Borderlands Trail Running
DFL Before DNF
Hosted by Josh Rosenthal, Borderlands Trail Running Welcome to Season 3 of DFL Before DNF. This season is a celebration of the great ultrarunning courses. In each episode, the course is the hero through the eyes of someone who is training for it or who has run it. Season 1 of this podcast propelled me to finish the Zion 100. This is evergreen content for anyone going after something big. Season 2 featured some great brands in trail running. Check out our new mobile app, Wylder. We want it to be the center of your run club.
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Jul 7, 2026
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Episodes
From Baseball to Ultrarunning, Maurten Sponsors Hardrock [Wolfie's World] 08.04.2025 30:29
Wylder is available on iOS + Android . In this episode of Wolfie's World, Brian discusses Maurten's sponsorship of the Hard Rock 100 and its implications for the trail running community. He reflects on his personal journey from a childhood centered around baseball and basketball to discovering a passion for running. Brian shares how his identity evolved from being part of the music scene to embrac...
Bad Takes on Trail Running Current Events: Cam Hanes + Courtney, Max to BPN, AZ Monster vs Cocodona 07.04.2025 48:30
[Wylder is now available on iOS ] Wolfie joins Josh on another Bad Runners Take where they look at current events and offer unique perspectives. Why does Courtney Dauwalter do more with Cam Haines than the expected trail running news outlets like Singletrack or Freetrail? Max Jolliffe goes to Bare Nutrition Products (BPN) Can the Arizona Monster dethrone Cocodona as the premier 200+ mile race Does...
Borderlands: 3 Year Anniversary 03.04.2025 24:41
In this special episode celebrating the three-year anniversary of Borderlands, I reflect on the journey of building a community around trail running. I emphasize the importance of inclusivity in the sport, focusing on the heart of trail running rather than great performances. Josh introduces the Wylder app as a tool for fostering community among runners and discusses the challenges of monetization...
Chianti: the Race We Wanted + Needed [Wolfie's World] 01.04.2025 30:59
[Wolfie's World] Jim Walmsley, Killian Jornet, and Vincent Bouillard delivered on expectations and gave us the race we all wanted and needed. Hosted by Wolfie ---- Partners ---- Wylder - Host and find Run Clubs, schedule public and private group runs Naked Sports Innovations - the worlds best hydration belt Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races . Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025 PATH Projects - My fav...
The Running Shoe Revolution You May Not Know About 31.03.2025 30:58
Jurian Elstgeest founded 4T2 to put his own stamp on footwear and running culture. Read its manifesto and you'll see things like 'running is substance, not appearance' and 'running is made of rituals'. 4T2's community is small but growing. It feels like there's a seed of this community in every major running market in the world. *correction: 4T2 is HQed in Haarlem, not Amsterdam 4t2.run ---- Partn...
Is Jurek or Walmsley the Male GOAT of WSER? AJW + Wolfie: STATES DEBATES 2.0. 28.03.2025 40:57
Who is the male GOAT of WSER? Today, we're joined by ultratrail running legend Andy Jones Wilkins ( Crack a Brew with AJW ) to debate Wolfie . Wolfie defends that Jim Walmsley is the GOAT while AJW takes the Scott Jurek position. ---- Partners ---- Wylder - Host and find Run Clubs, schedule public and private group runs Naked Sports Innovations - the worlds best hydration belt Salt Lake Footshills...
Nike Trail Running: the Big Bad Wolf or Best of the Best? 26.03.2025 42:14
Taylor (lead trail reviewer of Believe in the Run ) and I are long overdue on a Nike Trail Running episode. They often get painted as the big bad wolf but today is not that kind of review. We're looking at their incredible trail team roster + analyzing their footwear philosophy and portfolio. In this episode Josh learns there is such thing as a 'colorist' whose job is to create colorways. If you a...
