Mary Jo Irmen
Farming Without the Bank Podcast
Welcome to the Farming Without the Bank podcast, the show with a no-B.S. approach to money, hosted by a farm strategy expert and authorized IBC practitioner. Join us as we get real and expose the flaws of traditional financial institutions in order to help farmers take control of their finances, create peace of mind, grow their wealth, and leave a legacy.https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/
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Mary Jo Irmen
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Oct 30, 2026
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Episodes
Ep. 28 - Client Interview: Austin Schultz 07.02.2020 28:22
Mary Jo welcomes to the show her client, Austin Schultz, from Stewardson, Illinois, to discuss how he has used the Infinite Banking Concept to relieve stress within his hog farming operation and in his life in general. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com
Ep. 27 - Bank Owned Life Insurance (BOLI) & Others Who've Started Well Known Businesses 31.01.2020 17:11
In this episode, I'll share with you how much money banks have in cash value in insurance policies and why it's so important for them to have it on their books. You'll also find out which household names are using and have used cash value insurance to start their businesses. Banks may not like farmers, but they really hate startup businesses. This pushes people to dig deep to find money to follow...
Ep. 26 - Client Interview: Geoff Pierce 24.01.2020 24:29
In this episode, I interview my client, Geoff Pierce from Nebraska. Geoff has been a client since 2016, and you'll hear all about his thoughts in the beginning, how he's using the policy now, slowing moving his operating over to his policy, and setting himself up to pass it off without debt. Hope you all enjoy hearing from Geoff! He's a great student of the Infinite Banking Concept and is applying...
Ep. 25 - 5 Principals of the Infinite Banking Concept 17.01.2020 22:31
To help you better understand where Nelson Nash was coming from when he created the Infinite Banking Concept, I break down his five main principals. As you will see, these all truly tie together when you start to try to figure out what IBC really is. These same principals will guide you through the process as you get into using your policy. They may seem simple, but simple things can sometimes kee...
Ep. 24 - Who's Running Your Operation 10.01.2020 19:16
Warning: Today's podcast may offend you or just plan tick you off. As a farmer, rancher, or anyone in the ag industry, you want to be self-employed. You pride yourself on the fact that you have no one to answer to... but do you? Are you allowing the bank and the accountant to run your operation? ...or are you running your operation? I dive into this very subject in today's podcast and break the co...
Ep. 23 - Common Objections to IBC 03.01.2020 26:12
Get the answers to the most common objections I hear from clients, things I read online, and people passing by at farm shows. I am sure you have heard these objections yourself if you've tried to share about IBC, or perhaps you've thought them yourself if you haven't read the book yet. There are objections to everything in life; we just have to think things through before brushing off what could b...
Ep. 22 - Money Flows from ONE Big Pool 27.12.2019 21:43
For no other reason, you may want to listen to this episode just to hear why Mary Jo is talking about people peeing in the pool. She will get into how money flows like water and blood, why you don't need to compartmentalize money like the gurus say, and how you need to think differently around money. Stop saying, "I can't," and start asking, "How can I?" It's a great episode and should make you th...
Ep. 21 - Why Haven't I Heard of This? 20.12.2019 19:38
In this episode, I talk about why IBC may sound too good to be true, why you haven't heard about this, and why I felt the same way when I came across this concept. It's truly a simple explanation, but it's profound, due to the fact that it was once known and widely used, but is now lost, due to the noise out there saying that we must chase rates of return. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - htt...
Ep. 20 - You Don't Make Money Taking Loans 13.12.2019 17:37
Don't get me wrong: taking loans is the best option in the policy, but I address why so many people think it's a money maker and why it's actually not. You will learn the difference between a loan repayment and a premium payment. In addition, you will understand being an honest banker and how that plays into creating wealth and keeping your company profitable. Audio Production by Podsworth Media -...
BONUS - Pay Taxes or Avoid Taxes? 29.11.2019 20:37
In this episode, I lay out when it may be wise to buy something to avoid taxes and when it may be wise to avoid buying things instead. There may be a self-check moment in here as well when I am talking about who's signing that final check for the purchase. Who is running your operation? You, the bank, or the accountant? It's a question you will be able to answer when you finish listening to this e...
Ep. 19 - The Federal Reserve, Fractional Reserve Banking, & the Birth of IRAs 28.11.2019 20:54
Today's episode is a little lesson on why inflation is killing our dollar and how it's affecting you. You'll hear how the banks make money and why they love your business. News flash: "Federal" does not necessarily mean "gov't owned"; in the case of the Federal Reserve, it's just good marketing by those behind it. Tune in and hear more about what is truly happening that you may not have been taugh...
Ep. 18 - Owning Insurance on Other People's Lives 22.11.2019 24:30
In this episode, I tackle the importance of owning insurance on other people's lives and answer important questions like: How do you go about doing that? How does the person being insured qualify for this? How do you legally protect this type of policy? What other things should you look out for? If you are farming with someone else aside from your spouse, you will not want to miss this episode. Au...
