Dr. Owen Campbell, DPT and Dr. Brian Wolfe, DPT
Front Row Back Row Podcast: Presented By PhysioGrowth
The Front Row Back Row Podcast is a show started by two college classmates who went on to start their own physical therapy businesses. Brian started his entrepreneurship journey early and has grown his company to 5 clinics doing over $2 million in revenue. Owen climbed the corporate ladder and managed over 40 employees generating $5 million in annual revenue before starting his own mobile physical therapy company. Together they started PhysioGrowth, and talk shop providing weekly tips and tricks to level up your side gig, solo practice, or multi-clinic company.
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Dr. Owen Campbell, DPT and Dr. Brian Wolfe, DPT
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Jul 10, 2026
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Episodes
Should You Discount Your Services To Get More Patients? (Ep. 72) 20.03.2025 19:09
“$67 evaluation for new patients!” “Packages for 15% discount!” Giving people a deal is a tried and tested way of bringing in new customers, but how deep should you cut?... The post Should You Discount Your Services To Get More Patients? (Ep. 72) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Does AI Today Actually Solve A PT Owner’s Problem? (Ep. 71) 18.03.2025 21:26
How is AI going to make things better? Yeah you’ve saved time writing Instagram captions, but how does it translate to more productive businesses? Brian has been getting pitches constantly... The post Does AI Today Actually Solve A PT Owner’s Problem? (Ep. 71) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Why Do We Categorize PT Practices By How We Take Payment? (Ep. 70) 09.03.2025 16:33
Home Depot isn’t a “credit-card based” hardware store, so why do so many PTs call themselves “cash-based?” It’s far more important to be a good business owner than how you... The post Why Do We Categorize PT Practices By How We Take Payment? (Ep. 70) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Understanding Client Risk (Ep. 69) 05.03.2025 19:30
As you grow, you are just getting every new patient you can find. As you get bigger, you will realize that you need to diversify your referral sources. In this... The post Understanding Client Risk (Ep. 69) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
I’m Busy, Now What? The Cash Pay PT Wall (Ep. 68) 28.02.2025 20:07
Many who have gone into cash-pay PT have noticed it’s a slow process. Finally, you build up to a consistent caseload. But then you have a choice to make. Do... The post I’m Busy, Now What? The Cash Pay PT Wall (Ep. 68) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
When To Outsource Marketing (Ep. 67) 24.02.2025 15:38
About the hosts: Brian owns a 5-clinic company doing $2M in annual revenue which he started from the back of his car as a mobile PT. Owen helped take a... The post When To Outsource Marketing (Ep. 67) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
How To Avoid Being Burned By Ad Agencies And Other Vendors As A PT (Ep. 66) 21.02.2025 15:38
At some point in your entrepreneurial journey you will need to outsource some of the things you don’t like doing, or don’t do well. For most PTs, this is advertising.... The post How To Avoid Being Burned By Ad Agencies And Other Vendors As A PT (Ep. 66) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
How To Know Which AI “Fix” Is Worth It (Ep. 65) 19.02.2025 15:39
About the hosts: Brian owns a 5-clinic company doing $2M in annual revenue which he started from the back of his car as a mobile PT. Owen helped take a... The post How To Know Which AI “Fix” Is Worth It (Ep. 65) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Building A $2M PT Business On Meta Ads (Ep. 64) 13.02.2025 18:52
Brian has built his $2M/year PT/Fitness business on Meta Ads. He also runs them for a bigger and smaller practice with great results. In this podcast we will discuss the... The post Building A $2M PT Business On Meta Ads (Ep. 64) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
One-on-One Care In Insurance-Based PT Without Going Out Of Business (Ep. 63) 11.02.2025 19:59
Everyone thinks you can’t take insurance and do 1-1 care without going out of business. Brian’s company does this and they are rapidly growing, so it can be done! In... The post One-on-One Care In Insurance-Based PT Without Going Out Of Business (Ep. 63) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
So You Want To Break Into Corporate Wellness? (Ep. 62) 07.02.2025 19:09
Brian brings his experience with Corporate Wellness to this podcast. Corporate Wellness differs from Industrial PT as it focuses more broadly on all employees, not just heavy manual labor employees.... The post So You Want To Break Into Corporate Wellness? (Ep. 62) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Scale Without Insurance – Corporate Wellness and Industrial PT (Ep. 61) 04.02.2025 18:48