Buy/Sell: David Roche, Portal, the Speed Project, Self-Expression in Nutrition, Walmsley x UTMB 24.03.2025 40:30
Buy / Sell - What are we bearish and bullish on in ultra running. Josh and Wolfie talk through it. Will David Roche win or blow up at WSER 2025? Is Portal poised to takeover? Can Mikey Kratzer finish the Speed Project solo? Can the self-expression branding movement work in Nutrition? Will Jim Walmsley get another UTMB Main Event Victory in his career? ---- Partners ---- Wylder - Host and find Run...
What are the Effects of Marijuana + Alcohol on Running? 20.03.2025 36:34
Jesse Rich of Nutrition Rundown talks about the impact and effects of marijuana and alcohol on running. Alcohol affects nutrient absorption, particularly B vitamins. Mental clarity and motivation can be affected by alcohol. CBD is non-psychoactive and can aid in relaxation and sleep. THC is psychoactive and can affect heart rate and anxiety levels. Cannabis may be a safer alternative to alcohol fo...
Reflections on the First 'States Debate' [Wolfie's World] 18.03.2025 23:10
The States Debates sparked a unique conversation about Western States. Brian reflects on his performance evaluating his strengths and weaknesses. He goes further to say that the current landscape of ultrarunners may not lionize WSER like the previous. This is an opportunity for WSER to progress and remain the premiuer American Ultra. Also, WSER toes the line on appealing to amateurs and elites. Ev...
Wind + Fire at Oklahoma Ultra, French Ultra Kit Requirements, & Training for 100+ Milers 17.03.2025 16:22
There was a wind event in Stillwater, OK causing problems at MidSouth Gravel . The crazy wind led to fires requiring runners to be extracted from the course. EcoTrail Paris - I'm running a 50 miler this weekend that starts outside of Paris and ends on the Eiffel Tower. Pack requirements are different than any event I've run in America. Ryan Ramsby ran Cocodona and is preparing for Tahoe 200 in 202...
Is Western States Vulnerable to a New Premier American Trail Race? [States Debates] 13.03.2025 56:00
STATES DEBATES - is the epitome of fandom. We're diving into States three months before race day to build anticipation and get even more excited than years past. Western States is the most enjoyable race to watch in all of American Ultrarunning. It's a national championship of sorts that enjoys resting at the top of all American events. But can it maintain that dominance or is it vulnerable? Brian...
Training, Recovery, Nutrition, and Hydration: Trail Runner Juggling [Wolfie's World] 11.03.2025 22:00
In this episode of Wolfies World, Brian discusses the concept of being a 'running juggler' in ultra running, emphasizing the importance of balancing various aspects of training, recovery, nutrition, and hydration. He highlights the need for strength training, the impact of sleep on performance, and the significance of proper fueling during runs. The conversation encourages listeners to be mindful...
How Many TRAIL RUNNERS Are There? 10.03.2025 30:01
Ever wondered how many trail runners are out there? From casual joggers to ultra-marathon enthusiasts, trail running has become an increasingly popular sport. But just how many people are lacing up their trail running shoes and hitting the trails? Mikey Yablong, who currently attends Dartmouth University, co-authored a study aiming to answer this question along with dozens more. You'll be surprise...
How to Actually Finish an Ultra Marathon 06.03.2025 25:10
I chatted with Elsa Jaworski about how she keeps running when she wants to quit. She has ran multiple 200 mile+ races, multiple 100 mile races, and more. In this episode we explore how she keeps going when she wants to quit. It's the most important question for us novices who are endeavoring to do something as big as an ultramarathon. This is a throwback to the very first episode of this podcast....
JIM WALMSLEY IS BACK [Wolfie's World *911*] 05.03.2025 17:25
BREAKING NEWS: Jim Walmsley is back at Chianti by UTMB. What does this mean? Is Kilian Jornet going to be there? ---- Partners ---- Wylder - Host and find Run Clubs, schedule public and private group runs Naked Sports Innovations - the worlds best hydration belt TMRW Coffee - Code Borderlands for 20% off Salt Lake Footshills Trail Races . Salt Lake City, UT - May 31, 2025 PATH Projects - My favori...
