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Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast
The Fathoms podcast is about serious work for unserious humans. We dive deep into the topics that make us human. Whether it's the Enneagram or just learning to ask better questions. There's never a shortage of gravity or levity, so hit play, let's get to it! This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy
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Jul 17, 2025
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Fathom 15 | Enneagram Elevator Pitch 10.12.2020 15:08
What if you were a). on an elevator, b). Someone you deeply admire and have always wanted to talked to joins you and c). Turns to you and asks, “What is the enneagram?”….what would you say? The Seths and Drew gave their attempts at their enneagram elevator pitches. Drew’s first attempt-“A framework of 9 pilgrimages of personhood…” [2:10] Creek-“9 Different ways we are falling asleep…” [2:40] Ab...
Interview | Narcissism & the Enneagram with Chuck DeGroat 03.12.2020 46:41
Greetings all you raging narcissists! In this episode of Fathoms, Drew and the Seths are joined by author, professor, counselor, and spiritual director Dr. Chuck DeGroat. We talk about his book, When Narcissism Comes to Church, which expands our stereotypical notions of narcissistic leaders through the lens of the enneagram. Abram quotes Russ Hudson re: coddling our own narcissism [3:12] The hi...
Meditation | Grateful Presence 26.11.2020 18:33
Creek & Abram have a quick conversation about how to practically apply the things we talk about in the previous Thanksgiving episode (check your podcast feed). Creek then leads us in a meditation that no matter where you are, is exactly what you need. — Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.” — Co-hosts: Seth Abram, Seth Creekmore, Drew Moser Producti...
Fathom 15 | The Work of Thanksgiving 26.11.2020 23:38
In this Fathom 15, the guys provide a timely conversation for those celebrating Thanksgiving in the U.S. Holidays with family can be uniquely stressful, even more so amid a global pandemic. We hope this short episode helps you get through the day. If you need a break from the political debate, go find a quiet room and have a listen. On our own experiences around the Thanksgiving table [1:35] 2 to...
Fathom 15 | The Depth We Need 19.11.2020 19:29
In this Fathom 15, the Seths and Drew explore this season’s guiding question: “What is your unique contribution to the enneagram conversation that provides the depth we need in our present world?” How this question is used in Season 2 [2:04] How the enneagram helps us see ourselves and how it helps us see the world [2:46] Solitary work that cannot be done alone [4:45] If you don’t tell the truth...
Interview | Cultivating Open-Heartedness with Nan Henson 12.11.2020 51:24
Drew and the Seths interview their teacher, the one and only Nan Henson. Nan is a master enneagram teacher based in Atlanta, Georgia. She’s one of a select few of Enneagram Institute authorized teachers in the world. Nan is the founder of Enneagram Atlanta and co-founder of Enneagram Georgia. And you’ll want to stick around to the end of this episode, because Nan leads us through a brief and powe...
Conversation | Season 2 Introduction 05.11.2020 27:34
Conversation | Season 2 Introduction Drew and the Seths spent a weekend at a cabin in the woods plotting and scheming their second season of Fathoms. They recorded a conversation to share what’s in store . . . An update on Creek & Drew’s quest to get Abram to move back to Indiana [0:25] The guys talk about their favorite moments from Season 1 [1:21] A confession: This is the first time all thre...
Fathoms | Season 2 Trailer 03.11.2020 3:36
We are so excited to share Season 2 with you, complete with some of our favorite conversations and guests. Our first full length episode drops THIS THURSDAY, November 5, with new content every week through March 2021. Don’t forget to subscribe so you don’t miss an episode! **If you like Fathoms, please leave a review!** Music: “Mending” by Kazi Jay — Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discove...
Finale | Season 1 Q & A 06.08.2020 1:02:20
To wrap up Fathoms’ first season, Abram, Creek, and Drew answer your questions! They cover a LOT of enneagram ground in this episode, and they call on some brilliant friends (and familiar voices to Fathoms listeners) to help. Thanks so much for listening. Stay in touch, and stay tuned for next season! “Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.” --- ** Subscribe to this podcast to mak...
Interview | Enneagram Of Discernment with Drew Moser 04.08.2020 48:47
It’s here! It’s finally here! Today our very own Drew Moser’s book, The Enneagram of Discernment: The Way of Vocation, Wisdom, & Practice launches into the world. To celebrate, Abram and Creek interview (roast?) Drew all about the book: why he wrote it, the writing process, and what makes the book unique from ALL the other enneagram books out there. Congrats Drew! Dr. Chuck DeGroat calls The Ennea...
Conversation | Conflict Styles 30.07.2020 32:15
Conflict is a part of life. In the default settings of out enneagram type, we too often encounter conflict in unhealthy ways. One of the lesser known triadic groups of the enneagram are the conflict styles. In this conversation, Abram, Creek, and Drew happen to each reside in a different conflict style. They introduce their conflict style, and talk about how we can better engage the conflict of li...
KOTC | The Tree Enneagram 23.07.2020 42:32
In this KOTC episode [KEVIN ON THE COUCH!], Creek and Drew talk again with Kevin Smith, who gives us a powerful example of a process approach to the enneagram; specifically, the enneagram of the tree. This is a very different approach to the enneagram, using the framework as a map of process rather than the more common enneagram of personality. If you can, listen to this episode outside in view of...