Everyone always says you can’t scale cash. Maybe not. Meeting a business’s wellness and injury prevention needs directly can build volume and doesn’t rely as heavily on personal brand. Brian... The post Scale Without Insurance – Corporate Wellness and Industrial PT (Ep. 61) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Headwinds Of Cash PT Now That I’ve Done It For A Year (Ep. 60) 31.01.2025 19:53
Owen has started a cash-based PT company and is now full-time in the business after a year. In this episode we discuss the challenges he has faced, and Brian points... The post Headwinds Of Cash PT Now That I’ve Done It For A Year (Ep. 60) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Sales Role Play – How To Master Objection Overcomes and “Do You Take My Insurance?” (Ep. 59) 29.01.2025 28:47
On today’s episode we pull an exclusive example from our mastermind group with a sales role play. Brian has handled thousands of calls from patients and clients wanting physical therapy... The post Sales Role Play – How To Master Objection Overcomes and “Do You Take My Insurance?” (Ep. 59) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
My Big Offer Failed! What Went Wrong? (Ep. 58) 23.01.2025 21:33
Owen created what he thought was a killer offer. It solved a problem, it was a bargain package compared to buying everything individually, and the ad was getting clicks. But... The post My Big Offer Failed! What Went Wrong? (Ep. 58) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Intrapreneurship – How To Build A Practice Within A Practice (Ep. 57) 17.01.2025 17:40
For entrepreneurs, it can be hard to retain top talent. This is especially true for cash-only practices. The barrier for entry is so low for a cash practice, so popular... The post Intrapreneurship – How To Build A Practice Within A Practice (Ep. 57) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Cash Pay vs. Insurance … Fight! (Ep. 56) 14.01.2025 24:09
With Owen starting a cash pay PT company, and Brian owning a PT company that takes all major insurances, we are dueling it out! But interestingly we have each been... The post Cash Pay vs. Insurance … Fight! (Ep. 56) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Types Of Meta Ads – What Fits Your Goal? (Ep. 55) 09.01.2025 20:08
You’ve heard about paid ads, and you surely see them all the time. Meta ads can be a great tool for any business, but starting can feel like climbing uphill.... The post Types Of Meta Ads – What Fits Your Goal? (Ep. 55) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Setting Goals For The New Year (Ep. 54) 07.01.2025 20:47
Setting goals for your life and business will help you reduce stress throughout the year. Brian and Owen discuss goals for their practices in this episode. Brian has 5 clinics... The post Setting Goals For The New Year (Ep. 54) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Can You Scale A Cash Practice? (Ep. 53) 02.01.2025 16:46
Brian started his practice as a cash-based mobile physical therapy company 9 years ago. He has since built it to 5 clinics doing $2M annually in revenue. He has managed... The post Can You Scale A Cash Practice? (Ep. 53) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Do I Spend The Money on SEO? (Ep. 52) 31.12.2024 15:39
Brian has a PT/Fitness company he started from his car, that now grosses $2 million annually over 5 clinics. Owen has hired over 100 PTs, and doubled the business for... The post Do I Spend The Money on SEO? (Ep. 52) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Google Reviews and Other Strategies To Boost Social Proof (Ep. 51) 27.12.2024 15:29
Brian has a company he started from his car, that now grosses $2 million annually over 5 clinics. Owen has hired over 100 PTs, and doubled the business for a... The post Google Reviews and Other Strategies To Boost Social Proof (Ep. 51) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Remote Therapeutic Monitoring (RTM) For Dummies (Ep. 50) 19.12.2024 17:08
“Let’s do something topical.” – Brian “Ok, let’s talk about Remote Therapeutic Monitoring (RTM).” – Owen “What’s that dumb crap?” – Brian Listen as we explain the basics of RTM,... The post Remote Therapeutic Monitoring (RTM) For Dummies (Ep. 50) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
Planning Cash Flow – From That First Vacation To Scaling (Ep. 49) 18.12.2024 14:56
Cash flow is the biggest challenge when you are starting up, but it can also be a bear when you are looking to scale. Adding a new employee, buying a... The post Planning Cash Flow – From That First Vacation To Scaling (Ep. 49) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
We Discuss The Murder Of United Healthcare CEO (Ep. 48) 12.12.2024 16:43
We discuss the tragic news of the slaying of United Healthcare CEO on December 4th, and explore what it says about the relationship between providers, patients, and health insurers. If... The post We Discuss The Murder Of United Healthcare CEO (Ep. 48) appeared first on Simplify Motion .
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