Jen Clinehens, Rob Voase

Everybody hates your brand

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A regular podcast from marketing veteran Rob Voase (sometimes with his co-host Jen Clinehens), who discuss everything from CRM to Customer experience to Brand to Marketing careers (with occasional swearing. Sorry Mum).

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Jen Clinehens, Rob Voase

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Business

Latest episode

Apr 20, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 66 - Talking Loyalty and the Psychology that drives it with Special Guest Mark Sage 20.04.2026

In this episode, we talk to Mark Sage. Mark is a Writer and Strategist who explores the Psychology behind loyalty and how brands can earn it. He’s got bags of practical experience in multiple markets, having worked on Nectar in the UK and Yuu Rewards in Hong Kong, from where he joined us for this podcast. External resources: Mark's Medium Writing - CLICK HERE Audio-Visual assets: Imagery: Photo by...

Episode 65 - Talking the role of CRM, AI and formal marketing training with Special Guest Gianfranco Cuzziol 07.04.2026

In the episode, we talk to Gianfranco Cuzziol. Gianfranco is a CRM and Personalisation Advisor, Speaker,  Author, Consultant and Educator.    He’s worked both client and agency side, leading global CRM for brands like Aesop. We talk about CRM dos and don'ts, the role of AI and his recently launched CRMBA – a Mini MBA designed for CRM and Loyalty practitioners. As an added extra, if you use the cod...

Episode 64 - Talking agency independence and martech problem solving with Special Guest Ian Reeves 10.02.2026

In this episode, we talk to Ian Reeves. Ian is the Managing Director of Flourish CRM, an independent, specialist CRM agency with offices in both Bristol in the UK and Dubai, where they create award-winning campaigns for clients like Nissan and Samsung. We talk about how an agency like his is, if you’ll pardon the obvious pun, flourishing in the febrile world of huge holding companies like Omnicom...

Episode 63 - Talking the power of AI and Humanity in building Customer Experiences with Antti Kangaslahti 25.11.2025

In today's episode, we talk to Antti Kangaslahti. Antti is a customer experience expert with over a decade of experience in top London agencies across a breadth of industries, including FMCG, technology, finance, telecoms, aviation, and education. We chat about the role of expectations in customer experience, why signature human experiences still matter in an industry increasingly obsessed with AI...

Episode 62 - Talking Agentic AI with Special Guest Simon Spyer 11.11.2025

In this episode, we talk to Simon Spyer. Simon is an entrepreneur and data-driven marketer with experience at some of the best agencies in the UK. 5 months ago, he struck out on his own and started the company Data Agents. Their focus is on helping businesses to determine when and how to use agentic AI to unlock the most value possible.  We cover what the right circumstances are for agentic AI to...

Episode 61 - Talking the complicated world of Martech and AI with Special Guest Rob Pellow 16.09.2025

In this episode, we talk to Rob Pellow, Executive Technical Director at the independent CRM agency Armadillo, based out of Bristol in the UK.   Rob is an expert in the somewhat labyrinthine and opaque world of martech and we talked about that world, its current obsession with integrating AI and where he thinks the future is going.   External resources: Armadillo's website - CLICK HERE Choice Hacki...

Episode 60 - Talking Video game marketing and inclusivity with Special Guest Angela Harding 12.08.2025

This episode features an interview with Angela Harding. Angela is a veteran of the video games industry, having spent over 19 years working at Activision Blizzard. She held many roles there, including VP of EMEA for the legendary and enduring Call of Duty franchise. But she moved on from that a year or so ago to co-found Inclusive People, whose mission is to empower technology organisations to unl...

Episode 59 - Talking about the point of Loyalty with special guest Adam Posner 28.07.2025

In this episode, we talk to Adam Posner, founder of the loyalty consultancy The Point of Loyalty. We cover the value of loyalty programs beyond the obvious, when a brand shouldn't have a loyalty program and how a brand's body language can really affect the success of its program.  External resources: The Point of Loyalty website - CLICK HERE For Love or Money report 2025 - CLICK HERE Audio-Visual...

