Valerie Ling Centre For Effective Serving
Clergy Wellbeing Down Under
Welcome to the official first podcast of the Centre for Effective Serving, a research and consulting organisation focused on vocational wellbeing, burnout prevention, and training. In Season 1 we are focussing on Clergy Wellbeing Down Under. In today's fast-paced and demanding world, support for those who serve by leadership is more crucial than ever. However, the pressures and challenges that come with leadership roles can often lead to burnout and exhaustion, both mentally and physically. At the Centre for Effective Serving, we understand the significance of addressing these issues head-o...
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May 26, 2026
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Episodes
Season 3 Finale: The Common Table Story 26.05.2026 44:25
The Common Table Colaborative Story In this episode, we explore the inspiring journey behind the Common Table, a groundbreaking ecumenical initiative fostering collaboration across Christian denominations. Our guests, Dr. Thad Austin and Kashmiri Schmookler, delve into how trust, shared practices, and diverse spiritual traditions are transforming leadership support and community health within the...
Pastors NEED Intentional Support 21.05.2026 44:25
Most pastors carry a heavier burden than many realize. After a near-breaking point during a Sunday service—overwhelmed by grief, exhaustion, and loneliness—Reverend Dr. Todd Adams openly shares how he hit rock bottom and found renewal. This episode reveals the often invisible emotional toll of ministry and the vital importance of self-care, community, and tailored support systems for faith leaders...
Trauma and Moral Injury in Ministry 06.05.2026 42:01
In this episode, Kristen Hydinger, a researcher at Boston University's Danielson Institute, shares insights into the unique mental health challenges faced by clergy and chaplains, emphasizing trauma, moral injury, and resilience factors. She discusses innovative support programs and highlights the importance of systemic change and community in fostering spiritual caregivers' wellbeing. M...
When Harvard Partners the Church 29.04.2026 40:39
Scaling Mental Health Support through Faith Communities: Insights from Dr. John Naslund Discover how faith-based initiatives and community-led programs are transforming mental health outreach across diverse cultural settings, from India to Texas. Dr. John Naslund shares innovative strategies for leveraging existing community structures, digital tools, and evidence-based therapies to expand access...
Faithfulness beyond giving and attendance - with Brian Foreman 22.04.2026 48:22
Brian Foreman, with three decades of experience related to congregations as staff and support, he combines his theological, leadership and community engagement education with the practical experience of serving congregations, and he is most passionate about seeing individuals and congregations transform their communities through the invitation God has given them to join in God’s work. A key way Br...
Immigration, Faith and Belonging 15.04.2026 47:12
Dr. Allison Norton is Associate Professor of Migration Studies and Congregational Life at Hartford International University, where she directs the Pastoral Innovation Network of New England and co-directs the Hartford Institute for Religion Research. She teaches courses in sociology of religion, immigration, and multicultural and intergenerational ministry. Her research and publications explore th...
Strategies That Work for Every Clergy and One That Matters Most for Married Clergy 08.04.2026 1:05:14
Dr Rae Jean Proeschold-Bell, PhD, is a Professor of Global Health at Duke University and Director of the Duke Clergy Health Initiative, for which she has been the lead researcher since its inception in 2007. She is an expert in conducting clinical trials of behavioral interventions that integrate physical and mental health. She has designed and rigorously tested two interventions for United Method...
Caring for our physical bodies as clergy 01.04.2026 39:06
Dr Matt Edwards has been a Doctor in the UK for over twenty years before transitioning to work with Thrive Worldwide with a vision to helping people and organisations to thrive. His role with Thrive has developed from Medical Director, Director of Individual Thriving and now Chief Clinical Officer. This role involves overseeing the multi-disciplinary clinical team of Medical, Psychosocial and Occu...
From Burnout to Flourishing with Dr Chris Adams 25.03.2026 46:11
The Flourishing in Ministry project began over ten years ago at the University of Notre Dame. Dr. Matt Bloom, whose wife is a pastor, led a team of researchers (including Dr. Chris Adams, Executive Director) to develop insights about clergy well-being. Dr. Adams now leads the Flourishing in Ministry project at Rosemead School of Psychology, Biola University, as part of the Mental Health and the C...
When science agrees with religion with Dr Byron Johnson 18.03.2026 43:13
Looking for gumption to persevere in ministry? Looking for spectacular evidence for the case of religion? Interested in what makes death row inmates flourish more than the global population? Debunking the Gallup Happiness report with the #1 countries that flourish *hint* it speaks to suffering NOT GDP or education. You will want to catch this one. Dr Byron Johnson is Distinguished Professor of th...
The Science of John 10:10 With Dr Victor Counted 11.03.2026 49:44
Dr. Victor Counted discusses the integration of positive psychology and Christian theology to understand and promote human flourishing from a faith-based perspective. Topics include Christian flourishing, spiritual maturity, attachment theory, and the importance of empirical research in faith Dr. Victor Counted is an Associate Professor of Psychology, Director of the Office of Research and Sponso...
The mental health needs and profile of Bible College Students with Dr David Eagle 03.03.2026 44:04
Dr David Eagle is an Associate Research Professor of Global Health and Sociology . He leads the Religion and Social Change Lab (RaSCL) RaSCL . RaSCL is a team of researchers and practitioners who use the tools of social science to deepen understanding, spark conversations, and develop resources for the training and formation of faith leaders and their communities. They work collaboratively with th...