Fathom 15 | Identifying Gaps 21.07.2020 19:09
In this Fathom 15, Abram and Drew talk about the importance of identifying gaps in our own knowledge. They reveal some initial results of Drew’s Enneagram Fluency Quiz , and offer their own approaches to learning and growth. “Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.” Links: You can take the Ennearam Fluency Quiz yourself for free here: https://forms.gle/vFTtxv2J8ndUP8uq8 Submit a que...
KOTC | Gurdjieff: An Introduction with Kevin Smith 16.07.2020 35:08
In this first installment of "Kevin on the Couch" our brilliant friend, Kevin Smith, gives a quick overview of the mysterious and somewhat controversial figure George I. Gurdjieff who played an integral part in the development of the Enneagram. Put on your thinking caps as we go to a deeper fathom than we've gone before. “Discovering our inner depths…one fathom at a time.” Links: Books: In Search...
Fathom 15 | A New Now 14.07.2020 8:30
Creek leads us in a small reflection about our patterns and how our attempt to return to normal is often just our inability to see, experience and accept what is actually happening now. “Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.” Links: Wisdom of the Enneagram Submit a question for our upcoming Q & A Episode! You can record your question on Speakpipe: www.speakpipe.com/fathomspodcast...
Fathom 15 | Disappointment 07.07.2020 15:17
This is the feel good conversation we’ve all been waiting for. In this Fathom 15, Abram, Creek, and Drew talk about something we’ve all experienced this year: disappointment . When we experience disappointment, our type often shows up in full force. With attention and intention, our experiences of disappointment can be invitations to awareness, growth, and change. “Navigating our inner depths…one...
Interview | Systemic Racism & Systematic Work with Milton Stewart 02.07.2020 47:05
Interview | Systemic Racism & Systematic Work with Milton Stewart In this crucial conversation, Abram, Creek, and Drew talk with enneagram teacher and podcaster Milton Stewart about systemic racism and the need for each of us to do our inner work in order to be about the outward change we want. We cover a lot of ground: double consciousness, code switching, spiritual and racial bypassing, and mo...
Fathom 15 | Lines 30.06.2020 18:44
In this Fathom 15, Abram, Creek, and Drew talk about the interconnected lines in the enneagram framework. They discuss the cool math behind the lines, the prominent theories regarding the lines and how to work with the lines. “Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.” Links: 1 divided by 7 = .142857… Becoming Conscious , by Dr. Joseph Howell The Spiritual Dimension of the Enneagram ,...
Fathom 15 | Sourcing Resources 23.06.2020 15:59
In this short episode, Creek and Drew talk about some of their favorite enneagram resources, specifically those that are lesser known. For the sake of time, we left out a lot of great resources, so be on the lookout for another resource episode in the future. --- “Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.” Books (Abram’s recommendations included!) The Art of Typing by Ginger Lapid-Bogd...
Conversation | Meditation 101 18.06.2020 43:14
In this episode, Abram and Creek introduce and discuss meditation. What is it? Why is it important? How do you practice it? They help us realize how simple, and yet profound, paying attention to the present can be. Enjoy this episode, and then go on a slow walk and practice it! --- “Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.” --- Links: Submit a question for our upcoming Q & A Episode!...
Fathom 15 | The Two Sides of Emotion 16.06.2020 13:45
In this Fathom 15, Abram and Creek talk about the dominant emotion of each intelligence center within the enneagram framework. Our dominant emotions can be impairments or invitations. How do you see Anger, Sadness/Shame, or Fear in your life? What are these emotions trying to tell you? --- “Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.” --- Links: Chip Dodd’s The Voice of the Heart: A Call...
Meditation | Listening 09.06.2020 20:20
In this Fathom 15, Creeks leads us in a meditation exercise on listening. When we are overwhelmed by all that’s happening in our neighborhoods, our countries, and this world, one thing we can always do is LISTEN. --- “Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.” --- Links: Submit a question for our upcoming Q & A Episode! You can record your question on Speakpipe: www.speakpipe.com/fathom...
Bonus | Enneagram of Discernment Book Tease 04.06.2020 16:51
In this BONUS Fathom 15, Creeks talks with Drew about his soon-to-be-released book, The Enneagram of Discernment: The Way of Vocation, Wisdom, and Practice . The book officially drops on June 23, so consider this a preview. Drew talks about who the book is for, and shares a few insights into writing about the enneagram and what’s unique about THIS book amid the sea of other enneagram books out the...
Fathom 15 | 9 Stages of Enneagram Learning 02.06.2020 11:45
Amid our nation’s current crisis, words fail…but still matter. In this Fathom 15, Drew begins with a few words about the tragic death of George Floyd, and then outlines the 9 Stages of Enneagram Learning. Consider this a brief addendum to our previous episode on “Personality. Potential. Practice.” It we are going to change, we each must get beneath and through the confines of our personality type...
Conversation | Personality. Potential. Practice. 28.05.2020 52:26
In this episode Abram, Creek, and Drew talk about the beautiful and brutal journey of getting beneath PERSONALITY and living into our POTENTIAL by adopting PRACTICES for growth and transformation. ALSO: We announce an exciting giveaway, complete with not one, but THREE prizes! --- “Navigating our inner depths…one fathom at a time.” --- Links: Enter our giveaway via our Instagram feed: @fathoms....
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