Corporate Legal Operations Consortium
CLOC Talk
Tune in to CLOC Talk every other week to discover thought leaders hailing from corporate law departments, law firms, legal technology enterprises, legal services firms, consulting services providers, and academia. You may just find the meaning of life.
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Episodes
Introducing the CLOC Talk Brand Remix v2 11.05.2023 2:24
Tech, Transformation and The Meaning of Life. That is what CLOC Talk is all about. To celebrate CGI next week, we are updating our look. In this quick mini-episode, Jenn introduces our new look and sends a major shout-out to designer Stephanie Player.
Please Welcome Our AI overlords 11.05.2023 38:54
Jenn catches up with MIT-educated product developer and friend Dave Bredesen about the future of AI. Dave has some new thoughts about large language models and how they may change how we work in the future. Spoiler Alert: It's awesome.
The Magic of Collaboration 04.05.2023 29:03
In this flashback to CGI 2022 compilation episode, Jenn , Tom , and Carl interview attendees in the hallway to share their learnings and experiences at the event. Themes from these conversations include vulnerability, the next-gen of leaders, and the value of in-person collaboration.
The Answer is Yes 27.04.2023 23:39
On this episode, we're sliding into host Jenn McCarron's LinkedIn DM's and reading the juicy questions that you all are asking. Listen with us as we help our audience with their burning legal ops questions. We are 3 weeks away from CGI VEGAS!!! Don't miss out. Get your tickets today!!!
The Journey is the Destination 20.04.2023 32:06
Host Jenn McCarron discusses the evolving Legal Ops career path with Co-host Tommie Ferreira , Head of Legal Operations at Cedar. The two discuss the unique journeys that helped them develop the skills that have brought them to their current roles. Later in the episode, the Director of Legal Operations at Cloud Software, Adrienne Schaal joins them to share her story. Don't forget to join us in Veg...
Mentorship Moment 13.04.2023 27:15
Marie Widmer, Senior Legal Operations Manager, Technology at Hubspot, slides into host Jenn McCarron's LinkedIn DM's for a legal ops pep-talk that leaves Jenn asking who was supposed to be mentoring who. Don't forget to buy your tickets to CGI Vegas 2023 . On sale now!!
Legal Ops Learning Lab with Brian Tang 06.04.2023 16:11
As we ramp up to CGI 2023 we join Jenn McCarron as she interviews Brian Tang , from the LITE Lab at the University of Hong Kong , in the moments after CGI 2022 wrapped. Brian takes us behind the scene of the LITE LAB and how the project got started. And we have to mention that Brian was the 2022 CLOC Legal Innovation in Operations (LIO) Project Awards winner. For more information about the 2022 CL...
The Power of Vulnerability 30.03.2023 18:45
Legal ops pioneer and leader Frances Pomposo joined host Jenn McCarron in the podcast lounge after her powerful CGI 2022 opening session. This dynamic duo discusses the power of vulnerability, the meteoric evolution of the legal ops industry, and what it so often comes down to - change management.
Salvation 23.03.2023 30:59
Basha Rubin , CEO & Co-Founder at Priori Legal, and Jacqueline Schafer , CEO & Co-Founder of Clearbrief, join host Jenn McCarron and ca-host Tommie Ferreira to continue the conversation about the rise of the machines in legal operations and tech. These legal AI innovators ponder if AI just might be the salvation that all lawyers have been waiting for.
The Rise of the Machines 16.03.2023 41:44
Thomson Reuters Senior Council, Raees Nakhuda , and Product Executive, Nick Vandivere join host Jenn McCarron and co-host Tommie Ferreira to discuss the evolving and changing landscape of Artificial Intelligence and Machine Learning. In their conversation, they debunk some misconceptions about AI and share real-world opportunities for machine learning. Thank you to Thomson Reuters for sponsoring t...
LIVE from New York! It's Legal Ops 09.03.2023 42:09
This week we go on tour, with host Jennifer McCarron , Head of Legal Operations and Tech at Netflix, and CLOC Talk co-host Tommie Ferreira , Head of Legal Operations at Cedar, live from the CLOC stage in New York. Special thanks to our audience participants: Sandy Karow , Lewis Bretts , Matt Patel , and Stacy Walsh . And a very special thanks to our sponsors: Malbec , Brightflag , and Thomso...
How to Creative 02.03.2023 38:20
Jo Vong , of Plaid, and Sheena Ferrari, of Zendesk, join Jenn in her studio to continue the conversation about how to feed your creative impulses while being a legal ops leader. In this casual legal ops chit-chat Jo, Sheena, and Jenn lay out the creative tools they use at work, the best chicken recipes, and why everything needs to be in the right place.
Real Talk with Mary O'Carroll 23.02.2023 17:00
Mary O’Carroll , Chief Community Officer at Ironclad, and host Jenn McCarron catch up with a real talk session after their latest Ironclad webinar. This no holds barred conversation will have you laughing and crying as these two legal ops innovators go deep. Level Up Your Legal Ops Webinar SHOW NOTES: Document management solutions for in-house - Friend or folklore? ChatGPT - how will it impact the...
