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For the Sake of the Argument with Lori Goldman
On For the Sake of the Argument, Lori Goldman sits down with Michigan’s elected officials to talk policy, real life, and ask the kinds of questions that make press secretaries sweat. For the Sake of the Argument is a Distill Social production.
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
Eboni Taylor on Making Detroit More Affordable 07.07.2026 24:31
Eboni Taylor, candidate for Michigan's 3rd Senate District, joins the show to discuss her campaign for state government, how she intends to stand up to DTE, how we should deal with Michigan's growing data center troubles, and her hopes for the progressive movement moving forward. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Protecting Our Great Lakes by Combating Line 5 30.06.2026 24:16
Today, Lori is joined by Andy Buchsbaum of Oil and Water Don't Mix to talk about the devastating environmental impacts that Embridge's line 5 could have on our great lakes if it is allowed to continue piping crude oil. Andy dismantles common misconceptions about the Union job outlook if teh Pipeline was shut down, goes through a brief history of the general publics discovery of line 5, and...
State Rep. Samantha Steckloff on Protecting Reproductive Rights & Confronting Hate 23.06.2026 36:58
Michigan State Representative Samantha Steckloff (HD-19) joins the show to discuss how her cancer diagnoses informs her politics, what she has done to protect reproductive rights, confronting both antisemitism and islamophobia, and lowering costs for Michiganders. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Can an Independent Win in Michigan? with Dr. Anil Kumar 09.06.2026 33:32
Dr. Anil Kumar joins Lori to talk about his run as an independent for Michigan's 11th congressional district. Dr. Kumar talks about the challenges of running as neither a Republican or Democrat despite his Democrat aligned values, his experience as an immigrant and how that informs his stance on ICE, and his stance on Medicare for All. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
From Organizer to Candidate with Katrina Manetta 26.05.2026 17:57
Katrina Manetta, candidate for State House district 58 in Michigan, joins the show to discuss her history as an organizer and her current candidacy, making life more affordable, combating the Trump administration, and more. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Alex Hawkins: From the Bomb Squad to Aspiring Politician 19.05.2026 30:24
Candidate for Michigan State House district 55 Alex Hawkins joins Lori to talk about his time in the bomb squad, DTE's influence on the MI legislature, how to fix Michigans broken education system , and what changes he wants to see should he win his race this November. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Donavan McKinney Wants Detroit to Have Better Representation 05.05.2026 27:09
Donovan McKinney, candidate for Michigan's 13th Congressional district, discusses his primary challenge against Rep. Shri Thanedar, his views on foreign policy and ICE, democratic socialism, and more. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
The Michigan Socialist Running for State House with Chris Gilmer-Hill 28.04.2026 29:54
Chris Gilmer-Hill joins Lori to discuss problems facing Michigans 8th state house district, Him and Lori discuss DTE's corrupt influence, MICARE, and a vision for a better Democratic party Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Don Ufford on Rebuilding the Working Class 21.04.2026 24:38
Don Ufford, candidate for Michigan's 11th House District, joins the show to discuss his campaign for Congress, his critique of the Trump administration, his rejection of corporate PAC money, and more. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Is the US Nearing Dictatorship? with Shadia Martini 14.04.2026 30:48
Shadia Martini joins Lori to discuss and compare whats happening in the US to her childhood home in Syria under Assad. Martini is running for State Senate and has ideas for how we combat Michigans growing data center problem, DTE, and the housing crisis. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Rima Mohammed on the Direction of the Democratic Party 07.04.2026 31:37
Rima Mohammed, member of the Ann Arbor School Board, joins the show to discuss her position on the board, the work of the People's Coalition, being an organizer in today's political environment, what makes her hopeful for the future, and much more. Support the People's Coalition: https://www.ourpeoplescoalition.com/ Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Barb Byrum on Protecting Michigan Elections 31.03.2026 24:14
Barb Byrum speaks on her experience administering elections, how we can protect Michigan elections from federal overreach, why she is running for Secretary of State, how she feels about Lt. Gov. Garlin Gilchrist II joining the race, and more. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
How Can State Legislators Resist Trump's ICE with Stephanie Chang 24.03.2026 34:37
Michigan State Senator Stephanie Chang (SD-3) joins Lori to talk about what state legislators can do to resist ICE, CBP plate readers across the state, and building political will to pass comprehensive immigration reform. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Carrie Rheingans on Reforming Healthcare & Abolishing ICE 17.03.2026 26:02
Michigan State Representative Carrie Rheingans talks about her MiCare initiative which would stand to reform our broken healthcare system in this country and abolishing ICE.
