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For the Sake of the Argument with Lori Goldman

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On For the Sake of the Argument, Lori Goldman sits down with Michigan’s elected officials to talk policy, real life, and ask the kinds of questions that make press secretaries sweat. For the Sake of the Argument is a Distill Social production.

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Latest episode

Jul 7, 2026

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Episodes

The Saline, MI Data Center and DTE's Influence with AG Dana Nessel 16.12.2025

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel joins the show to discuss the data center being constructed in Saline without public input, its effects on the local community, the redactions in the contract, and how we can push back. www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

RERUN: Diagnosing America's Ills with Dr. Abdul El Sayed 09.12.2025

This is a rerun of my interview with Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, originally released on 8/19/2025.Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, candidate for US Senate in Michigan, joins the show to discuss Medicare for All, his positions on foreign policy, what it takes to represent the people in a corrupt political system, and much more. If you enjoy the show, please support us on social media: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargum...

The Race for Michigan's 35th Senate District with Dr. Pamela Pugh 02.12.2025

Dr. Pamela Pugh joins the show to discuss her experience on the Michigan Board of Education, her reasoning behind running for the vacant Senate district, her qualifications for office, and much more. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

AI Data Centers & Dismantling Corporate Power with Christy McGillivray 18.11.2025

Note: No episode coming next week! Christy McGillivray, Executive Director of Voters Not Politicians, joins the show to discuss corporate money in politics, the ballot petition VNP is working on to stop it, the problem of AI data centers in Michigan, and much more. Support the petition: ⁠ www.mopupmichigan.org⁠ Support the show: ⁠ www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument⁠

The American Dream is Dead with William Lawrence 11.11.2025

William Lawrence, a Democratic candidate for Michigan's 7th Congressional District, joins the show to talk about the failures of Representative Tom Barrett, William focuses on affordability, Medicare for All, and so much more. Support the show here: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

The Importance of a Resilient Attorney General with Karen McDonald 04.11.2025

Karen McDonald, Oakland County Prosecutor, former judge, and candidate for Michigan Attorney General, joins Lori to discuss what she sees as the biggest problems facing Michiganders, dealing with accusations of "lawfare", her position on corporate money in politics, protecting Michigan from federal overreach, and much more. If you want to support the show, be sure to follow on all platfo...

Protecting Michigan's Elections with Deputy Secretary of State Aghogho Edevbie 28.10.2025

Apologies for the missed episode last week, we had a scheduling issue, but we are back this week with another interview! Aghogho Edevbie, Michigan's Deputy Secretary of State and candidate for Secretary of State, joins the show to discuss his qualifications for promotion, his plans for the office if he wins next year, threats to Michigan's democracy, and much more. If you want to support t...

How Unions Benefit the Classroom with Terrence Martin 14.10.2025

Terrence Martin, President of the American Federation of Teachers in Michigan, joins the show to discuss the biggest issues facing Michigan schools, attacks on Michigan teachers, and the importance of unions broadly. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument Terrence's show: https://www.youtube.com/@browncouchbruhz313

Reviving the Democratic Party with Curtis Hertel 07.10.2025

Michigan Democratic Party Chair Curtis Hertel joins the show to discuss the present state of the Democratic Party, how MI Democrats are pushing back on Trump, what Democrats missed in 2024, and how we can remain optimistic in this era. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

The Harsh Realities of American Politics with Rep. Laurie Pohutsky 30.09.2025

TRIGGER WARNING: Discussions of sexual and physical violence Michigan Representative Laurie Pohutsky (D-17) joins the show to discuss her career so far, her view on the intraparty debate for the Democrats, the various ways in which she has been threatened as a public official, and how women should be prepared to engage with politics. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

Fighting for Gaza with Huwaida Arraf 23.09.2025

Huwaida Arraf, a human/civil rights attorney and participant in a recent humanitarian flotilla headed to Gaza, joins the show to discuss her experience being detained by the IDF, the moral urgency of fighting for an arms embargo, and how our political decisions on the issue of Israel & Gaza should reflect the will of the voters. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

The Urgency of Fighting Authoritarianism with Attorney General Dana Nessel 16.09.2025

Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel joins the show to discuss her ongoing battles with the Trump administration, the necessity of fighting authoritarianism, her controversial prosecutions in Michigan, and where she sees herself after she exits the role of AG in 2027. Support the show: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

Catching a Vibe & Revitalizing Democracy with Jeremy Johnson 09.09.2025

Jeremy Johnson, host of the Head in the Office Podcast, joined to discuss how he sees so-called "new media," where he thinks the Democratic Party has failed, the shortcomings of our Democracy, the Michigan US Senate race, and much more. If you enjoy the show, follow on all platforms: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument Check out Jeremy's podcast here: www.linktr.ee/headintheoffice

A New Generation of Leaders with Mason Pressler 02.09.2025

Mason Pressler, school board member for Bay City Public Schools, joins the show to discuss his journey in politics as the youngest elected official in Michigan, the path forward for the Democratic Party, the politics of Gen Z, and so much more. Support the show here: www.linktr.ee/pointofdisorderpod

Funding Michigan Schools with Jamilla Martin 26.08.2025

Jamilla Martin, an activist at 482 Forward, joins the show to discuss the Invest in MI Kids ballot proposal, the chronic underfunding of Michigan schools, the importance of taxation to fund public services, and much more. If you want to support the show, follow on all social media: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

Diagnosing America's Ills with Dr. Abdul El-Sayed 19.08.2025

Dr. Abdul El-Sayed, candidate for US Senate in Michigan, joins the show to discuss Medicare for All, his positions on foreign policy, what it takes to represent the people in a corrupt political system, and much more. If you enjoy the show, please support us on social media: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

Creating a Better Future for Our Kids with MI Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson 12.08.2025

Michigan Secretary of State, and candidate for Governor in Michigan, Jocelyn Benson joins the show to discuss how she balances all of her responsibilities, her plans as a candidate for Governor, and what Michigan needs to do to become a place where everyone can thrive. If you want to support the show, check out more here: www.linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

Winning the Working Class with Pontiac City Councilman Mikal Goodman 05.08.2025

Pontiac City Councilman Mikal Goodman joins the show to discuss his election as a 21 year old in city government, what democratic socialism means to him, where the Democratic Party has failed, and what we can do to win back working class voters. If you want to support the show, follow on all platforms here: www.lintr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

Democrats & Disillusion with State Senator Mallory McMorrow 29.07.2025

State Senator and candidate for US Senate in Michigan Mallory McMorrow joins the show to discuss her time as a state senator, how she plans to reach voters from now through 2026, her stance on universal healthcare, and what Democrats should be doing to reclaim power throughout the country. Follow the show on all social media: https://linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

Defending Michigan & Fighting Trump with Washtenaw Prosecutor Eli Savit 22.07.2025

Eli Savit, the Prosecuting Attorney for Washtenaw County and candidate for Michigan Attorney General in 2026, joins Lori to discuss protecting Michigan from Trump, the major issues facing prosecutors, Eli's experience in the legal world, and what he would do as AG. If you enjoy the show, be sure to follow us everywhere!https://linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

The Race for Governor with Lt. Gov. Garlin Gilchrist II 15.07.2025

Lt. Governor of Michigan, and candidate for Governor, Garlin Gilchrist II joins Lori to talk about his experience as Lt. Gov., what he would do as Governor, how he would take on corporate power, how he would manage divided state politics, and much more. Make sure to follow me on social media: https://linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

What is Democratic Socialism? with Rep. Dylan Wegela 08.07.2025

Lori is joined by Michigan House Representative Dylan Wegela (D-26) to talk about democratic socialism, life as a representative, the drama of Lansing, and much more. Be sure to follow the show on all platforms!

Welcome to For the Sake of the Argument! 01.07.2025

Lori sits down with Julie to discuss their reasons for political engagement, their experiences running Fems for Dems, what to expect out of this podcast, and much more. Find us on all platforms here: https://linktr.ee/forthesakeoftheargument

TRAILER: Why a Podcast? 29.06.2025

This is a promotional clip for the upcoming release of the first episode on July 1 at 8AM ET.

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