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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
The Fathoms podcast is about serious work for unserious humans. We dive deep into the topics that make us human. Whether it's the Enneagram or just learning to ask better questions. There's never a shortage of gravity or levity, so hit play, let's get to it! This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
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Jul 17, 2025
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Episodes
Interview | Crafting a Story of Resilience with Dr. Kristin Beasley 16.12.2021 1:03:28
WARNING: episode contains general references to childhood trauma and abuse. | Goodness this was an amazing conversation with the wise and kind “Dr. B.” Dr. B is a clinical psychologist specializing in early childhood development. Dr. B’s insights on story in early childhood, resilience, and ACEs [adverse childhood experiences] 7:00 - Dr. B explains her work. 10:00 - How are our stories built i...
Fathom 15 | Google Q‘s: What are the enneagram triads? 09.12.2021 16:00
For our first Fathom 15 of the season, we’re discussing a most frequently asked question on the enneagram, according to Google Analytics: What are the enneagram triads? 3:00 - There are multiple triadic groupings of the enneagram. 3:45 - The three centers of intelligence 6:00 - The stances [social styles/Hornevian groups] 8:10 - The harmony triads 8:55 - Object relations: Dominant affect gro...
Interview | Clarity isn‘t Certainty with David Tofilon 02.12.2021 1:01:27
To kick off our season’s theme of “Story” we talk with Storybrand Certified Guide/marketing/branding guru David Tofilon. David is a kind, wise, soul who provides some profound insight into unpacking our stories. 1:15 - David describes himself in 3 words 3:30 - What is a Storybrand Certified Guide and what does it have to this podcast? 4:30 - An overview of a “brand script” 6:45 - Re: aspiratio...
Conversation | Season 3 Introduction 18.11.2021 42:02
In this Introduction to Season 3 of Fathoms, the Seths and Drew spent a weekend at a cabin in the woods in Kentucky. We turned the microphones on and talked about our hopes for this season. We also reflect on previous seasons, talk about Creek’s Kentucky roots, and we INTRODUCED THIS SEASON’S THEME. Of course, Abram has a quote or two to share. Thanks so much for your patience while we put toget...
Trailer | Season 3: Story 16.11.2021 3:21
We are excited to finally be launching our trailer for this season. It’s been a long time coming but we’re excited to share what we’ve been learning. Our theme this year is, Story. Knowing our story, Finding what stories to drop, and Understanding the stories of others. We hope you’ll join us this season! Song: Can I Be Honest - Eric Lee Carpenter This podcast uses the following third-party serv...
Finale | Season 2 Q & A 22.04.2021 56:13
In our Season 2 Finale, the Seths and Drew take a trip down memory lane and reflect on the many depths explored. Then, with some help with our friends Lee Fields and Milton Stewart we answer listener questions. And finally, the guys celebrate a major podcast milestone complete with a roast from our good friend Kevin Smith. We’re already scheming on Season 3. What would you like us to cover? Let u...
Meditation | A Walking Meditation 15.04.2021 24:56
Take a calming, grounded journey in nature with Creek and enjoy this walking meditation. This is 25 minutes well spent. Have a question? Send it to us through our instagram account! Our DMs our open. **If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!** — Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.” — Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser Productio...
BONUS | A Conversation with Enneagram Magazine 08.04.2021 30:58
Surprise! Enjoy this bonus episode with our friends Bekah TenHaken and Molly Tindall, the creative and kind geniuses behind Enneagram Magazine. Enneagram Magazine is a bold, profound, and beautiful contribution to today’s enneagram landscape. Thanks to Bekah and Molly for joining us to talk about it! And use the code: “FATHOMS” for 10% off your Enneagram Magazine order! About Bekah & her enneagra...
Fathom 15 | Listener Question: Annie F. Downs 01.04.2021 35:49
In this Fathom 15, the Seths and guest co-host Lindsey Marks talk briefly with one our listeners, author/podcaster/speaker and loud laugher Annie F. Downs. Annie is a is a dominant Type 7 and had a question for the Fathoms co-hosts: “As a Type 7 with a strong 8 wing, how can I better relate to other numbers?” Abram’s take on how to consider the wings [8:50] Lindsey on how the 7’s harmony triad...
Meditation | Repeating Question for the Centers 26.03.2021 9:11
While talking with Lynda Roberts, we also recorded a bonus meditation to share with you. Before you listen, grab a pen/pencil and a piece a paper, hit play, and engage this brief meditation focusing on a repeating question for each intelligence center. **If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!** Ways to find Lynda and her work: Lynda’s website: https://www.enneagramhorizons.com/ Enneagra...
Interview | Understanding the Inner Critic with Lynda Roberts 25.03.2021 56:12
In this episode, the Seths and Drew talk with one of our enneagram teachers, Lynda Roberts (Type 6). Lynda is an authorized Enneagram Institute teacher, former president of the Intl. Enneagram Association, and brings a wealth of enneagram experience and has some important wisdom on the inner critic of each type. Lynda’s enneagram journey [3:40] Lynda’s enneagram elevator pitch [7:00] When it’s o...
Fathom 15 | Listener Question: Knowing & Growing with Type 18.03.2021 20:27
In this Fathom 15, we talk briefly with one of our listeners in Malaysia, Chin Ai. Chin Ai is a Dominant Type 3 and had a question for the Fathoms co-hosts: “How do you draw the line between letting your type and dependencies become a self-fulfilling prophecy and proactively moving away from your type’s tendencies in a healthy and sustainable manner?” Abram (Dominant Type 9] on using the surface...
