Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast

Bonus | When the Enneagram Becomes a Religion This podcast uses the following third-party services for analysis: Podcorn - https://podcorn.com/privacy

In this bonus episode of Fathoms, we talked to the creators of the innovative enneagram resource, “Enneaflip,” Scott Allender & Ashlee Sikorski. Scott and Ashlee together form Sway Leadership, a leadership development and emotional intelligence consulting firm.  1:05 Who are Ashlee [Type 4] and Scott [Type 3]? 6:00 How did Ashlee and Scott invite the enneagram into their lives? 11:20 Some...

Merry Christmas from the Fathoms hosts (and Abram’s 5 month old son “Bear)! In this bonus episode we talk about all things Christmas.  2:50 When does Christmas start? 5:00 Our holiday traditions 8:55 The things that get into the spirit of Christmas.  11:00 Our fond childhood Christmas memories 16:15 Christmas and grief/pain 20:40 We finally talk about the enneagram 24:00 The power of cul...

In this episode we’re excited to welcome back enneagram and addiction expert Michael Naylor to talk about his recent book: The Alchemy of the Enneagram in Transforming Addiction 2:15 The hardest part of writing the book.  5:00 Michael’s intended audience(s) for the book.  8:15 How the enneagram offers additional insight into addiction.  12:30 Why he chose to use “alchemy” in the tit...

Today's episode is an interview we had with Christa Hardin of the Enneagram and Marriage podcast. This is prior to Lindsey joining us but we still thought you would enjoy this conversation about the seasons we find ourselves in and our own personal practices to help cultivate our own growth. — Fathoms | An Enneagram Podcast: “Discovering our inner depths, one fathom at a time.” — Co-hosts: Seth Ab...

We’re hard at work on Season 4. Thanks for your patience. In the meantime, enjoy this bonus episode introducing and getting to know our new co-host Lindsey Marks! Surprise!  2:45 - Lindsey’s enneagram story 6:30 - Lindsey’s enneagram training and work 7:30 - Lindsey’s personal growth “aha” moment 11:50 - What makes Lindsey sad 18:20 - What Lindsey brings to relationships.  20:57 - What w...

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Today we team up with the guys at the Art of Growth podcast, Jim Zartman and Joel Hubbard. Jim and Joel are trained in the Narrative Tradition of the enneagram and do some excellent enneagram work. We talked to them about their own stories and how the enneagram has helped them make sense of them. Our season theme of "story" plays a big role in how they approach their podcast and their work with cl...

We are hard at work crafting the final few episodes of season 3 and wanted to highlight this wonderful episode we did back in the beginning of season 1. If you listen carefully, you'll pick up the elements of story we've been mentioning throughout the season. Knowing your story. Knowing what stories to drop and Understanding the stories of others.  _________ In this episode we interview the brilli...

In this episode of Fathoms, we [Abram and Drew] are entirely and utterly Creekless but soldier on anyway to talk about the 9 Basic Propositions of the enneagram. These basic propositions, developed by the late Dr. David Daniels, provide a wealth of insight into the stories we try to live out from our character structure. 2:20 What is a "basic proposition"? 5:15 Type 1 8:10 Type 2 10:05 Type 3 [Dre...

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In this episode, Creek and Drew discuss how to handle the knowledge or the prediction when you know or encounter someone who is mistyped. How should one handle it? 01:33 Humility goes a long way 03:05 Start with the instincts 06:21 Being observative and compassionate with the person you’re interacting with 10:58 Examples with Russ Hudson and Nhien Vuong 13:40 Ask questions of curiosity, not passiv...

We’re all back together and today we’re talking with enneagram teacher Renee Rosario. Renee leads with Type 2 and is a core faculty member of The Narrative Tradition. Renee gives a winsome exploration of the heart and vision of the narrative approach, and provides some profound insight on the somatic insights of our stories.    3:35 A little bit about Renee and her enneagram story 7:25 A lightning...

