Mary Jo Irmen

Farming Without the Bank Podcast

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Welcome to the Farming Without the Bank podcast, the show with a no-B.S. approach to money, hosted by a farm strategy expert and authorized IBC practitioner. Join us as we get real and expose the flaws of traditional financial institutions in order to help farmers take control of their finances, create peace of mind, grow their wealth, and leave a legacy.https://www.farmingwithoutthebank.com/

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Mary Jo Irmen

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Jul 10, 2026

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Episodes

Ep. 37 - Rolling 401K Money & Lump Sum Premiums 10.04.2020

I received some good questions about if one can roll 401k money into a life insurance policy and if one can do a lump sum premium with that money. In this episode, I answer that question and more. Audio Production by Podsworth Media.

Ep. 36 - Is Debt Bad? 03.04.2020

"Be debt-free. Owe no one any money." We hear this all the time, but is that truly the best? I talk about if all debt is either good or bad, that cash flow is king, and you better be making enough of that to pay for your debt. You'll also get a few talking points on if you should have cash value loans and if that debt is good or bad. Tune in and enjoy! Audio Production by Podsworth Media.

Ep. 35 - My Thoughts on the Market & Economy 27.03.2020

In this episode, I share my opinions on the market advice we get from others, "hang in there", the 10% "penalty", what is happening in the economy right now, and why it worries me. Audio Production by Podsworth Media.

Ep. 34 - Client Interview: Randy Morris 20.03.2020

I am so excited to have my client, Randy Morris, on for today's podcast interview. Randy lives in Kansas and not only has some great insight on the Infinite Banking Concept, but he also speaks about how he is helping the next generation get started. This is a bit longer episode, but you will find it very informative!

Ep. 33 - Buying and/or Selling Strategies 13.03.2020

So many people think the only option to buy is by going to the bank and borrowing money. Many who want to sell don't sell because of capital gains and the lost income. In this episode, I go over other options of how to sell while reducing taxes, protecting the estate, and making it affordable for those taking over, along with other ideas of how to get started. Audio Production by Podsworth Media.

Ep. 32 - Multiple Policies and No Plan is Perfect! 06.03.2020

So many people want to get this right the first time. They only want one policy that can do it all for their whole life. I talk about the fact that there is not a perfect plan out ther, we don't outline a plan on day one, and it's a continued learning experience. R. Nelson Nash said it's a system of policies. You will need more than one. Get over perfection and just get started! Audio Production b...

Ep. 31 - Why We Need Higher Interest Rates 28.02.2020

Before you go yelling at me, just take a minute to listen in and think about what is really happening in a low interest environment. Savers are being punished and spenders are out of control, and so are the banks. If Nelson could make it at 23%, why are we screaming when rates are 2-7%? Are we thinking long-term or short-term? I will discuss this all, and you'll get to hear my two cents, for what...

Ep. 30 - Why Don't I Get Access to All My Money Year One? 21.02.2020

In this episode, I talk about the upfront cost of starting a whole life policy and why we have a broken thought process and need to think long term. R. Nelson Nash talks about it in his book, "Becoming Your Own Banker"; we must THINK like a banker. We also must think like a business owner. I will share my thoughts with you, and yup, I get a little ornery in this episode. Audio Production by Podswo...

Ep. 29 - Premiums Equal Income 14.02.2020

R. Nelson Nash suggests this in his book, and it's a topic that has gotten lots of attention lately. I address my feelings about this and the need for patience in implementing this strategy. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com

Ep. 28 - Client Interview: Austin Schultz 07.02.2020

Mary Jo welcomes to the show her client, Austin Schultz, from Stewardson, Illinois, to discuss how he has used the Infinite Banking Concept to relieve stress within his hog farming operation and in his life in general. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com

Ep. 27 - Bank Owned Life Insurance (BOLI) & Others Who've Started Well Known Businesses 31.01.2020

In this episode, I'll share with you how much money banks have in cash value in insurance policies and why it's so important for them to have it on their books. You'll also find out which household names are using and have used cash value insurance to start their businesses. Banks may not like farmers, but they really hate startup businesses. This pushes people to dig deep to find money to follow...

Ep. 26 - Client Interview: Geoff Pierce 24.01.2020

In this episode, I interview my client, Geoff Pierce from Nebraska. Geoff has been a client since 2016, and you'll hear all about his thoughts in the beginning, how he's using the policy now, slowing moving his operating over to his policy, and setting himself up to pass it off without debt. Hope you all enjoy hearing from Geoff! He's a great student of the Infinite Banking Concept and is applying...

