Megan Anna Neff & Patrick Casale

Divergent Conversations

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Dr. Megan Neff and Patrick Casale are two Neurodivergent therapists in a neurotypical world. During this podcast, they’ll talk about their own personal experiences as Autistic-ADHDers. They will reflect on their lived experience as AuDHD mental health professionals, and entrepreneurs, as well as offer clinical guidance, and support. Episodes will be conversational in nature, and they’ll interview other ND Folx to amplify the voices of other neurodivergent advocates and individuals as they share their authentic stories. New episodes will come out weekly, on all major platforms. Megan told Patri...

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Megan Anna Neff & Patrick Casale

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Health

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www.divergentpod.com

Latest episode

Feb 6, 2026

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Episodes

Episode 69: Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs (#5): Unmasking The Person and Professional [featuring Maureen Werrbach] 30.08.2024

Navigating the complexities of personal identity and public presentation can be incredibly challenging, especially for those in the neurodivergent community with later-in-life discovery who have crafted a well-established public identity and role. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, meet with Maureen Werrbach to discuss the complexities o...

Episode 68: Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs (#4): Rewiring Beliefs to Face Your Inner Critic [featuring Yunetta Smith] 23.08.2024

Neurodivergent individuals can sometimes feel overwhelmed by emotions or struggle to understand their own stress responses, and entrepreneurship can add another level of intensity to this experience. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Yunetta Smith, a licensed clinician, coach, trauma expert, and EMDR trainer, about the im...

Episode 67: Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs (#3): Balancing ADHD and Entrepreneurship [featuring Gabrielle Juliano-Villani] 16.08.2024

ADHD entrepreneurs can face unique challenges while balancing creativity, passion, and ideas with organization, implementation, and struggles with executive functioning. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Gabrielle Juliano-Villani, owner of GJV Consulting and Training and an ADHD entrepreneur, about ADHD's impact on entrepreneu...

Episode 66: Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs (#2): The Psychology of Entrepreneurship [featuring Corey Wilks] 09.08.2024

Entrepreneurship can on the surface appear to bring the promise of freedom and autonomy, but it also comes with unique psychological challenges that many neurodivergent entrepreneurs struggle to navigate. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Dr. Corey Wilks, a psychologist and executive coach, to explore the intersection of psych...

Episode 65: Neurodivergent Entrepreneurs (#1): An Introduction 02.08.2024

Entrepreneurship can be an attractive alternative for neurodivergent individuals to the traditional 9–5 jobs that cater to a society that is systemically structured to be more accommodating to neurotypical needs. However, being a neurodivergent entrepreneur comes with its own set of challenges and triumphs, from managing executive functioning to dealing with burnout.  In this episode, Patrick...

Episode 64: Ask The Audience (#2): Language for Autism, and Neurodivergent Therapists 26.07.2024

It’s natural to have many questions following neurodivergent discovery, diagnosis, or while embracing a new identity. Additionally, there are individuals who might not identify as neurodivergent but are curious about the very nuanced conversations happening in and around the neurodivergent community. In this second Ask The Audience episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental...

Episode 63: Ask The Audience (#1): Adult Autism, Identity Shifts, and Podcast Insights 19.07.2024

It’s natural to have a flood of questions following neurodivergent discovery, diagnosis, or while embracing a new identity. Additionally, there are individuals who might not identify as neurodivergent but just have curiosity about the very nuanced conversations happening in and around the neurodivergent community. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health pro...

Episode 62: In-Between Phase of an Autism Diagnosis: From Asking to Assessment [featuring Jak Levine-Pritzker] 12.07.2024

For adults who are questioning if they are Autistic, ADHD, etc., there is often an exploratory and somewhat confusing phase where they feel in between two different identities. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Jak Levine-Pritzker, ADHD coach and founder of Authentically ADHD LLC, about the nuances of navigating identity when...

Episode 61: ADHD & Romanticism: Reconciling Fantasies with Reality 05.07.2024

For ADHDers, romanticism is a common struggle where you find yourself constantly daydreaming about an ideal future and struggling with the reality of the present. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss the intricacies of romanticizing experiences and the repercussions that come with it. As neurodivergent mental health professionals,...

Episode 60: Understanding ADHD Tax: Impact, Personal Stories, and Management Strategies 28.06.2024

It’s common for ADHDers to feel these waves of inspiration that may lead to a romanticized version of the future that would come by acting on them. However, if action is taken, it alternatively might be accompanied by the ADHD tax—financial burden, over-commitment, broken dreams and promises, feelings of guilt and regret, etc. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD ment...

Episode 59: ADHD Interest-Based Nervous Systems 21.06.2024

Navigating the world with ADHD can present unique challenges, particularly when it comes to motivation and productivity. Whether it's the difficulty of getting started on mundane tasks or the complexities of staying engaged over time, the rollercoaster of emotional ups and downs can be hard to manage. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, d...

Episode 58: “What is ADHD?” (Part 4): Unpacking ADHD Impulsive Traits 14.06.2024

ADHD often brings unique challenges with impulsive behaviors which can make everyday interactions and tasks more complex. In an attempt to better understand the ways ADHD can present in daily life, this episode uses the DSM-5 diagnostic criteria as a framework for discussion—this is not an endorsement of the DSM-5. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health pr...

