ex Science Self: A Social History of Estrogen, Testosterone, and Identity in 2016. At the time, few people took much notice. Six years later, however, this book is causing a stir among gender critical circles and provoking considerable thought and discussion. Today, Bob Ostertag expands on the book, which explores the way pharmaceutical companies have been market...
Premium: Mothers vs. Fathers - Different Responses to ROGD 02.09.2022 16:58
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85 — Mother-Daughter Story: "I Didn’t Want to be Yours Anymore" w/ Dr. Maggie Goldsmith 02.09.2022 1:08:46
Dr. Maggie Goldsmith was working as an independent contractor at the psychological and counseling service of a small, progressive, liberal arts college when her 16-year-old daughter announced that she identified as trans-masculine and required he/him pronouns. Unable to find appropriate help for her daughter who was intensifying her demands for cross-sex hormone treatment as she approached her 18t...
Premium: Anxiety and ROGD 26.08.2022 16:03
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84 — Denise Caignon From 4thWaveNow: The View From Behind the Scenes 26.08.2022 1:13:02
Denise Caignon is the founder of 4th wave now, the very first parent blog in the U.S. exposing the dangers and madness of the gender affirmative model of care for minors. In 2014, Denise seemed to be an ordinary U.S. mother who happened to work in healthcare, when her then 17-year-old daughter, out of the blue, texted her a link to a gender doctor’s website who claims he approves hormones and surg...
Premium: ROGD, ASD, and Desistance 19.08.2022 14:09
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83 — Trans Widow: Off the Grid with Shannon Thrace 19.08.2022 1:05:32
Shannon Thrace is a writer, IT professional, and devotee of farm-to-table restaurants, summer festivals, all-night conversations, and lifelong learning. She’s passionate about unplugging, getting outside, and traveling the world. She’s also a trans widow who has written a memoir, soon to be published. Today Shannon tells about first meeting her husband, Jaime. She fell in love and married a man wh...
Premium: My Friend is Affirming Her ROGD Child 12.08.2022 14:44
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82 - ASD & Gender: Who am I? with Dr. Tony Attwood 12.08.2022 1:04:53
Professor Tony Attwood has specialized in Autism Spectrum Disorders since he qualified as a clinical psychologist in England in 1975. He has written two books: Asperger’s Syndrome: A Guide for Parents and Professionals and The Complete Guide to Asperger’s Syndrome . Between the two, they’ve sold over 800,000 copies and have been translated into dozens of languages. He has been a keynote speaker at...
Premium: What's Intersex Got to Do With It? 05.08.2022 15:30
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81 - An Unlikely Court Case w/ Maya Forstater 05.08.2022 1:10:51
Maya Forstater is a researcher, writer, and advisor working on business and sustainable development. She is one of the founders of Sex Matters, the UK-based, not-for-profit organization that seeks to re-establish that sex matters in rules, laws, policies, language, and culture. In 2019, she lost her job after tweeting and writing about sex and gender. She had begun talking and tweeting about news...
Premium: Is Gender Another Obsessive Fixation for My OCD Child? 29.07.2022 14:05
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80 — Desistance Part II — Advice for Parents 29.07.2022 1:01:22
Following on from the first episode on desistance (77), Sasha and Stella address a common question they get from parents of gender-questioning children: Could my child be desisting, and if so, how should I respond? The episode begins with a description of how it might look if a child is desisting or developing more psychological flexibility around gender. Then, they explore the many different resp...
Premium: My Child is Likely Gay and Has ROGD. Help! 22.07.2022 12:53
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79 - Gender Identity: Literally False, Metaphorically True with Dr. Bret Alderman 21.07.2022 1:07:01
Bret Alderman is a writer and life coach who works with gender-questioning teens and their parents. He received his Ph. D. in Depth Psychology from the Pacifica Graduate Institute in 2012. His book Symptom, Symbol, and the Other of Language: A Jungian Interpretation of the Linguistic Turn, is an attempt to understand postmodernism, specifically its intense preoccupation with language, from a persp...
Premium: How Do I Manage My Child's Unhealthy Online Life? 15.07.2022 12:42
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78 — Affirming Reality for Kids with Stephanie Davies-Arai 15.07.2022 1:09:48
Stephanie Davies-Arai is the founder and director of Transgender Trend, the leading UK organization calling for evidence-based healthcare for gender dysphoric children and young people and fact-based teaching in schools. She was shortlisted for the John Maddox Prize 2018 for the school’s guide, “Supporting gender diverse and trans-identified students in schools.” She is a communication skills expe...
Premium: My Child Abandoned His Life Plans for Transition 08.07.2022 14:19
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77 — Desistance Pt 1 — Accepting Reality: Now vs Then 08.07.2022 58:25
This is Part 1 of a 2-part series on desistance. The difference between desistance and detransition is quite stark and in this episode, Sasha and Stella focus on the complex experience of desistance. How might a child come to desist? What facilitates or hinders this process, and what complicated feelings go along with this experience? Sasha and Stella also discuss the changes that have arisen in r...
76 — Detransition Part II — The Emerging Picture in Research 01.07.2022 1:04:42
In this second episode on detransition (following from EP 74), Sasha and Stella dig into several pieces of research on detransition experiences. They discuss surveys and case studies and analyze the data which is forming a picture of why detransition happens and what appropriate therapeutic care might look like for this vulnerable group. Themes emerge such as misattributing distress to the body’s...
75 - Borderline Personality: Distorted Attempts to Integrate - A Conversation w/ Lisa Duval 24.06.2022 1:09:23
Lisa Duval is a licensed clinical psychologist who has worked with children, teens, and families for over 30 years. She is also the mother of a “fiercely gender-questioning” 18-year-old daughter, who has been male-identified for the last 5 years. She works with ROGD teens in an exploratory, empowering, feminist, and body-positive way, affirming their beautiful, complicated selves but not simply th...
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