Dying Out Loud Podcast

This is the episode closest to host Kris Saim's heart. Kris sits down with his "greatest teachers and proudest legacy", his children Kennedy and Jakob, for a raw conversation about family, forgiveness, and life lessons. They reflect on the challenges they survived together; divorce, Kris’s journey of coming out, and subsequent reinvention. Kris shares the letter he wrote, delivering a long-held co...

Host Kris Saim welcomes his colleague and friend, Julia Laszlo, founder of Ananda Experience and a human-centered leadership coach. Julia shares her journey from climbing the corporate ladder to burnout, prompting her to question the very definition of success she pursued. Kris and Julia’s friendship, which began with Kris’s immediate vulnerability about his cancer diagnosis , is living proof that...

Host Kris Saim celebrates a friendship that has endured and evolved for nearly three decades with his "great pal," Jaime O'Brien. Their story is a powerful exploration of loyalty and meaningful reconnection. Kris and Jaime discuss how their paths continually wove back together: from Kris being Jaime’s empowering boss to Kris becoming Jaime's realtor , and now, as peers leading a professional Maste...

Host Kris Saim sits down with his friend and colleague, Jesse Perez, for a conversation that cuts straight to the mission of Dying Out Loud. Jesse shares the story of losing his dear friend, Kendra Kates, to throat cancer , and discusses the pain of his "biggest regret" : the years their friendship drifted apart before her diagnosis brought them back together. Jesse, a DEI professional, was one of...

In the powerful inaugural episode of Dying Out Loud, host Kris Saim sits down with a guest who shares his exact diagnosis: stage four colon cancer. Guest Gina Jacobson, a leader of the global 'Working with Cancer' initiative , has outlived her initial prognosis by several years and is dedicated to helping others find purpose. This isn't a conversation about "fighting" cancer. In fact, both Kris an...

In this profoundly personal episode, host Kris Saim sits down with one of his closest friends, Alicia Botyrius. Their friendship was forged at work , but it was cemented during one of the darkest times in Kris's life: a difficult divorce that left him "spiraling out of control". While others might have stepped away, Alicia "stayed close" and "sat in the mess" with him. More than just listening, sh...

In one of the most emotional and important conversations of his life, host Kris Saim sits down with his mother, Sharon Saim. This is the conversation every parent and child dreads, and the one that matters most. Kris asks his mom the question at the very heart of their family's journey: "What's it like watching your child walk through a cancer diagnosis?". Sharon’s answer is a raw, honest look at...

Host Kris Saim sits down with his "great pal and fellow coach," Jen Ripa, for a conversation about the soul-deep friendship they forged later in life through a shared understanding of grief. Jen, a mother of four, shares the profound grief of losing her son, Oliver, to bone cancer and her husband to addiction. This journey led her to found Thrivologie , a company dedicated to helping people use th...