Episode 58 - Talking Retail marketing, Loyalty and delicious chocolate with Amy Harman 24.06.2025

We're back. Sorry, it took a while! But we are back with a bang. We talk to Amy Harman, Head of Customer Marketing at Hotel Chocolat. We cover the idiosyncrasies of retail marketing, the value of Loyalty programs, the pitfalls of discounting and also mental health in the workplace.  Audio-Visual assets: Imagery: Photo by Matthew Brodeur on Unsplash Music: Hot Thang by Daniel Fridell. CLICK HERE Mu...

Episode 57 - Talking creative work, the art of copywriting and Neurodivergence with Special Guest Natalie Howells 04.03.2025

In this new episode, we talk to Natalie Howells - a copywriter, author, and all-round creative person. We cover two topics that are close to her heart. Firstly, how to get the most out of your creative teams, the crucial role of briefing and what impact AI is having and will have on the creative process. Secondly as the author of "Yeah, but how though? - Personal development for the Neurodivergent...

Season 5 Episode 1 - Talking Loyalty, CRM and AI with Special Guest Tom Phillips 21.01.2025

We've been away for a while but we're back with Season 5 of Everybody hates your brand. We talk to Tom Phillips. Tom has spent over 20 years in Strategy, working in some of the UK’s best marketing agencies with a focus on loyalty, CRM, and digital – so a man after my own heart.  He’s worked on brands like BP, Virgin, Costa Coffee, Nespresso, Halfords and Hotel Chocolat and shares that expertise in...

Season 4 Episode 7 - Talking AI and its impact on Marketing with Special Guest Simone Blakers 01.05.2024

In this episode we dive into the fascinating and slightly terrifying world of AI with special guest Simone Blakers. AI. You can’t move in marketing circles (or any business circles really) without someone mentioning AI and how it will help, hinder and/or take over everyones jobs. It’s a scary time for a lot of people but it also seems to be a big opportunity too. Today we are talking about all of...

Season 4 Episode 6 - Talking Loyalty with Special Guest Professor Yuping Liu-Thompkins 02.04.2024

In this episode, we go back to school by talking to Professor of Marketing  Yuping Liu-Thompkins.  Not content with being a Professor at Old Dominion University in the US, she is also the Founder and Director of Loyalty Science Lab whose mission is to create and promote cutting-edge scientific research on brand and customer loyalty.  We talk about what drives loyalty, the value of loyalty programs...

Season 4 Episode 5 - Talking Email Marketing and CRM with Special Guest Chad S White 27.02.2024

In this episode, we talk to Chad S White. Chad is Head of Research at the Oracle Digital Experience Agency,  Author of "Email Marketing Rules”, and contributor at marketing profs, CMSWire and Contributor. Basically, he is the voice of authority on email today. You can hear us chat about Email personalisation, the role of channels, testing strategies and what he would choose to put in our marketing...

Season 4 Episode 4 - What makes the Rapha Cycling Club a great loyalty program? 13.02.2024

In this episode we look into what makes the Rapha Cycling Club a great loyalty program. We cover the psychology behind its structure, the community it has built, and how it is helping build their brand.  External resources: Above Average YouTube Channel - CLICK HERE Rapha 500 YouTube video - CLICK HERE Audio-Visual assets: Imagery: Photo by Matthew Brodeur on Unsplash Music: Hot Thang by Daniel Fr...

Season 4 Episode 3 - Why targeting Gen-Z is really lazy marketing 08.01.2024

In this first episode of 2024, we discuss why targeting Gen-Z is really Lazy marketing and why marketers should stop doing it. External resources: Shane Gillis Stand-up clip - CLICK HERE IPSOS data - CLICK HERE Audio-Visual assets: Imagery: Photo by Matthew Brodeur on Unsplash Music: Hot Thang by Daniel Fridell. CLICK HERE Music: You oughta know by Rockin' for Decades. CLICK HERE

Season 4 Episode 2 - Celebrating our 50th episode by talking CX, Behavioural Science and more with Jen Clinehens 28.11.2023

We made it to 50 episodes! Admittedly slowly but hey - we got there in the end. To celebrate this milestone Jen Clinehens returns to the podcast. The former co-host of the podcast for the first 30 or so episodes returns to talk CX, AI and Behavioural Science.  We also cover building a business, Jen's entry in Marketing Room 101 and a discussion on Mark Ritson's view on US marketers. Which gets a l...