[Wolfie’s World] The Greatest Era of Running | Running as Performance Art 04.03.2025 22:40
We are in the greatest era for runners, blending performance and self-expression into 'performance art.' He reflects on the cultural influences of running, comparing it to past eras of other cultural movements, and explores the potential for running to leave a lasting legacy in the broader cultural landscape. Brian encourages listeners to embrace their unique expressions in running and to consider...
The Heart of Trail Running [Vision Update] 03.03.2025 15:20
This podcast has grown by 2.15x in the last 60 days. Thank you. There are lot of new listeners here so I wanted to take a few minutes and give them (and the old listeners!) an update on what's going on around here. Podcast Wylder App Open Range Races Robie House @ Wser + UTMB Trail Running League I'm also working on a new apparel drop + everything you need to be prepared for a 100+ mile race calle...
FIVE Mobile Apps for Runners (not Called STRAVA) 27.02.2025 42:52
What mobile apps are available to runners? Sure, we can go run without any of this but for those curious, what apps are adding value to runners all over the world? What is the role of AI in running mobile apps? Sam Duregger is a digital product master as the former head of Digital Transformation for the State Oklahoma, Head of Order Ahead for 3,600 at Sonic, fraction Head of Product at Final Surge...
[Wolfie’s World] Running Gear: Performance or Persona? 25.02.2025 22:49
Today on Wolfie's World, Brian analyzes gear as persona versus gear as performance. For years, gear was optimized for performance and brands were built around products. Now, brands are emerging that appeal to the personas we're all building out on the ultratrail. Wolfie works through the 'running as self expression' list of brands and breaks down the movement. ---- Partners ---- Wylder - Host and...
The Trail Running League is Happening 24.02.2025 44:04
The trail running league is going to happen and we're working our way through the details in today's episode. What will the trail running teams look like? What will the competitions look like? Will we have head to head competitions? Round robin play and then playoffs? We're getting close and we hope you're all as stoked as we are. Also, the (Western) States Debates are coming. Get ready. There are...
Running Nutrition: What you ACTUALLY need 21.02.2025 32:58
Josh and Jesse Rich discuss the legitimacy of various nutrition products. What are the products that are worth the money? How can we make some of this stuff at home and save the money? What ever happened to Spring Energy and its Awesomesauce debacle? Follow Jesse for deeper insights and homemade running nutrition insights. Takeaways High sodium intake is essential for some runners during long even...
[Wolfie’s World] Failure at Jackpot 100 20.02.2025 15:50
This is a special edition of Wolfie's World where Brian dissecets the embarassment of Jackpot 100. The winner of USATF event, Rajpaul Pannu was disqualified for wearing the wrong shoes. Where was the RD? Where was USATF? Where was Rajpaul and his team? Hosted by Wolfie . ---- Partners ---- Wylder - host and find run clubs and group runs. Naked Sports Innovations - the worlds best hydration belt TM...
[Wolfie's World] Are We Overthinking Running? + the Joy of Crewing 18.02.2025 25:16
Runner's threatened to take down the Jackpot 100 record but weren't close. Runners were running sub-14 hour 100s in the late 1800s with 1% of the technology. How much are the bells and whistles of running helping us perform better? ---- Partners ---- Wylder - Discover and create run clubs, schedule private or public runs. Naked Sports Innovations - the worlds best hydration belt TMRW Coffee - Code...
Altra and Topo Athletic: Wildly Similar/Different Shoes 17.02.2025 59:47
Josh Rosenthal and Taylor Bodin (Lead Trail Reviewer, Believe in the Run ) discuss the evolution of Altra and Topo Athletic - two running shoe brands that have become staples at every ultramarathon starting line. In recent years they have been competing for similar types of runners. And when brands compete, runners win. I didn’t know much about Topo Athletic going into this discussion. I look forw...
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