T.H. Irwin and Jessica Herzberg
Divorce etc... hosted by the exEXPERTS (T.H. and Jessica)
T.H. and Jess are best friends who lived parallel lives - engaged a month apart, married a month apart, and after 13 yrs found out their husbands were cheating and traveling with their girlfriends as couples...for years! Divorce etc... is a funny, uplifting, no-BS conversation with best friends who know how important friendship is during hard times. We've lived it, so we get it! We ask the hard questions to lawyers, financial advisors, therapists, dating experts and anyone who can help you get through divorce. You don't know what you don't know, but we do! @exexperts (TikTok, IG, FB)
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T.H. Irwin and Jessica Herzberg
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Jan 12, 2026
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Episodes
Sex Ed for Singles (Part 1) with Carli Blau | S2, Ep. 6 17.01.2022 41:50
Let's talk about sex, baby! So many of us coming out of divorce have been in a major dry spell, and now it's time to think about getting back out there and enjoying yourself in every way! This is a time to learn how to get over any fears, embarrassment or shame and realize that sex is amazing and it should be. It can be hard to speak up about your sexual wants and desires, especially with a new pa...
Dealing with Dissipation of Assets | S2, Ep. 5 16.01.2022 17:57
Even in a no-fault state, there are specific situations in which "wasteful" spending by your ex can be equalized during the financial settlement. Some examples include infidelity and gambling, but there are certainly more. In this episode you'll learn why it's so important to understand what dissipation of assets means and exactly what it refers to, to ensure you're getting everything you're entit...
Do I Need Discernment Therapy? | S2, Ep. 4 09.01.2022 27:02
Have you ever heard of discernment therapy? Neither had we, but it's not at all what you think. Unlike traditional marriage counseling, discernment therapy is actually for couples who aren't sure if they want to stay married - in fact, it's for couples where one person wants to save the marriage but the other one may not. The Marriage Place offers this specialized therapy and the concept of what i...
JUST US How Far We've Come | Season 2, Ep. 3 06.01.2022 29:48
Yes 2021 was another shit show of a year, but we've come a long way, baby! In this JUST US episode, Jess and T.H. go raw and uncensored. It brings tears and laughter as we go deeper than ever. Just like you, we've had ups and downs, triumphs and defeats, and everything in between - and we're still here, stronger than ever! Join us in giving yourself a little grace to recognize where you...
The Client-Lawyer Relationship & What You Need to Know | Season 2 Ep. 2 05.01.2022 20:11
Understanding the relationship between you and your divorce lawyer is a crucial part of the process, because if expectations aren't met (on either side), things can go badly. Boundaries, methods of communication, who works for you, the billing...these are all things you need to clarify at the very beginning. In this episode you'll hear the how to's and no do's of a client-attorney relationship. (G...
Why Does Anyone Even Care if You're Divorced? | S1, Ep. 64 30.12.2021 32:30
Why do you always have to check off the "divorced" box on medical forms, school forms and more for years after your divorce? Does the fact that you went through a divorce mean that has to be your identity forever? Listen to this fun and empowering conversation btwn Jessica and T.H. and two incredible women who are also best friends, and hear how the stigma and judgement around the topic of divorce...
Your Kids Are Most Important | S1, Ep. 63 28.12.2021 29:53
It's way too easy to get caught up in wanting to get back at your ex during divorce, even against your better judgement. And it's refreshing to hear a divorce lawyer say they would prefer their clients not fight over everything, and just focus on what's most important - the kids. Easier said than done, but this episode offers practical suggestions and ways to stay on track for the benefit of every...
"Gray Divorce" Estate Planning - Before, During and After Divorce | S1, Ep. 62 24.12.2021 22:44
Divorce over 50 is becoming more common, but the issues and finances need to be treated differently, as this is a time where retirement is a much bigger concern. If you're in this age group, this episode will give you the information and tips on the steps you must take right now, in order to best serve your needs during your divorce. (Guest: Laura Cowan, Trust & Estates Attorney) Follow us on...
Rebound Relationship or Real Thing? How do you know? | S1, Ep. 61 23.12.2021 32:40
Relationships after divorce can be tricky, particularly when it comes to knowing if it's really right, versus a rebound coming off your marriage. Rebound relationships don't have to be immediately after a divorce (or break-up), sometimes they can come months or years later...it's all about understanding where you are in your journey to be able to tell. Hear some of the signs that might indicate wh...
Different Options for Getting Divorced | S1, Ep. 60 22.12.2021 22:45
There are multiple ways that a couple can get divorced, and it's important to know and understand all of your options before choosing the path you take with your soon-to-be ex. The common options are litigation, mediation and collaborative divorce, and they all have different aspects that will affect your outcome. You may also find yourself integrating more than one of these options into your...
Sometimes You Just Need to Hear "It's OK" | S1, Ep. 59 21.12.2021 18:20
Society burdens women with an undue amount of responsibility and sense of failure when it comes to getting divorced, and this is a stigma we all have to work together to change. The reactions to women feeling sad, depressed and trying to deal with the adversity we face during divorce is very different than the way those same things are handled when men are going through it. At the end of the day,...
How Kids Handle the Holidays with Bella Duncan (@akidwithtwohomes) | S1, Ep. 58 20.12.2021 33:41
If you have kids, stop and listen to this episode! As hard as it is for parents of divorce to deal with the holidays, it's equally hard for our kids. We mean well, but we often say and do the wrong things, which can make it worse for the children (and us). This episode is filled with all the things kids think and want to say but don't, as well as things you may never have thought of, but that can...
