Olivia & Caitlin
Counselors Craft a Curious Path
Hi, we're two therapists exploring creativity, psychology, neurodiversity, and our own lived experience to craft a curious complex in a complex world. Come co-create with us!
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Oct 2, 2025
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Episodes
Ep 19: The Tower 02.10.2025 38:20
The Tower!!! In this episode, we use archetypal role-play and dialogue we explore the symbolism of the Tower tarot card and its implications for personal growth. We discuss the emotional impact of navigating relationships, the importance of finding meaning in destruction, and the process of rebuilding after significant life changes.
Ep 18: The Devil 23.09.2025 52:18
Today we’re diving into the Devil card in Tarot. We play around with roleplay, stepping into both Devil and Angel vibes to explore those inner tug-of-wars. Along the way, we get into how relationships shape who we are, what energy we bring into them, and how those push-pull dynamics actually teach us a lot. At the heart of it, this episode is about self-discovery—facing the messy stuff, embracing...
Ep 17: The Monster 16.09.2025 31:47
Grab some tissues if you're sensitive, cuz this one brought us both to tears while engaging in it! After exploring the archetype of The Lovers Olivia shared that there is a "monster" within her. This episode explores just that! Through emotional dialogue and role play, we confront the 'monster' within, representing pain and fear, and work towards finding peace and understa...
Ep 16: The Lovers 09.09.2025 33:28
Today we're exploring The Lovers in Caitlin engaging through archetypal role play . Here we delve into the complexities of love, relationships, and personal identity and discuss the balance between individuality and union in relationships, the pain of isolation, and the importance of acknowledging one's inner struggles. This leads to Olivia sharing that there is a "monster" w...
Ep 15: The Magician 02.09.2025 53:22
In this episode, we explore the archetype of the Magician. Caitlin engages in roleplaying the role of the Magician in herself. Our conversation emphasizes the importance of intention, creativity, and the integration of magical elements into daily life, while also addressing the challenges of expressing one's magical self in a world that may not always understand it.
Ep 14: The Fool in Caitlin 26.08.2025 44:41
In this episode, we explore the archetype of The Fool inside Caitlin, discussing its significance in therapy and personal growth. The conversation highlights the collaboration of various archetypes within oneself and the necessity of integrating playfulness into daily life.
Ep 13: The Wounded Healer 19.08.2025 35:10
In this conversation, we explore the archetype of the wounded healer, and discuss some of our personal journeys as therapists and how our experiences shape our practice. We emphasize the importance of embracing imperfection, creating safe spaces for clients, and the transformative power of joy in therapy. We also lean into the significance of curiosity and reframing narratives in therapeutic sett...
Ep 12: Animal Archetypes (Round 2) 12.08.2025 39:30
In this episode, we dive back into the wild and wonderful world of animal archetypes and role play in therapy. We talk about why playfulness and self-reflection are so important, and what happens when you really become a character—fur, feathers, and all. From emotional discoveries to the power of stillness, we explore how stepping into different roles can open up new ways of understanding ourselve...
Ep 11: Animal Archeytpes (Round 1) 05.08.2025 51:54
In this episode we dive into the world of animal archetypes using Kim Kranz's Animal Spirit Deck. Join us as they explore the transformative power of embodying animal spirits like the Hawk, Butterfly, and Stingray. Through role-play and personal insights, we share how these archetypes can help us understand our inner selves and navigate life's challenges. Tune in for a journey of self-...
Ep 10: The Emperor: Tapping into Leadership and Strength 29.07.2025 50:04
In this episode, we explore the transformative power of archetypes through role-playing, focusing on the Emperor. We discuss the importance of vulnerability, the cost of emotional energy, and how play can facilitate healing. The conversation delves into personal reflections on identity, leadership, and the impact of joy in therapeutic settings. Through role-play, we embody different archetypes, ex...
Ep 9: The Fool: Tapping into Uncertainty 21.07.2025 50:13
Today we explore the archetype of the Fool from Tarot, discussing its implications on identity, authenticity, and the journey of self-discovery. Olivia shares her experiences as a new therapist, navigating client relationships and the fear of not being enough. The conversation emphasizes the importance of playfulness, creativity, and embracing ambiguity in both therapy and personal growth. They al...
Ep 8: The Empress: Tapping into the Inner Mother 14.07.2025 53:39
In this conversation, we explore the themes of motherhood through the lens of the Empress tarot card. The conversation delves into fertility choices, the role of archetypes in personal growth, and the significance of play and vulnerability in therapy. Here we also also reflect on their podcast journey, the challenges of authenticity, and the power of community in navigating these experiences.
Ep 7: The High Priestess- Exploring Identity through Tarot and Creativity 08.07.2025 39:21
In this episode, we dive into how identity, creativity, and therapy connect—using tarot and artistic expression as our guides. We chat about why it’s so powerful to tap into our inner wisdom, how being vulnerable plays a huge part in therapy, and why bringing playfulness into the mix matters. Through role‑play and fun prompts, we show how all these elements can come alive in therapy and personal g...
Ep. 6: Breaking the Script 01.07.2025 48:03
In this episode, we're honing in on a specefic topic. Here we unpack what it means to break social scripts—especially as neurodivergent people. We share real-life moments, talk self-regulation, overstimulation, and the role of play, all while exploring how to build more supportive and authentic connections. Can you relate? Message us and share your story!
Ep 5: Open Conversation -Final In Person Chat 24.06.2025 42:43
It's our last in person chat before Caitlin moves out of state. The next episodes will be more focused on specific topics and hopefully become a helpful resource for folks! Thanks for following along as we've worked to discover what we want this podcast to be.
Ep 4: Open Conversation - Change and Grief 17.06.2025 55:20
Alright, in this episode, we're diving into themes like change, grief, and the messy parts of going through life transitions. We're sharing some personal stories about moving, the emotional weight that comes with saying goodbye, and figuring out who we are along the way. We talk about what it means to really connect with people, and how tough it can be to keep relationships steady when e...
Ep 3: Open Conversation - Merging Art and Therapy 10.06.2025 59:18
In this episode, we’re talking about neurodiversity, self-expression, and how art and therapy overlap in cool, unexpected ways. We get into the joy of really owning who you are, the tricky parts of unmasking around other people, and how music and art have helped us grow and understand ourselves better.
Ep 2: Open Conversation - The Complexities of Gathering 03.06.2025 34:27
In this episode, we’re chatting about creativity, what it means to be an artist, and all the weird, complicated stuff that comes with social gatherings. We talk about how hosting can be stressful, how you can still feel lonely even when you’re surrounded by people, and why being real in your art matters. We also get into the expectations we put on our relationships and how having a little structur...
Ep 1: Open Conversation- Journey of Self Discovery 27.05.2025 40:06
We’re totally figuring this podcast thing out as we go—no plan, just diving in with the drive to make something real, ready or not! In this episode, we talk about where therapy and creativity meet, share some personal reflections, and chat about what it means to model healthy behavior in therapy. We also get into how the mental health system shapes things, and toss around the idea of “wisdom downl...
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