Andy Levin on How the Democratic Party Can Improve 10.03.2026 53:16
Former Representative Andy Levin joins the show to discuss the Democratic Party's future, the politics of labor and the environment, and what his plans are for the future. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Kyle Blomquist on Running in Northern Michigan 03.03.2026 32:14
Kyle Blomquist joins the show to discuss his campaign for Congress in MI-1 (northern Michigan), his support for Medicare for All and other progressive priorities, and much more. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
Justin Onwenu on Delivering Economic Justice to Michigan 24.02.2026 25:16
Justin Onwenu, Detroit Director of Entrepreneurship and Economic Opportunity and former organizer for One Fair Wage, discusses his run for the 1st State Senate District in Michigan. Onwenu talks about his experience working for the city, his top issues for the state legislature, how he would curtail the power of DTE in Lansing, and much more. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
State Rep. Kristian Grant Breaks Down the Housing Crisis 17.02.2026 27:09
Michigan State Rep. Kristian Grant (HD-82) joins the show to talk about housing affordability, building on-ramps and off-ramps for the housing market, safety considerations for housing construction, and what Democrats should be focused on moving forward. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
State Rep .Natalie Price Discusses Her Minnesota Visit 10.02.2026 35:38
Today, Lori is joined by Michigan State Representative Natalie Price as she details her harrowing visit to Minnesota. Price speaks about her experience witnessing the ICE occupation, what the Michigan state legislature can do to stop things here from getting that bad, and what individuals can do to help those in our communities.
Abraham Aiyash Wants to Make Life in Michigan More Affordable 03.02.2026 41:17
Lori is joined by Abraham Aiyash to talk about his bid for Michigan Senate district. Find out his top three legislative priorities as well as some insider information on just how deep the DTE rot goes throughout the Michigan legislature.
Mai Xiong Talks Defunding ICE and Her Controversial Detroit Autoshow Dress 27.01.2026 36:44
State Representative Mai Xiong joins Lori on today's episode to chat about ICE's recent abuses and how she's taking a unique stand. She also shares her families harrowing refugee story and how that has shaped her and her politics. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
RERUN: Democrats & Disillusion with State Senator Mallory McMorrow 20.01.2026 30:07
This episode was first aired on July 29, 2025State Senator and candidate for US Senate in Michigan Mallory McMorrow joins the show to discuss her time as a state senator, how she plans to reach voters from now through 2026, her stance on universal healthcare, and what Democrats should be doing to reclaim power throughout the country. Follow the show on all social media: https://linktr.ee/forthesak...
Can Christina Hines Replace John James in MI-10? 13.01.2026 35:35
Christina Hines, candidate for Michigan's 10th Congressional District, joins the show to talk about the major issues facing Michigan, including healthcare costs, billionaires meddling in politics, Trump's mass deportation effort, and more. In addition, Hines offers her view on Trump's illegal abduction of Nicolas Maduro. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
The Threat of Christian Nationalism with Joanna Whaley 06.01.2026 29:16
Joanna Whaley, candidate for Michigan State House District 2, joins the pod to discuss her time in the Evangelical church, how her transgender identity plays a role in her faith, the economic issues facing House District 2, and growing the threat of Christian nationalism. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument
The Injustice of ICE with Miriam Stone 23.12.2025 24:48
Miriam Stone joins the show to discuss the kidnapping of her brother, Ernesto, by ICE. If you want to help Miriam's family, visit their GoFundMe page. GoFundMe: https://www.gofundme.com/f/help-bring-ernesto-home-to-his-wife-and-child
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