Season 4 Episode 1 - Talking data, insight and marketing tech with special guest Susan Rose 31.10.2023

Season 4 has arrived and we start with a cracking episode. We talk to Susan Rose who is an expert in customer-centric retail strategy and customer behavioural segmentation. She has worked in this field since joining Dunnhumby in 1991, where she was part of the team that developed and launched the highly acclaimed Tesco Clubcard loyalty programme. Since then she has founded multiple businesses incl...

Season 3 Episode 11 - Shining the harsh light of the scientific method on the world of advertising and marketing agencies with Special Guest Mark Razzell 31.05.2023

We have our first returning guest to the show. Mark Razzell was our first-ever guest in Episode 11 back in October 2020 when he was Director of Data and Insight at Clemenger BBDO in Melbourne, Australia. And we’ve got him back because he has just launched a new venture called Critical Truth which is designed to shine the harsh light of the scientific method on the world of advertising and marketin...

Season 3 Episode 10 - Talking starting, growing and selling marketing agencies with Special Guest Craig Wheeler 25.04.2023

In this episode, I talk to the Managing Director and Co-Founder of the marketing agency WDMP Craig Wheeler. We talk about how he started his agency, how they figured out the strategic direction over the years, the pitfalls of the pitch process and more.  Audio-Visual assets: Imagery: Photo by Matthew Brodeur on Unsplash Music: Hot Thang by Daniel Fridell. CLICK HERE Music: Letters to Burn by Rocki...

Season 3 Episode 9 - Talking data, experimental design, and analytics with Special Guest Mallika Kelkar 11.04.2023

In this episode, we talk to Mallika Kelkar, CRM and CX Senior Data Director at global marketing agency Iris Worldwide. We cover the tricky and sometimes seemingly impenetrable world of data analytics within Marketing. We take a journey through Experimental design, how to work with analysts and data scientists and the value, or otherwise of a dashboard. Audio-Visual assets: Imagery: Photo by Matthe...

Season 3 Episode 8 - Talking CX, CRM and customer expectations with Special Guest Lucy Halley 09.03.2023

We're back in the world of interviews with a bang. Customer Experience (CX) has been a big focus for clients and agencies alike over the last few years. Luckily, we have an expert in the shape of Lucy Halley - the Executive Head of Strategy at agency Havas CX Helia - to guide us through it in this episode. We cover what CX is, the role customer's expectations play in the perception of CX, the bloc...

Season 3 Episode 7 - Don't forget to destroy 07.02.2023

In this episode, we talk about why marketers shouldn’t be afraid to cut their losses, the 'Rob Recommends' feature covers Mark Ritson's latest article and you get the chance to see my face on a webinar. Perish the thought.  External links referenced: The Mark Ritson article. CLICK HERE The Webmart webinar. CLICK HERE Audio-Visual assets: Imagery: Photo by Matthew Brodeur on Unsplash Music: Hot Tha...

Season 3 Episode 6 - Marketing Room 101 Part 2 31.12.2022

In this episode, we make some new additions to the "Everybody hates your brand' Marketing Room 101 podcast. Marketing purgatory is starting to get full...... If you want to get in touch to suggest your own proposed entrants you can find us on Twitter and LinkedIn. Maybe you'll get them sent away for all eternity! External links referenced: Rob's Twitter account for Room 101 ideas. CLICK HERE Rob's...

Season 3 Episode 5 - How golf brands convince golfers to buy the same gear year after year 28.11.2022

In this episode, we talk about the marketing tactics that golf brands use in order to convince golfers to spend huge amounts of money to buy essentially the same equipment year after year. We cover three core tactics including some interesting Behavioural Science that you could apply to your own marketing tactics. External resources: Mark Crossfield video -  CLICK HERE Audio-Visual assets: Imagery...

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