Across the Legal Ops Galaxy 15.02.2023 56:24
Jason Barnwell , General Manager for Digital Transformation of Corporate, External, and Legal Affairs at Microsoft, and Jae Um , Founder & Executive Director at Six Parsecs, join CLOC Talk host Jenn McCarron to discuss a wide range of juicy legal ops topics. They cover everything from the difference between rules and principles to effective leadership styles and all the multitudes in between....
The Revolution Will Not Be Televised 09.02.2023 46:14
David Cowen is a connector. For 20 years, he's connected major players across the legal industry. He is also the founder of SOLID. In today's episode of CLOC Talk, Jenn, and David discuss imposter syndrome and how you can stay inspired and curious in today's legal ops ecosystem. Check out SOLID here: https://www.solid.legal/
Inclusion: It's an Inside Job - A Conversation with Netflix's Director of Inclusion Strategy, Cristina Hernandez 01.02.2023 23:11
Jenn McCarron interviews her colleague Director of Global Inclusion Initiatives & Insights at Netflix, Cristina Hernandez about her role and passion for inclusion in the workplace. Link to article Cristina mentions in the episode: https://hbr.org/2021/12/connect-with-empathy-but-lead-with-compassion
Authenticity & Creativity in Hypergrowth Legal Environments - 3 Legal Ops Leaders Reflect 26.01.2023 31:57
Listen to legal ops leaders, Jenn McCarron , Jo Vong, and Sheena Ferrari discuss how they've leveraged creative outlets to inspire their work. The group also discusses how building confidence in showing up authentically has been a journey to fulfillment and success.
Scarred Not Scared – Leveraging Lessons Learned from CLM Failures 01.11.2022 43:35
In this episode CLOC Talk host, Jenn McCarron is joined co-host Tommie Ferreira , Director of Legal Operations at Peloton Interactive. Jenn and Tommie sit down with Chad Aboud , a former General Counsel at an international tech company and Colin Levy , Director of Legal and Evangelist at Malbek and get real about the failures and pains along the CLM implementation path. Their discussion covers: Le...
Driving Adaptable Change Through Storytelling (Live from London) 01.11.2022 41:20
Jenn McCarron leads the opening session at the 2022 CLOC EMEA Summit discussing the art of storytelling in professional contexts with Maurus Schreyvoge l and Emer Kelly . Listen to the group discuss driving change through a narrative arch. Act I - The Characters: Getting to know your protagonists and influencers. Act II - The Conflict: Understanding the and the hesitations. Act II - The Resolution...
Set Up for Success - Foundations of a Triumphant Legal Ops Career (Live from London) 01.11.2022 13:35
Jenn McCarron sits down with Legal Ops 101 speaker, Adam Becker and attendee, Camilla Berglund to discuss easy and early wins for the new legal ops professional. Their conversation covers: The objective of CLOC's Legal Ops 101 foundational training Leaning in and learning from the legal ops community Leveraging small moments to demonstrate your expertise A special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live f...
To Go Far, Go Together - Building Long-term Relationships with Your Outside Counsel (Live from London) 01.11.2022 20:06
Co-Host, Nick Cranfield discusses a genuine partnering approach that is needed to make a success of delivering innovative legal services with David Halliwell and Michael Zollner of Pinsent Masons Vario. Together they discuss: The market shift from transactional to transformational client and counsel relationships Establishing long-term plans and goals together Signs of successful relationships A s...
Hallway Conversations - Favorite Swag to Key Lessons Learned (Live from London) 01.11.2022 41:23
Co-Hosts Nick Cranfield and Jenn McCarron take you around the CLOC EMEA Summit hallways talking to attendees and sponsors. This episode will transport you to the center of the event action. Listen in to hear attendees discuss their favorite take-a-ways, both learning and swag. A special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live from London sponsors, Pinsent Masons .
Riffing on Mics with Mike - What's Wrong with CLM and Learning to Fly at Altitude in Legal Ops with Innovation and Storytelling (Live from London) 01.11.2022 18:35
Jenn McCarron sits down with Mike Naughton , Vice President of Marketing at legal tech startup, xMentium, to weave tales and tips on marketing, storytelling and reveal a slew of legal ops hot tips for success. Key takeaways include: The role of language in contracting Meeting Lawyers where they are, and wrapping service layers around the rest Take risks, take a point of view, take a guess, keep yo...
Real Talk with Jenn & Mary - London Edition (Live from London) 01.11.2022 18:15
Industry leaders, Jenn McCarron and Mary O'Carroll are back sharing their unfiltered thoughts and hot takes. Listen in to their chat on: What they're reading HOT TAKE: Where you should really start Why lawyers hate CLM Career paths A special thank you to our CLOC Talk Live from London sponsors, Pinsent Masons.
The Compassionate Leader - Preventing burnout with compassion, curiosity and community (Live from London) 01.11.2022 35:23
Jenn McCarron sits down with global recruitment strategy leader, and self-described Neurodiversity Warrior, Colin Minto to discuss the importance of compassion and understanding for leaders moving us into the future. Some tips discussed include: Use curiosity paired with compassion as a tool to understand your colleagues' individual struggles Understand people from an emotional index with active l...
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