How to Use a Therapist to Get Out of Your Marriage | S1, Ep. 57 20.12.2021 26:05
Making the decision to get a divorce is one of the most difficult things you can go through, and it can often take a long time to come to that conclusion. If you are in couple counseling and feeling like divorce is what you want, there are ways your therapist can help you to have that conversation with your partner in a productive way. This episode offers tips and advice on how to use your therapi...
Why Yoga? | S1, Ep. 56 19.12.2021 25:34
What if you hate yoga? How many times have you heard it...everyone saying to do yoga because it's THE answer for all the stress in your life. And who doesn't need help with stress during a divorce? But what if you don't like it...is there a way to learn to love yoga - if not for the mindfulness, then at least for the abs? Neither Jessica nor T.H. enjoy yoga, so listen to this conversation on the t...
Health & Diet Myths | S1, Ep. 55 19.12.2021 20:29
Thinking about revamping your food and exercise routine? Separation and divorce are a popular time to assess what's working or not, and to make some big changes. Revenge body, anyone? We asked all the questions about what's true versus what's a myth around some of the most common diets and workout routines. Listen up to get started on your own path to the best you yet! (Guest: Hillary Irwin, Nutri...
Tips to Protect Your Assets | S1, Ep. 54 17.12.2021 20:11
Assets are a huge concern when getting divorced - who gets what, and how can you protect what's yours? Plus, do you even know what your biggest asset is? Spoiler alert - it's not your home! Be sure to hear everything you need to know on the best ways to protect what you've got. (Guest: Stacy Francis, Francis Financial & Savvy Ladies) Follow us on Instagram @exexperts
How Religion and Spirituality Affect Divorce | S1, Ep. 53 14.12.2021 40:56
It's a sad fact that many people who get divorced often feel more shame and judgement about their divorce, based on their religious and cultural beliefs. Divorce doesn't just affect you and your partner and children...it affects all of your loved ones in some way - siblings, parents and friends. How do you navigate the feelings of letting other people down? Of feeling like you're doing something t...
Best Divorce Advice - Own Your Outcome | S1, Ep. 52 13.12.2021 25:53
In your divorce, would you rather be happy or would you rather be "right"? Realistically, your result won't end with both 100%, but there are a lot of ways to help focus on what matters most to you. And no judgments! Whichever you aim for, just be sure you're doing it for the right reasons - and own your own outcome! (Guest: Scott Orr, Family Law Attorney & Divorce Mediator)
Organizing Your Divorce with Divorce Rx | S1, Ep. 51 06.12.2021 37:58
Organizing your life during and after divorce is not just about the stuff, although that's certainly part of it. There are tons of logistics and household matters to handle, on top of everything out. Michelle Sarao started Divorce Rx to help everyone who needs assistance beyond color-coded bins. Hear her best tips on getting and keeping yourself on track when you need it most. (Guest: Michelle Sar...
Divorcing Without Children | S1, Ep. 50 03.12.2021 21:38
Is getting divorced if you don't have kids easier? And does assuming it is belittle the emotional and psychological toll that those divorces have on the respective spouses? There are a number of ways these divorces may be even harder or more challenging, and in this episode you'll hear why from a Real-Life Expert. (Guest: Helen Archontou, CEO YWCA Bergen County)
Co-Parenting Made Easy(ish)... | S1, Ep. 49 02.12.2021 26:23
Having kids switch back and forth between parents and homes is challenging, no question. And if they're very young, you may feel like you're constantly missing out on many important moments. It was this exact challenge that inspired Fiona Kong to create Home Sweet Homes journal, which is specifically designed for children and co-parents. Hear how this ingenious journal can help make co-parenting m...
Susan Guthrie on the Do's and Don'ts of Using Social Media During Your Divorce | S1, Ep. 48 29.11.2021 30:45
Using social media while in the midst of separation and divorce is a bad idea. There are too many nuggets that your ex can (and will!) use against you during the process. In this episode we give you all the do's and don'ts of using Instagram, Facebook, and more, so you can protect yourself. (Guest: Susan Guthrie, The Divorce & Beyond Podcast Host/Attorney/Mediator)
Take the Time For Yourself Right Now | S1, Ep. 46 24.11.2021 31:43
Taking the time to focus on yourself and practice self-care is especially difficult as you're going through a divorce. There are so many things you have to deal with, that it's easier than ever to let yourself fall to the bottom of the list. We're offering up a list of ways that you can make sure you're doing ok, and you might be surprised to hear some of the reasons why! (Guest: Jasmine Rice, Goo...
The Best Fitness & Health Apps for your Post-Divorce Body | S1, Ep. 45 18.11.2021 21:53
There are zillions of fitness and health apps available but which are the best for getting back into your best shape post-divorce? We break down the top apps and what they offer so you can choose the right one(s) to live your best life as you start this new chapter. (Guest: Hillary Irwin, Registered Dietician)
The Truth About Health Insurance After Divorce | S1, Ep. 44 12.11.2021 30:11
Health insurance is a complicated topic, but we break down what you need to know and when to deal with it. If you've been on your spouse's health insurance, you will need to know exactly what your options are after you're divorced. (Guest: Michele Chiellini, Ken Chiellini Benefit Solutions)
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