We want your questions! We are in the process of wrapping up this season and per usual we will be doing a Q & A for our season finale. It's one of our favorite episodes to do and we want to hear from you! linktr.ee/fathoms.enneagram In the meantime, as we prepare the remainder of the episodes for this season, we wanted to highlight a few other podcast that we've found to be helpful in the realm of...

Fathom 15 | Can you change your number?  In this short episode, the Seths considered an often asked question (while Drew was on vacation): Can you change your enneagram number?  0:40 The Seths attack Drew’s character behind his back. Lame.  2:00 Can we change our enneagram type?  4:00 “We’re not as mushy . . .” 7:00 If we could change our number, should we want to?  8:30 Tom Condon: Dysfunctional...

Today, Enneagram teacher and executive coach Mario Sikora returns to speak with us. Mario is the author of ​​Awareness to Action: The Enneagram, Emotional Intelligence, and Change and co-host of the Enneagram in a Movie podcast. Mario shares his insight on rewriting our narrative and how to take action to work on the clay that is our brain. 1:46 The Inner Triangle and how to undo your story 7:29 A...

The Seths spend some time talking with our friend TJ Dawe [Type 4]. TJ is a writer, performer, director, and instructor. T.J. tells stories on stage and incorporates the enneagram into his work, helping others tell their stories on stage. Given our season’s theme of “story,” T.J. has some profound and winsome insight to help us tell our own stories.  3:45 T.J. Happens upon the enneagram 5:25 What...

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Now that we’re well into Season 3 of this show, we wanted to have a conversation about our podcast.   1:00 Our choice to include a wide array of enneagram voices 3:05 How the theme of story impacts the way we welcome guests to the show 8:30 The boundaries we keep 9:35 James P. Carse - Finite and Infinite Games 13:25 *Knowing* the enneagram vs. the process of becoming 16:45 Riffing on coping 19:20...

Today we get to spend some time with Ian Morgan Cron. You probably recognize Ian as co-author of The Road Back to You or host of the Typology podcast. We talk about his new book, The Story of You, the implications of the enneagram becoming “popular” and much more.  4:00 What led Ian to move to Nashville [aka his “punk move”] 6:45 Ian’s enneagram origin story 8:50 Ian’s experience as an “enneagram...

Today we’re joined by our good friend and returning guest, Lee Fields. Lee is a kind and brilliant soul, and helped us facilitate a fascinating conversation on the stories we live in the framework of fiction, memoir, and non-fiction.  2:20 Creek gives us all a pumpkin spiced latte update!  5:00 Lee on how temperament and personality develop the stories we hold 6:30 The brain as a pattern-finding m...

This was a fun, free-wheeling conversation on one of the lesser known foundational pieces to the modern enneagram: Oscar Ichazo’s Enneagram of Traps. The Traps are the ways each type falls into as a mistaken remedy to [attempt to] overcome the type’s mental fixation. Inspired by Abram’s Instagram series on the traps [@integratedenneagram] we riff on the fixations, the holy ideas, and how the traps...

In this week’s episode, we have the privilege of talking with the one and only Beatrice Chestnut. Beatrice joined us to talk about her new book with Uranio Paes, The Enneagram Guide to Waking Up. But, the conversation doesn’t stop there. We get to know Beatrice beyond her enneagram teaching and writing, and the result was a fun and meaningful conversation.  6:10 - Beatrice’s thoughts on the enneag...

The one, the only Dr. Jerome Wagner joins us for a conversation on the polarities of the enneagram types. Jerome brings some unique wisdom that he was kind enough to share. His four R’s are brilliant and helpful. Jerry’s books and teachings have been so foundational to the enneagram community that he was named an “Honorary Founder of the International Enneagram Association.” Enjoy this conversatio...

Welcome to another short episode where we answer one of the most googled enneagram questions: What’s the rarest enneagram type?  2:00 - Creek makes his case for the Type 4, and Abram thinks 9s and 4s are the ones asking the question 5:30 - Is it empirically possibly to know this?  6:30 - Raises the question: What’s the most common type?  7:30 - A theory about 3s, 6s, 9s 8:50 - Why do people want t...