Megan Anna Neff & Patrick Casale
Divergent Conversations
Dr. Megan Neff and Patrick Casale are two Neurodivergent therapists in a neurotypical world. During this podcast, they’ll talk about their own personal experiences as Autistic-ADHDers. They will reflect on their lived experience as AuDHD mental health professionals, and entrepreneurs, as well as offer clinical guidance, and support. Episodes will be conversational in nature, and they’ll interview other ND Folx to amplify the voices of other neurodivergent advocates and individuals as they share their authentic stories. New episodes will come out weekly, on all major platforms. Megan told Patri...
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Feb 6, 2026
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Episodes
Episode 144 (Season 5): Neurodivergent Advocacy in Turbulent Times and The Future of Divergent Conversations 06.02.2026 44:25
Living through uncertain times as a neurodivergent person can feel overwhelming, with the world constantly shifting and the weight of global and personal challenges piling up. In moments like these, knowing how to show up, preserve your energy, and find a sense of agency can be both confusing and crucial. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professional...
Episode 143: FLASHBACK — Chronic Health: All Brains Belong [featuring Dr. Mel Houser] 30.01.2026 56:00
Neuroimmune systems often intertwine with chronic health and neurodivergence, leaving neurodivergent individuals grappling with things like energy management, chronic fatigue, or other long-term health conditions. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, talk with Dr. Mel Houser, an Autistic family physician, about the intricate dyna...
Episode 142: FLASHBACK — AuDHD Burnout City: How Autistic and ADHD Burnout Collide and Compensate 23.01.2026 41:37
ADHD and Autistic burnout can feel like an endless cycle of overwhelm, exhaustion, and frustration—especially for those who live at the intersection of both identities. Many AuDHD individuals struggle to distinguish between ADHD burnout and autistic burnout, but understanding their overlap and unique challenges is crucial to finding compassionate, practical ways to support our mental health. In th...
Episode 141: FLASHBACK — OCD: I-CBT and Neurodivergent Approaches to OCD [featuring Brittany Goff] 16.01.2026 56:44
Neurodivergent individuals often find mental health topics like OCD, autism, and ADHD intertwined in ways that can complicate their personal narratives and self-identity. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss with Brittany Goff, an LCSW, the Clinical Director at Zen Psychological Center, and an instructor at the Cognitive...
Episode 140: FLASHBACK — Giftedness: Navigating Giftedness in Marginalized Communities [featuring Sheldon Gay] 09.01.2026 1:06:08
As a gifted, BIPOC individual, it can be uniquely challenging to navigate day-to-day experiences and find meaningful connections, especially prior to the discovery of giftedness. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, along with Sheldon Gay, an entrepreneur, podcast host, and the Vice-Chair of the neurodivergent-affirming non-profi...
Episode 139: FLASHBACK — Autistic Grief and Wellness: Holding Space for Hard Emotions 02.01.2026 55:19
Grieving the loss of a beloved pet or navigating collective trauma can feel overwhelming, especially for neurodivergent individuals who experience heightened attachment and sensitivity. This episode highlights the raw realities of grief, loss, and emotional processing, and explores the complexities unique to neurodivergent wellness journeys. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan...
Episode 138: FLASHBACK — Neurodivergent Realities, Rupture & Repair, and Podcast Updates 26.12.2025 47:19
Prioritizing wellness and authentic connection is essential for neurodivergent individuals, especially during times of low energy or change. This episode highlights how embracing interdependence, rest, and honest communication can support deeper well-being and resilience within both friendships and professional collaborations. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD ment...
Episode 137: FLASHBACK — Autistic Burnout City: Perpetual Sensory Hell 19.12.2025 46:25
Living with perpetual Autistic burnout can feel like navigating a world that’s always just a little too overwhelming, exhausting, or out of sync. For neurodivergent people, teasing apart burnout from depression and understanding how chronic sensory and emotional overload shapes daily life is not just challenging but key for self-advocacy and well-being. In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale an...
Episode 136: FLASHBACK — Autistic Burnout City: How Sensory Input Impacts Burnout 12.12.2025 51:37
Burnout isn’t just about exhaustion—it’s a sensory experience that can leave neurodivergent people feeling stretched to the breaking point. When every sound, smell, or texture feels overwhelming, how do we navigate recovery and build resilience in a world that rarely slows down? In this flashback episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss the co...
Episode 135 (Season 4): Neurodivergent Identity Arc for Later-in-Life Discovery 05.12.2025 46:47
The journey to understanding and integrating a later-in-life neurodivergent identity is often filled with relief, confusion, pride, growth, and other complex emotions—all woven together in a unique, personal arc. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss the “neurodivergent identity arc”—a model that explores how people move from the st...
Episode 134 (Season 4): Navigating Suicidality and Safety for Neurodivergent Minds 28.11.2025 38:39
Content Warning: This episode talks about suicide and may be triggering. If you're in crisis or feeling unsafe, please reach out to a crisis line or local resources. We have provided some below. Suicidal ideation and risk are common among neurodivergent people, and talking openly about suicidality is hard, especially in a society where honesty about these thoughts is often met with fear, stigma, o...
Episode 133 (Season 4): Is Everyone a Little Bit ADHD? 21.11.2025 33:28
The phrase "everyone’s a little bit ADHD" is coming up more and more lately—but for those who are genuinely ADHD, this can feel dismissive and invalidating. In a world speeding up with constant distractions and increasing demands, society has begun to blur the lines with what the actual difference is between experiencing ADHD traits and living with ADHD as a neurotype. In this episode, Patrick Cas...
