Susan & Rob Cottrell, FreedHearts
FreedHearts
Freeing hearts to love and be loved! Love. Inclusion. Affirmation. Susan Cottrell is the Mom of two LGBTQ+ children; the founder of FreedHearts; an international speaker with a viral TEDx talk; a pastor and theologian; an acclaimed author; and a fierce advocate and ally. In her unique tender, relatable style, Susan is a prominent voice of unconditional love and lavish inclusion. Powerful, authentic, and relevant in today’s society, Susan has a lot to say. The Advocate calls her their “Favorite Affirming Matriarch.” OutSmart magazine calls her "The Mother of all MamaBears!" Reverend Ashley Harn...
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Jul 8, 2026
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Episodes
Why Supporting the Trans Community is So Important! 03.05.2023 21:59
The threat is growing from anti-transgender legislation that is being introduced and passed in various parts of the country. Many of these bills are targeting transgender youth and are attempting to limit their access to medical care. Beloved, the time is NOW to stand up and speak up in support of our transgender family and friends. Please share this important episode. Send us a private message....
100th Episode: Our Daughter-Saint Sinner-LIVE! 12.04.2023 47:57
The music at the beginning and the end of every episode is the song "Calm Me Down" by our daughter Hannah , you may know her as Saint Sinner. She is a Grammy-nominated singer/songwriter, an incredible producer, an innovative creator as a DJ artist, and she is an all-around amazing, inspiring human being with a beautiful soul. This is our 100th episode and we want to do something special!...
Can We "Find God Again" After Deconstructing? 05.04.2023 25:31
When you deconstruct your faith, sometimes people get afraid that they won’t be able to “find God again” – or Spirit, the Universe, God – however you define that. Why is that a challenge? Because old false religious beliefs are so deeply ingrained in us, and we were taught to be terrified of anyone on the outside. And to be terrified of our own hearts. So, deconstruction can come loaded with gui...
The Church is Broken and Can't Fix Itself 29.03.2023 21:24
This is The Deconstruction Zone, where we help those of you who come from a nonaffirming, rules-based Christian past – with all the shame, guilt, wounds and trauma that go with that – deconstruct false religious beliefs. Deconstruct those lies about you, those you love, about God, about life – and reconstruct a spirituality that fits perfectly for you – whatever that looks like. A spirituality tha...
8 Ways the Pop-Christian Gospel Damages Children 22.03.2023 29:31
We hear the hate coming from the nonaffirming church about things like drag queen storytimes, transgender bathroom laws, and more… all disguised in the “we care about the children” lie! Disgusting and indefensible. Just to be clear – it has NOTHING to do with children. Kids are being used in a transparent attempt to hide hate and bigotry. Period. So, what are the REAL threats to children? Wha...
A Parent's Crushing Regret 15.03.2023 15:22
One of our most popular YouTube videos is called: A Pastor Looks Up in Tears . It is about a non-affirming pastor who is shocked at what he discovers about God, others, and himself when he gets to what the Bible calls Heaven. We have connected with tens of thousands of parents who have been pressured, and sometimes convinced by their church to reject their LGBTQ+ child… to condemn and shame the...
God is Not Mad at You and Never Has Been! 08.03.2023 25:21
It breaks our hearts when people talk negatively about themselves. Most of the time, this is based on a belief that, at our core, we are probably a disappointment to God, that God is mad at us. We have talked about how the message of Jesus has been distorted and replaced with these false lies that you are broken, that you need saved. That is NOT from Jesus or God and we call bullshit! For us to un...
Jesus is the Biggest Threat to Christianity! 01.03.2023 24:50
Every day, we see the pain and betrayal inflicted in people’s lives from the rules-based, non-affirming Christian church. The devastating suffering of those who have been destroyed by their family and church rejecting them, condemning them—leading to depression, homelessness, substance abuse, and stunningly high suicide rates. Sickening. Indefensible. And you know what, it's absolutely NOTHIN...
An Open Letter to Family Who Reject Me. 22.02.2023 16:25
So many of you listening have been on the receiving end of faith-based family rejection. Maybe because you are part of the LGBTQ+ community – maybe because you support and affirm someone who is – or maybe just because you are deconstructing from false religious beliefs. The truth is that this rejection has nothing to do with you and speaks volumes about the people treating you this way. Today...
He, She, They Talk All About Pronouns! 15.02.2023 29:29
We have a brand-new grandbaby—and are so happy--and thought this was a great opportunity to talk about pronouns. We all will use they/them pronouns for our grandchild until they let us know something else. It will be very natural and normal to be raised in a gender inclusive environment. Honestly, it really is unnatural NOT to be – but that is a result of binary thinking that has ingrained its...
A Drag Queen Preacher!? Oh yes! :) 08.02.2023 12:49
Drag queens seem to be in the news with Drag Queen Storytimes! You hear people promoting false fear and lies about kids in danger. But you also hear other people pointing out how kids are likely safer with a drag queen than with many religious leaders! Yeah, truth. Today we are going to talk about someone very special. Someone whose life and impact challenge many in the church, and reach a growing...
The Word 'Homosexual' Was NEVER in the Bible! 01.02.2023 19:58
Today, we are going to talk about one word… “homosexual.” And how it was never in the Bible. Nope, NEVER! A handful of verses in the Bible have been falsely taught and used to propagate modern homophobia and transphobia. But, guess what? The words homosexual, gay, lesbian, bisexual or transgender were never actually in the Bible! That all changed in 1946 when an American Bible company mistransla...