Ep. 25 - 5 Principals of the Infinite Banking Concept 17.01.2020

To help you better understand where Nelson Nash was coming from when he created the Infinite Banking Concept, I break down his five main principals. As you will see, these all truly tie together when you start to try to figure out what IBC really is. These same principals will guide you through the process as you get into using your policy. They may seem simple, but simple things can sometimes kee...

Ep. 24 - Who's Running Your Operation 10.01.2020

Warning: Today's podcast may offend you or just plan tick you off. As a farmer, rancher, or anyone in the ag industry, you want to be self-employed. You pride yourself on the fact that you have no one to answer to... but do you? Are you allowing the bank and the accountant to run your operation? ...or are you running your operation? I dive into this very subject in today's podcast and break the co...

Ep. 23 - Common Objections to IBC 03.01.2020

Get the answers to the most common objections I hear from clients, things I read online, and people passing by at farm shows. I am sure you have heard these objections yourself if you've tried to share about IBC, or perhaps you've thought them yourself if you haven't read the book yet. There are objections to everything in life; we just have to think things through before brushing off what could b...

Ep. 22 - Money Flows from ONE Big Pool 27.12.2019

For no other reason, you may want to listen to this episode just to hear why Mary Jo is talking about people peeing in the pool. She will get into how money flows like water and blood, why you don't need to compartmentalize money like the gurus say, and how you need to think differently around money. Stop saying, "I can't," and start asking, "How can I?" It's a great episode and should make you th...

Ep. 21 - Why Haven't I Heard of This? 20.12.2019

In this episode, I talk about why IBC may sound too good to be true, why you haven't heard about this, and why I felt the same way when I came across this concept. It's truly a simple explanation, but it's profound, due to the fact that it was once known and widely used, but is now lost, due to the noise out there saying that we must chase rates of return. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - htt...

Ep. 20 - You Don't Make Money Taking Loans 13.12.2019

Don't get me wrong: taking loans is the best option in the policy, but I address why so many people think it's a money maker and why it's actually not. You will learn the difference between a loan repayment and a premium payment. In addition, you will understand being an honest banker and how that plays into creating wealth and keeping your company profitable. Audio Production by Podsworth Media -...

BONUS - Pay Taxes or Avoid Taxes? 29.11.2019

In this episode, I lay out when it may be wise to buy something to avoid taxes and when it may be wise to avoid buying things instead. There may be a self-check moment in here as well when I am talking about who's signing that final check for the purchase. Who is running your operation? You, the bank, or the accountant? It's a question you will be able to answer when you finish listening to this e...

Ep. 19 - The Federal Reserve, Fractional Reserve Banking, & the Birth of IRAs 28.11.2019

Today's episode is a little lesson on why inflation is killing our dollar and how it's affecting you. You'll hear how the banks make money and why they love your business. News flash: "Federal" does not necessarily mean "gov't owned"; in the case of the Federal Reserve, it's just good marketing by those behind it. Tune in and hear more about what is truly happening that you may not have been taugh...

Ep. 18 - Owning Insurance on Other People's Lives 22.11.2019

In this episode, I tackle the importance of owning insurance on other people's lives and answer important questions like: How do you go about doing that? How does the person being insured qualify for this? How do you legally protect this type of policy? What other things should you look out for? If you are farming with someone else aside from your spouse, you will not want to miss this episode. Au...

Ep. 17 - Size Doesn't Matter 15.11.2019

Get your mind out of the gutter! If you have ever wondered if your operation is too small or too large, your answers are in this episode! I even address those who don't have their own operation yet and how it is still feasible to start the IBC process. You'll also find out what really does matter. Audio Production by Podsworth Media - https://podsworth.com

Ep. 16 - Family and Business, with Jolene Brown 08.11.2019

This is a bit longer of an episode than normal, but you won't even notice! Jolene Brown and I visit about how to communicate with family, recognize their strengths, and run your operation like a business, not a family farm. If you have communication challenges, you will definitely want to tune in, as Jolene gives some great tips on how to resolve some of the most common challenges farming families...

Ep. 15 - Tax Advantages of Whole Life and IBC 01.11.2019

Many think there is some sort of loophole inside of the Infinite Banking Concept and that we are holding out on an awesome secret. In this episode, I talk about the fact that our secret is NOT a loophole, and there are some genuine tax advantages to whole life simply because the tax code favors it, just as it favors farmers in certain areas. It's not a magic bullet that allows us to sneak around t...

Ep. 14 - Dave Ramsey and Whole Life Insurance 25.10.2019

Why doesn't Dave like whole life insurance? This is a pretty common question, and in today's episode, I address my thoughts on Dave and why he doesn't like whole life insurance. You may find it interesting that I agree with Dave on why he doesn't like it. You will also hear why I like Dave, which may have something to do with him teaching some things I do not have the patience to teach. Audio Prod...

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