Experiential Anatomy

Today, our hosts dive deeper into the world of healthcare as they discuss how death is viewed, experienced, and processed within the modern-day system. Joan offers insights on how physicians handle conversations about death with their patients and families, and the inherently flawed structure that prevents all bodies involved from thriving. Our hosts describe a vision for the future that they hope...

Listen in to the sounds of freezing, crunching rain as Joan reflects on the dying systems in healthcare and the new limits her body has set, while Jamie shares her new motivation to run and the importance of trusting our bodies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

In today’s episode, Joan and Jamie discuss the death of modernity and its large-scale systems. From mass co-dependence to the need to control others, they discuss the various structures of society that are slowly dying. On the practical level, they recount stories from personal experience of the various changes they see happening within the modern healthcare system. And they circle back to their S...

Listen in as Jamie and Joan share vulnerable moments from each of their families’ recent losses. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today we have our first guest, Caroline Lee, who joins Jamie and Joan to discuss death doulas. Caroline offers a brief overview of her Bay Area practice and how she got started in this unique line of work. Similar to giving birth, Caroline describes the routine steps that precede death and her role as a doula in making those transitions as smooth as possible for her patients and their families. Sh...

Listen in these voice memos to hear a sweet conversation between Joan and her child, along with several of Jamie’s recent experiences around death. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We’re back! Join our hosts, Jamie and Joan, as we dive into Season 2’s overarching theme of death. These two bring their easy laughter and levity to a heavy subject as they share their vision for this season. Discussing why death matters, they touch on the inextricable link between death and rebirth, and the unavoidable pain that accompanies us all on this journey of life. We’ll get a sneak peek a...

Listen in as Jamie shares her feelings on wrapping up Season 1 and Joan describes her much-anticipated concert experience! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Our season wraps today with our hosts talking about their understanding of death and how it affects our relationships with both our loved ones and our bodies. Joan and Jamie’s perspectives complement each other in unexpected ways as they both share how they have processed the concept of death and dying. Despite the weighty topic, the ladies bring their usual levity and brightness and tease us with...

Listen in as Jamie shares the joy of feeling settled in while Joan’s family takes on Florida! Be sure to check out Jamie’s workshop, Log Off & Tune In, on SATURDAY, DECEMBER 14th at 2 PM CST. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Today our hosts explore the principle of our bodies being committed to wholeness and vitality and the powerful impact this belief can have on everything–from each individual to our collective structural systems. Joan shares about her lifelong anxiety and how a shift towards this perspective changed how she experienced anxiousness, both in and out of patient rooms. And Jamie dives deeper into what...

Listen in, to hear Joan’s voice memo about a new bodily experience this week and Jamie’s appreciation for Joan’s embodiment progress. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Twin coughs can’t hold our hosts back as they express gratitude for their respiratory symptoms and dive into the topic of bodies being truth-tellers. They explore the idea that our bodies can’t lie, but sometimes the data they signal can be outdated. Jamie explains how diagnoses can be either helpful doorways or unhelpful destinations. And Joan shares a few stories about how this principle has mad...

Listen in as Joan and Jamie share voice memos from this past week about feeling life coursing through their bodies. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Did you know your body is alive? Today, Joan and Jamie explore the idea that our bodies are not inanimate objects that can be fully understood and controlled but, rather, our partners in this life requiring a communicative relationship. They discuss how transformative this concept was for their careers and share stories of how they now relate better to the bodies in their care. Listen in to better...

It’s the Jamie episode! Today we travel back in time with our hosts and journey along Jamie’s quest of finding her body. She shares that as an infant she failed to thrive, as an adolescent she brutalized her body, and as an adult, she burned out. But when she finally got curious and quiet, she learned what her body had been trying to communicate since the very beginning. Listen in as the hosts dis...

It’s the Joan episode! Today we get to hear all about the little girl who dreamed of being a teacher and instead followed both her parents’ footsteps to become a fifth-generation doctor. Joan shares with us when her deep need for certainty began in childhood and explains why she is now deliberately stepping away from that particular value. Jamie’s questions bring us insight into Joan’s life as a m...

We’re doing this! Welcome to our very first episode of Experiential Anatomy. We are Joan and Jamie and we love to talk about bodies–feeling them, healing them, and regulating them. Today, we’re sharing a bit about ourselves, why we are starting a podcast, and our vision for future conversations. We hope you’ll decide to listen in again next week and join us this season as we journey toward embodim...

When was the last time you experienced your anatomy? Join Joan Chan, MD, and Jamie Lee Finch, LMT, as they explore what's missing in the way modern healthcare experiences the body. They invite you to come sit with them and experience the beautiful, loving, complex person that is your body.  New episodes dropping on October 8, 2024! Listen and follow on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube. Learn m...