CLOC Talk

AI is reshaping legal operations, but what happens when technology breaks down barriers beyond just efficiency? In this episode, Andre Barrow from DeepL joins Jeremiah Kincannon on the CGI Exchange Stage to explore how AI-powered language tools are making global collaboration smoother and more effective. The conversation digs into the mindset shift required to embrace AI in an industry slow to ada...

Great presentations don’t just happen, they’re crafted. In this episode, Jenn McCarron sits down with 2025 CGI keynote, Nancy Rademaker and her colleague, Mandy Schild from The Speakers Club to break down the essential elements of powerful communication. The conversation explores how to balance content, design, and delivery to keep audiences engaged, whether in-person or virtually. They discuss th...

From a pandemic-born idea to a thriving conversation hub, CLOC Talk Live has hit 100 episodes! In this special milestone edition, Jenn McCarron is joined by David Cambria and Matt Rubbelke to reflect on the journey of legal operations, technology, and community-building. They dive into the evolution of legal tech, the power of mentorship, and the growing influence of AI, while exploring how legal...

Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie. Thank you to our wellness sponsor, Spotdraft.

Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie. Thank you to our wellness sponsor, Spotdraft.

Start your day with an audio guided meditation by Lisa Konie. Thank you to our wellness sponsor, Spotdraft.

In this special episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Rachel St. Peter , Global Head of Legal Operations & Functional Excellence, Nestlé and member of our EMEA Advisory Committee, leads a panel discussion on the future of the legal ops profession with Kristin Zmrhal , Vice President of Product Strategy at DISCO, and Melissa Sauser , Legal Tech Manager for Phi...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Jenn sits down with closing keynote speaker, Helena Boschi , Psychologist, Speaker, and Educator at Chequered Leopard.  They chat about leading teams to a healthier, more innovative future. From learning new skills to mastering the art of daydreaming, Helena shares insights on how divergent thinking can spark cre...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Jenn sits down with Sam Ross , Chief Legal Officer at Remote.   Sam shares his intriguing past as a member of a boy band and his thoughts on transitioning from music to legal operations. They chat about Sam's approach to hiring, emphasizing the importance of hunger, curiosity, and pragmatism over specific ex...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from the CLOC EMEA Summit in London, Guest Host, Lewis Bretts , Partner at PwC chats with Alisha Andert , co-founder of This Is Legal Design and chairwoman of the German Legal Technology Association.   Alisha shares her journey from traditional law into the field of legal design, her passion for innovation, and her work with legal technology co...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, Jenn sits down with Nancy Rademaker , Co-Founder of Drawify & Speakers Club, and our brilliant opening keynote at our EMEA 2024 Summit in London.   They discuss how AI can solve business challenges by improving efficiency and reducing manual tasks, as well as the importance of identifying the right problems before deploying AI solutions.  &nbsp...

In the episode of CLOC Talk, guest host Jeremiah Kincannon chats with Justin Schweisberger, Chief Revenue Officer at Pramata and Kari Walden, Assistant General Counsel at Jack Henry about strategic planning in legal operations.   They explore the importance of aligning legal operations with company strategy.  And, share hurdles and successes, like improving sales contract processes...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, guest host Jeremiah Kincannon , advisor on CLOC’s Voice and Brand Council chats with CJ Nicastro , Program Manager, Global Affairs & Legal Strategy Operations at Google and Scott Rosenberg , Managing Director & Corporate Counsel at Unbiased Consulting, LLC, both co-chairs of the CLOC Legal Project Management Committee.   They discuss the relevance an...

This special episode of CLOC Talk comes straight from the main stage of our APAC Summit 2024 in Sydney. It features a closing panel discussion on how generative AI is influencing legal ecosystems. Moderated by Terri Mottershead , Executive Director at Centre for Legal Innovation, the participants engage in a lively debate over whether AI will fundamentally change pricing models for legal services....

On this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from CGI 2024 in Las Vegas, Jenn chats with Bernadette Bulacan from Icertis , our awesome Diamond-Level sponsor. They tackle the tricky world of contract lifecycle management!  Jenn and Bernadette explore why it's important for everyone to understand contract processes, not just the legal team. Bernadette breaks down how different teams play a role...

This episode of CLOC Talk comes straight from the main stage of our APAC Summit 2024 in Sydney. Jenn had a fantastic panel discussion with Caryn Sandler , Chief Knowledge and Innovation Officer at Gilbert and Tobin; Mick Sheehy , Global Clients & Markets Leader at PwC Legal Business Solutions; and moderator, Matt Duncan , Legal Operations Director at Australian Retirement Trust.  They exp...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded at the 2024 APAC Summit in Sydney, Australia, Jenn sits down with Craig Emery , the head of the legal chapter and chief compliance officer at Telstra. Craig highlights his roles and responsibilities at Telstra, including his transition to the group company secretary role.   Jenn and Craig discuss Telstra's implementation of an agile legal chapter st...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live at CGI 2024, Jenn sits down with Sheila Dusseau and Sean Houston , Europe region leaders, to discuss their experiences and insights as part of the founding advisory council in Europe.   They delve into how legal operations in Europe differs from the U.S., focusing on resource constraints and the drive for efficient processes. Sheila and Sean hi...

Meet Holly Ransom , the dynamic CEO of Emergent Global, a sought-after keynote speaker, and a master interviewer who’s all about shaking up the status quo. As the author of  The Leading Edge  and a true trailblazer in leadership, Holly’s work spans from boardrooms to global stages, where she brings a fresh perspective on what it means to lead with purpose and agility. She’s tackled big c...

In today’s episode of CLOC Talk, recorded in person at CGI 2024 in Las Vegas,  Jenn sits down for an in-depth conversation with Travis Zimbelman , a legal ops and tech in-house professional with a diverse career background from international business consultancy to roles in Google and Meta. His most recent role had him leading Meta’s legal and compliance central services team.   The...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from CGI 2024 in Las Vegas, Jenn sits down with  Pepe Toriello , from CLOC’s LATAM regional group whose based in Mexico City, and Gui Tocci , leader of CLOC’s Brazil Legal Ops regional chapter.   They discuss the nuances and challenges of implementing Legal Operations in their regions. Pepe highlights that in Mexico, Legal Ops is often per...

In this episode of CLOC Talk, recorded live from CGI 2024 in Las Vegas, guest host Adam Becker , Director of Legal Operations at Cockroach Labs, chats with seasoned legal management and coaching professional, Natalie Loeb , Founder and CEO of LOEB Leadership.  The discussion highlights the importance of wellness in the legal profession which is critical for an industry know for high standards...

In today’s episode, Jenn is joined by Laura Dieudonne, fellow CLOC Board Member, and Legal Operations and Administration Director at Delta Airlines . We continue the CLOC Core conversation by diving into the nuances and importance of knowledge management systems (KM) within legal departments. Laura shares her first-hand experience in establishing a centralized KM platform, starting with a successf...

Today we’re discussing Practice Operations in the latest episode of our CLOC CORE series. Jenn sits down with Kelli Brooks , a Senior Solutions Architect at Coinbase , and Kyle Kelly , founder and CEO of Zubu AI , and formerly an in-house litigation tech program manager at companies like Coinbase and Salesforce. We go inside how to operationalize a legal practice area like litigation. We explore t...

Today Jenn welcomes Katrina Gowans , Director of Legal Operations & Senior Legal Counsel at IFM Investors, and Anna Golovsky , Executive Manager of Legal and Company Secretariat Operations at IAG … both of whom lead the CLOC Australia chapter. The three CLOC leaders sit down to discuss their point of view on the current state of legal operations Down Under.  And if you are wondering why t...