Ep. 17 - Size Doesn't Matter 15.11.2019 18:20
Get your mind out of the gutter! If you have ever wondered if your operation is too small or too large, your answers are in this episode! I even address those who don't have their own operation yet and how it is still feasible to start the IBC process. You'll also find out what really does matter. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com
Ep. 16 - Family and Business, with Jolene Brown 08.11.2019 43:11
This is a bit longer of an episode than normal, but you won't even notice! Jolene Brown and I visit about how to communicate with family, recognize their strengths, and run your operation like a business, not a family farm. If you have communication challenges, you will definitely want to tune in, as Jolene gives some great tips on how to resolve some of the most common challenges farming families...
Ep. 15 - Tax Advantages of Whole Life and IBC 01.11.2019 19:11
Many think there is some sort of loophole inside of the Infinite Banking Concept and that we are holding out on an awesome secret. In this episode, I talk about the fact that our secret is NOT a loophole, and there are some genuine tax advantages to whole life simply because the tax code favors it, just as it favors farmers in certain areas. It's not a magic bullet that allows us to sneak around t...
Ep. 14 - Dave Ramsey and Whole Life Insurance 25.10.2019 22:38
Why doesn't Dave like whole life insurance? This is a pretty common question, and in today's episode, I address my thoughts on Dave and why he doesn't like whole life insurance. You may find it interesting that I agree with Dave on why he doesn't like it. You will also hear why I like Dave, which may have something to do with him teaching some things I do not have the patience to teach. Audio Prod...
Ep. 13 - You Don't Have to be Debt Free to Start IBC 18.10.2019 21:45
This episode is all about getting started with IBC and getting over what you've been taught to think. There are times we want to do long-term loans so we have liquid cash and cash flow. That cash can then be utilized to benefit you and not the bank. This can put you in a position of greatness when times are tough and allow you to act when opportunities arise. We often think of returns on our money...
Ep. 12 - Diversification, with Joshua Citrus 04.10.2019 33:33
Many farmers talk about diversification within their own asset class. For example, planting different types of crops or growing different types of animals. What most farmers are not looking at is how to diversify outside that class and use the farm to add another stream of income of a completely different kind. In this episode, I talk to the folks at Joshua Citrus, and we learn what they did to su...
Ep. 11 - Life Insurance is NOT an Investment 20.09.2019 23:18
I am often asked to compare what I do to investments. In this episode, I ask you a question that most financial advisors will never ask. In addition, you are going to learn why whole life insurance is an "AND" asset and how important it is to have liquidity, control, and guarantees. These are ALL things most people do not talk about and why this concept is so misunderstood. Rates of return do not...
Ep. 10 - Your No. 1 Source and Creator of Value 06.09.2019 25:37
This episode will challenge your thought processes, yet again, so please open your minds before you hit play. I am going to talk to you about your number one source and creator of value, urge you to get this source insured, and discuss what happens when you don't feed it what it needs. Listen all the way to the end! You won't want to miss a minute of this episode. Audio Production by Podsworth Med...
Ep. 8 - Starting from Scratch vs. Taking Over an Operation 09.08.2019 22:25
Today we attack the age-old notion that it's easier to start farming when inheriting a family operation vs. starting from scratch. Mary Jo touches on the pros and cons of those taking over family operations and why it's not as easy as you may think. There are many reasons why those starting from scratch may actually have a leg up. Listen in if you want to have some of your ideas and thought proces...
Ep. 7 - Where Do I Find Money to Start IBC 26.07.2019 23:37
The biggest thing holding many folks back from starting IBC is the question of where to find the money to start the process. In this episode, I go over SIX different ways we can look for money to get started. It's all about how you think about money and how you utilize it. There is no reason to wait to get started. R. Nelson Nash, the founder of the Infinite Banking Concept, started the process at...
Ep. 6 - Farming with Millennials 12.07.2019 15:13
Love them or hate them, the millennial generation is here to challenge us, and I am loving every minute of it. They are truly looking ahead to see what can be done differently, questioning processes, and requiring lots of information before they make final decisions. If there is a generation to make the bank Plan B, it will be them, and everyone should welcome their ideas to make things better. Au...
Ep. 5 - The Reasons For Whole Life Insurance 28.06.2019 21:47
We're digging deep into life insurance today and talking about why we use dividend paying whole life with a mutual company for the Infinite Banking Concept. I also go into teaching mode to help you understand that not all life insurance is created equal, and terminology is not always correct. Listen to find out if you truly have the right product, or if you may end up dying without the life insura...
Ep. 4 - What is the Infinite Banking Concept 14.06.2019 21:09
Today we get down and dirty about what this Infinite Banking Concept actually is. You'll find out who the founder is, why he started it, and what we need to understand about the concept versus the life insurance policy. This is a very important episode that will equip you to decide if IBC is right for you and who you are going to work with going forward. You can either do it right with the right p...
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