Episode 57: “What is ADHD?” (Part 3): Unpacking ADHD-Hyperactive Traits 07.06.2024

ADHD hyperactive traits are often misunderstood and the DSM-5’s portrayal of this type is heavily geared toward children and adolescents, which can make it harder to understand and address in adulthood. In an attempt to better understand the ways ADHD can present in daily life, this episode uses the DSM-5 diagnostic criteria as a framework for discussion—this is not an endorsement of the DSM-5. In...

Episode 56: “What is ADHD?” (Part 2): Unpacking ADHD-Inattentive Traits 31.05.2024

ADHD has many nuances and is often misunderstood and stereotyped. In an attempt to better understand the ways ADHD can present in daily life, this episode uses the DSM-5 diagnostic criteria as a framework for discussion—this is not an endorsement of the DSM-5. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk about the DSM-5 criteria for the inatt...

Episode 55: “What is ADHD?” (Part 1): Personal Stories and Professional Insights 24.05.2024

Navigating the identification, assessment, and diagnosis of ADHD as an adult can be confusing and overwhelming. This mini-series on ADHD focuses on demystifying the diagnostic criteria and making the process clearer and more understandable. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, dive into ADHD, breaking down what it means. This episode lays...

Episode 53: The Intersection of Autism and Eating Disorders [featuring Livia Sara] 10.05.2024

Autism and eating disorders have a complex relationship that until more recent years has been overlooked often resulting in traumatic approaches to recovery and a misunderstanding of the experience and mindset of Autistic individuals struggling with disordered eating. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Livia Sara, a recognized...

Episode 52: Understanding PMDD: The Link Between Hormonal Imbalances and Neurodivergence [featuring Jes Hagen] 03.05.2024

Premenstrual Dysphoric Disorder (PMDD) is an often misunderstood and misdiagnosed condition, and yet it has a profound impact on the lives of the women experiencing it. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Jes Hagen, a renowned nutritional therapist and NBC-HWC board-certified integrative menstrual health educator and coach, to e...

Episode 51: “What is Autism?” (Part 4): Special Interests and Complex Sensory Experiences 26.04.2024

Navigating a world packed with all sorts of seemingly mismatched sensations, either overstimulating or understimulating, and having passionate interests that can appear as all-consuming to others, can be challenging and greatly impact the way we build relationships and even just get through the day. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, tal...

Episode 50: “What is Autism?” (Part 3): The Complex Interplay of Routine, Control, and Flexibility 19.04.2024

For many Autistic individuals, the consistency of routines and rituals isn't just nice, it's a strategy to accommodate for the sensory needs of their systems. Routines are reflected both internally and externally, and the disruption of these routines can result in great distress. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk about the comfort...

Episode 49: "What is Autism?" (Part 2): Navigating the Social Labyrinth 12.04.2024

Navigating social relationships can be a complex, nuanced journey for Autistic people, and the way it presents in day-to-day interactions and situations is incredibly diverse. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss the complexities of friendship management for Autistic individuals, as well as explore the connection between relationsh...

Episode 48: “What is Autism?” (Part 1): Understanding Autistic Communication 05.04.2024

“What is autism?” This is a question that comes up a lot in more recent times, and the conversations around autism are extremely nuanced, making it hard to pinpoint one right way of looking at it, so let’s explore autism from what it means historically and clinically to how it represents an identity, and all the things in between. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD...

Episode 47: Autistic Burnout (Part 2): A Deep Dive Into The Diversity of Burnout 29.03.2024

Burnout can make even the simplest tasks feel insurmountable, as well as look and mean very different things when you approach it from the lens of neurodiversity, where the meanings, causes, and coping mechanisms become very nuanced. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Ann Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, explore the landscape of burnout, seasonal depression, and the importan...

Episode 46: Navigating Neurodiversity in the Workplace: Crafting Safe Spaces [featuring Lyric Rivera] 22.03.2024

A traditional workplace can be really challenging for neurodivergent individuals, and if a workplace culture is made to be one-size-fits-all, the chances are high that it won’t fit for many neurodivergent people. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Lyric Rivera, founder of NeuroDivergent Consulting, author, and later-in-life dia...

Episode 45: The Creative Sides of Autism + Advocacy Through Art [featuring Bret Malley] 15.03.2024

Creativity is a medium of expression and connection that often works well for neurodivergent individuals. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, are joined by Bret Malley, filmmaker, professor, late-in-life diagnosed Autistic person, and father of an Autistic son, for an enriching conversation that explores the intersection of autism and cre...

Episode 44: Sensory Shutdowns and Meltdowns: Navigating Neurodivergent Experiences 08.03.2024

Sensory meltdowns and shutdowns can be deeply misunderstood and unsettling experiences, whether you've faced them personally or seen a loved one struggle. For many Autistic individuals, dealing with overwhelming sensory stimuli is a recurring battle. The space between feeling in control and experiencing a complete sensory meltdown or shutdown can be alarmingly narrow, with profound impacts on pers...

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