Episode 132 (Season 4): Is Everyone a Little Bit Autistic? 14.11.2025 31:52
Hearing "everyone is a little bit Autistic" can feel invalidating and diminish the distinct experiences of Autistic individuals. These comments, often rooted in misunderstanding or attempted empathy, reveal how language shapes—and sometimes distorts—public understanding of Autism. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss the common phr...
Episode 131 (Season 4): Why ADHD Isn’t About Being Lazy or Unmotivated 07.11.2025 37:36
Struggling with being labeled "lazy" or "unmotivated" as someone with ADHD can fuel deep shame and misunderstanding. These stereotypes overlook the real challenges and complexities neurodivergent people face every day, especially when it comes to executive functioning and self-worth. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss the pervasi...
Episode 130 (Season 4): Intelligence Myths About ADHD and Autism 31.10.2025 28:28
Challenging the stigma that ADHD and Autism are linked to intelligence is critical for fostering self-acceptance and equity in neurodivergent communities. Myths about intellectual ability not only misunderstand neurodiversity but also perpetuate harmful stereotypes and barriers to support. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss the p...
Episode 129 (Season 4): Breaking Down Language and Labels in Autism Advocacy 24.10.2025 35:08
The language we use to describe Autistic experiences can shape not only how we see ourselves, but how our needs are understood—or overlooked—by others. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss the topic of functioning labels in Autistic spaces. Through direct exploration of their own journeys, they unpack the reasons behind the prevale...
Episode 128 (Season 4): Do Autistic People Want Social Connection? 17.10.2025 45:00
Autistic people are often stereotyped as uninterested in social connection, but the reality is far more nuanced, and longing for connection can coexist with the need for isolation or sensory protection. Understanding your own capacity and motivation for relationships isn’t just helpful, it’s often a key part of self-acceptance. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD men...
Episode 127 (Season 4): Landmark College: Neuro-Inclusive College to Career Transitions [featuring Jan Coplan] 10.10.2025 1:03:20
Navigating the transition from education to the workplace is challenging for anyone, but neurodivergent individuals face unique barriers, from inaccessible application processes to the pressure of masking during interviews and employment. Understanding what actually helps—and hinders—neurodivergent people thrive at work is crucial for both job-seekers and employers who want truly inclusive environ...
Episode 126 (Season 4): Am I Still Me? Post-Diagnosis Identity Spiral 03.10.2025 29:43
Discovering you're Autistic or ADHD as an adult can turn your whole sense of self upside down. Navigating the emotional aftermath—wondering, "Am I still me?"—often brings up more questions than answers, and can feel both destabilizing and deeply transformative. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, discuss the post-diagnosis identity spiral...
Episode 125 (Season 4): Hidden Shame of ADHD: Restlessness, Relationships, and Post-Discovery Impact 26.09.2025 44:54
Discovering you’re ADHD later in life can be a profound and disorienting experience—especially when it means re-examining your relationships, identity, and even your sense of self. For many ADHD adults, the post-diagnosis journey brings unique challenges and unexpected waves of both relief and shame. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professionals, di...
Episode 124 (Season 4): Epiphanies and Apologies: Processing Life After Autism and ADHD Discovery 19.09.2025 47:55
After discovering you’re Autistic or have ADHD, you most likely started to re-examine the past—and the realization of missed cues or misunderstood moments can bring up nostalgia, relief, and even regret. Revisiting friendships, relationships, and life events through a newly understood neurodivergent lens is often emotional but also essential for self-understanding. In this episode, Patrick Casale...
Episode 123 (Season 4): Not an Epidemic: Behind the Rise in Autism Diagnoses [featuring Dr. Donna Henderson] 12.09.2025 1:18:41
Language matters, especially when it shapes how we, as neurodivergent people, are seen and understood. Conversations about an alleged "Autism epidemic" are everywhere—and can lead to misinformation, stigma, and feelings of shame for Autistic people and families. This episode aims to untangle the myths versus realities, providing crucial clarity and validation in a world full of loaded headlines. I...
Episode 122 (Season 4): Claiming Your Neurodivergent Identity: Discovery and What Comes Next 05.09.2025 46:54
Learning you’re Autistic or ADHD—whether through diagnosis, self-identification, or discovery—can spark relief, uncertainty, and a cascade of new questions. Navigating not only the process of finding out, but also what happens next, is a profound and often emotional journey for many neurodivergent adults. In this episode, Patrick Casale and Dr. Megan Anna Neff, two AuDHD mental health professional...
Episode 121 (Season 3): Burnout City: Burnout Symptoms at a Cellular Level [featuring Dr. Mel Houser] 29.08.2025 49:52
Understanding the root causes behind Autistic burnout symptoms can feel confusing, especially when physical symptoms are present but dismissed or misunderstood. Many in the neurodivergent community face not only emotional exhaustion but a web of hidden medical conditions that often go undiagnosed, leaving them searching for seemingly elusive answers and support. In this episode, Patrick Casale and...
Episode 120 (Season 3): Burnout City Finale: Boundaries, Self-Advocacy, and Accommodations 22.08.2025 44:26
Advocating for your needs and setting boundaries as a neurodivergent person can be incredibly challenging—especially in environments that don’t always understand or prioritize accommodations for invisible disabilities. Navigating burnout and building a life that supports your well-being is not just about self-care; it’s about learning how to advocate for yourself in ways that are sustainable and a...
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