Where Does Feeling Miserable Come From? 25.01.2023 22:44
Beloved, are you tired of feeling miserable? Where does misery even come from? What leads to it? The answer may surprise you! Let’s talk about that, so we can do something about it. Because, Beloved, you deserve to be happy, content, joyful and loved. Send us a private message. *Note: INCLUDE YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS if you'd like us to answer. :-) Support the show
Church, what the hell did you expect me to do? 18.01.2023 27:35
We deconstruct dangerous religious beliefs and false teachings that steal your life, and steal your joy. In this episode, we look at how different the reality of the actions and core beliefs of the non-affirming, behavior-focused, rules-based part of the Christian church is from what we heard from them – from what they told us Jesus wanted us to do. We listened, we heard, we did what they said an...
10 Things to STOP Doing. It Could Change Everything! 14.12.2022 28:47
We are not big fans of New Year’s Resolutions as they are often things you promise to do and then when it does not work out that way, there is a lot of guilt and shame. And we certainly don’t deserve that. In this episode, we want to do something a little different. Something very special. We want to share with you 10 things that you can STOP doing! And these may be things that could change ev...
Is My Opinion Invalid Because My Child is LGBTQ+?? 07.12.2022 18:03
We have been told by Christians that our opinion on LGBTQ+ people is invalid—that our opinion is invalid because we have two children who are part of that community, and of course, we would just change our opinion to justify them. No! Let me tell you something. Since our two kids came out, we have pondered, prayed, pressed for answers. We have sought, studied, searched for God. We listened and ask...
What People Say When You Start Deconstructing! 30.11.2022 29:24
Toxic Christianity has resulted in so much harm, so much pain. It is based in a behavior-focus, rules-based, nonaffirming religion that puts God in a box and justifies rejection, condemnation, and the suffering it imposes. This teaching is given in such a controlling, cult-like way, with manipulation, threats, gaslighting, that it can be difficult to get out of. That is why we do this work. To...
You Can’t Stop Me Lovin' Myself! 16.11.2022 33:59
We have talked about one of the biggest lies you will ever hear in church: That you are broken, unworthy. And we talked about self-love being one of our biggest sources of resilience. But, much of religious teaching tries to tell you that self-love is a false teaching. Wrong! Self-love is so powerful, so critical to everything in life, and the lack of self-love is so dangerous and deadly. In thi...
One of the Biggest Lies You Will Ever Hear in Church 02.11.2022 34:20
We’ve talked about the teaching of contempt as one of the deadliest teachings in all humanity. Another deadly teaching, and one of the biggest lies you will ever in church, is that you are broken. That you are not worthy, that you need fixed, that you need saved. This false, deadly narrative has led to so much harm! Part of that is the attempt to make self-love a bad thing, even go so far as to cl...
Hurting & Hope: A Letter from a Transgender Friend 26.10.2022 28:54
Today, we share a letter we received from a beautiful soul – a transgender woman who found hope in the midst of deep pain. We have called this space, our time together the FreedHearts Deconstruction Zone . Our goals are to help you deconstruct false, damaging beliefs that are often deeply ingrained. We want to bring clarity in the midst of confusion, to bring freedom instead of fear, and brin...
Religious Liberties Are Not Even Biblical! 19.10.2022 18:58
Recent and possible upcoming Supreme Court rulings, battles in conservative states over books and transgender human rights – and remembering back to a clerk in Kentucky, a baker in Colorado, a florist in Washington... All of these, in one way or another – sometimes direct, sometimes indirect – are all discriminating against LGBTQ+ people, women, children, people of color, and many others, all in...
For Dads of LGBTQ+ Children – A Very Special Episode 12.10.2022 15:40
Just Rob today… talking to Dads. But this is good for all parents, for LGBTQ+ kids, for allies. It helps us all better understand and support. So, Dads…Your child is gay. Your love for your child seems to somehow conflict with your faith - at least according to what you may hear from Christian friends. Like it or not, you are on the first steps of a journey. What do you do? What kind of Dad will...
When Your Child Condemns You For Being Gay 05.10.2022 28:03
We often talk about parents who accept their LGBTQ+ kids, and about parents who don’t. Today, we flip the script and talk about children who condemn their LGBTQ+ parents , and how to respond to that. Maybe this is for you, maybe for someone you love. Let’s talk about how we can best protect our hearts against what can feel like a relentless, intimate attack, and how we can respond to these comm...
When an Affirming Parent Defends Their LGBTQ+ Child 28.09.2022 21:42
In this episode, we talk about how affirming parents respond! When they are a child’s advocate and ally, a child’s defender and protector – to family members, sometimes very close family members, and friends, who are NOT affirming. Not accepting. Way too often openly anti-gay and cruel. We want to share a letter a mom wrote on behalf of her transgender daughter. It is beautiful. Sometimes we stan...
Have You Had It With Church? 14.09.2022 32:07
How are you doing? Are you a bit discouraged? Disillusioned? For those of you with a faith background, those of you deconstructing… How are you doing with your faith overall, spiritually, with church even as a concept? Have you had it with church? Don’t really know what do to with what you’re feeling? Yeah, I hear you. This is the perfect episode for you. Let’s talk. Send us a private me...
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