Interview | Addiction, Recovery & The Enneagram with Michael Naylor 11.03.2021 1:08:43
In this episode, the Seths and Drew talk with enneagram teacher and addiction expert Michael Naylor (4w5). Michael was kind enough to join us from his home in Portland, Maine and talk to us about the intersection of personality and addition. Michael is a wise soul with a wealth of insight. Enjoy! A bit about Michael and his enneagram origin story [3:40] Michael’s enneagram elevator pitch [7:30] I...
Fathom 15 | Listener Question: 3-Centered Presence 04.03.2021 16:01
In this Fathom 15, we talk briefly with one our listeners in Zambia (but from Zimbabwe), Stacey Madgwick. Stacey is a dominant Type 4 and had a question for the Fathoms co-hosts: “What does it look like for you to be present in your life in all 3 Centers of Intelligence (Body, Heart, Mind)?” Abram (Dominant Type 9] on reducing reactivity, not forcing the type’s agenda, being present to real pea...
Interview | The Trance of Type with Tom Condon (Part 2) 25.02.2021 51:56
As promised, here’s Part 2 of our conversation with enneagram LEGEND Tom Condon. We said it before and we’ll say it again: If you’re serious about enneagram work, you need to know Tom Condon’s enneagram work. In this episode we dig into some of the depths of each enneagram type. Enjoy! The hypnotic “trance” of our type [0:55] Age regression and age progression [6:15] Trances and group dynamics [11...
Interview | The Trance of Type with Tom Condon (Part 1) 18.02.2021 44:40
In this episode, the Seths and Drew talk with enneagram LEGEND Tom Condon. If you’re serious about enneagram work, you need to know Tom Condon’s enneagram work. There’s so much goodness in our conversation with Tom that we had to divide it up into two episodes. So enjoy Part 1 and stay tuned for Part 2 next week. Tom’s enneagram origin story [4:40] Tom’s experience as a dominant Type 6 [6:40] B...
Fathom 15 | Listener Question: Habits & Patterns 11.02.2021 12:38
In this Fathom 15, we talk briefly with one our listeners from “across the pond,” Stephen. Stephen is a dominant Type 8 and had a question for the Fathoms co-hosts: “What role does enneagram type play in habit formation?” How does the enneagram differ from other typologies when it comes to understanding habits and patterns? [4:15] Personality and potential [5:55] Drew explains the origins of “p...
Interview | Type as a Verb with Mario Sikora (Part 2) 28.01.2021 48:14
As promised, here is Part 2 with Enneagram teacher and executive coach Mario Sikora. If you missed Part 1, go listen to it and then follow it up with this episode. Mario has some interesting, innovative and, dare we say…controversial (to some) takes on the enneagram. HIs ability to translate some of the deeper concepts of the enneagram to the corporate sector is fascinating. Enjoy! Distinguishin...
Interview | Type as a Verb with Mario Sikora (Part 1) 28.01.2021 1:07:56
Buckle up friends! This is Part 1 of a two-parter with Enneagram teacher and executive coach Mario Sikora. Mario has some interesting, innovative and, dare we say…controversial (to some) takes on the enneagram. HIs ability to translate some of the deeper concepts of the enneagram to the corporate sector is fascinating. Enjoy and stay tuned for Part 2 next week! Abram sucks up to Mario [3:30] Ma...
Fathom 15 | Typing Strategies 21.01.2021 23:52
In this Fathom 15 episode, Drew and the Seths talk about enneagram typing. They cover how they each discovered their type and different typing strategies they recommend. This brief episode is perfect for any struggling to discover their dominant enneagram type. Listen and then go type thyself! Abram’s typing journey [1:45] Creek’s typing journey [3:15] Drew’s typing journey [4:10] Why for some ty...
Interview | Neuroscience & the Enneagram 14.01.2021 44:56
In this episode of Fathoms - An Enneagram Podcast, Creek and Drew talk with enneagram teacher and functional neurologist Dr. Jerome D. Lubbe. Jerome is an enneagram innovator and the author of The Brain-Based Enneagram: You Are Not A Number. We get into some really fun and interesting intersections of science and the enneagram, and also talk about some of Jerome’s innovative ideas with the enneagr...
Fathom 15 | Personality vs Personhood 07.01.2021 17:55
Fathom 15 | Personality vs. Personhood. What’s the difference between being a person and having a personality type? In this brief Fathom 15 episode, we talk about it. We contain multitudes. [2:00] You have a type. You are not your type.-Russ Hudson [4:35] Regarding the language we use to describe type [6:30] Knowing someone’s type doesn’t mean you know that person fully [9:00] Fractals of type [...
Conversation | Grief, Hope, & Kindness with Leslie Hershberger 31.12.2020 1:02:53
2020 was a dumpster fire, and we walk into 2021 with great expectations. On this New Year’s Eve, we offer to you a powerful conversation about this threshold from one year to the next with our dear friend Leslie Hershberger. It’s tempting to shake off the dust of this past year and never look back. Maybe there’s another way? How do we honor and integrate our pain and loss from this past year? [...
Conversation | The Advent of Ourselves with Jason Adam Miller 24.12.2020 47:42
Merry Christmas (Eve)! Tonight marks the end of Advent, and tomorrow begins Christmas-time! Enjoy this conversation with friend, pastor, and returning guest Jason Adam Miller of South Bend City Church. He shares with us a profound way to understand Advent in light of who we are…which leads us all to talk about the Advent of Ourselves for each Enneagram Type. The traditional 3 Advents [1:40] “It...
Interview | Enneagram & Spirituality with Nhien Vuong 17.12.2020 57:10
In this episode, we talk with enneagram teacher and ordained unity minister Rev. Nhien Vuong. Nhien is a dynamic and thoughtful teacher and helps us see the ways in which we “bond through pain is we show up the right way.” Soak in her wisdom and be sure to check out her work! Nhien’s story first encountering the enneagram [5:40] The importance of being kind to yourself [9:00] Nhien’s journey to...
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