Season 2 Finale with Colin Buchanan! This one is for the kids! 30.10.2024 45:30
Colin Buchanan ministers directly to our ministry kids addressing 7 of the top themes that came up from our survey. Honestly - this one is best seen on the video version because - well - Colin is in full view with all of the expressions, animations, and actions that is truly Colin. The link for the video version can be found here. It's a bit of a long episode - skip to the sections if that...
Ministry Siblings: Anna Cox and Michael Jensen 23.10.2024 41:47
Anna Cox who serves with Reach Australia and Michael Jensen (podcast co-host of With All Due Respect ) are siblings who share their perspective growing up within the evangelical Christian Anglican community in Sydney. While Anna and Michael shared the same upbringing, they reflect on how differing personalities can shape one’s response to the ministry family experience. They also share what it wa...
The Pastor's Kid Part 2 with Barnabas Piper 16.10.2024 32:38
Join me, Valerie Ling, for part 2, as I sit down with Barnabas Piper, author, pastor and son of theologian John Piper, for a candid and helpful conversation about being a pastor's kid. Barnabas shares his personal story of navigating life as a pastor's kid, where the blend of public scrutiny and private faith creates a unique tension of identity and independence. Get the full report of o...
The Pastor's Kid Part 1 with Barnabas Piper 16.10.2024 27:50
Join me, Valerie Ling, as I sit down with Barnabas Piper, author, pastor and son of theologian John Piper, for a candid and helpful conversation about being a pastor's kid. Barnabas shares his personal story of navigating life as a pastor's kid, where the blend of public scrutiny and private faith creates a unique tension of identity and independence. Get the full report of our survey f...
Episode 6: Navigating Parenting in Ministry Part 1 with Collett Smart 09.10.2024 27:29
In this conversation, I speak with Collett Smart - psychologist, author and speaker in child and adoelscent mental health. Collett hosts the Raising Teens Podcast and is the author of "They'll be okay. 15 Conversations To Help Your Child Through troubled Times " We delve into the complexities of adolescent mental health, particularly within the context of ministry families. We discu...
Episode 7: Navigating Parenting in Ministry Part 2 with Collett Smart 09.10.2024 29:11
In this conversation, Collett Smart discuss the challenges and nuances of parenting in ministry, particularly focusing on the unique struggles faced by ministry kids. We explore themes of faith, identity, the importance of open communication, and the need for space and privacy for children. The discussion looks at the significance of relationships, understanding, and grace in navigating the comple...
Episode 5: Growing Up Between Continents and Churches with Marsden Sampson 03.10.2024 33:03
Growing up in the unique world of ministry life can shapes a child's perspective in unique ways. Marsden Sampson knows this journey intimately, being both a pastor's kid and a missionary kid. He recounts his story of traversing cultural landscapes from Australia to Kenya and back, and how these transitions shaped his understanding of belonging, loneliness, and identity. Marsden's ca...
Episode 4: Supporting Ministry Families with Neurodivergent Children with Tanya Crossman 26.09.2024 25:55
How can you make church environments inclusive for neurodivergent children, especially those in ministry families serving abroad? Tanya Crossman brings part 2 to her interview with me and shares her lived, and expert insights on this critical topic. Creating a welcoming space for all children in church is more than just a nicety—it's a necessity. Listen as we explore the importance of recogni...
Episode 3: The Hidden Challenges and Strengths of Third Culture Kids (TCKs) with Tanya Crossman 25.09.2024 33:43
Discover the hidden challenges and strengths of Third Culture Kids (TCKs), who grow up outside of their passport country, and how their unique experiences shapes their lives in unexpected ways. In this thought-provoking episode, we sit down with Tanya Crossman, a leading expert on third culture kids (TCKs), who shares her own transformative experiences and groundbreaking research. From her insight...
Episode 2: What Stood Out to the Psychologists Behind the Ministry Kids' Survey 17.09.2024 34:28
In this episode, we sit down with the psychologists who designed and analyzed the Ministry Kids Wellbeing Survey to uncover the key insights and findings that stood out to them. From surprising trends to eye-opening revelations, they share what the kids themselves told us, and what we discovered about the unique challenges and experiences faced by ministry kids. Whether you're a parent, part...
Episode 1: Ministry Kids' Wellbeing Survey 2024 Results 16.09.2024 12:16
In this kick-off episode, we dive into the heart of the Ministry Kids Wellbeing Survey to explore the main findings and what they reveal about the lives of children in ministry families. We unpack key themes that emerged from the survey, shedding light on the unique experiences and challenges ministry children face. To get a copy of the full report head here Send us Fan Mail Podcast Disclaimer: P...
A Conversation with Christopher Ash Author Zeal Without Burnout 05.12.2023 47:51
What a joy and privilege to finish our very first season of the podcast with Christopher Ash - author of Zeal Without Burnout and The Book Your Pastor Wishes You Would Read But Is Too Embarrassed To Ask. Christopher shares his own journey through burnout and what led to his publications in this area. Christopher shares his personal pearls of wisdom for pastors: the importance of grounding motiva...
Leadership through the Lens of Indigenous Values with Jay Matenga 29.11.2023 1:01:37
As our season draws to a close, I began to contemplate leadership in a wider context, beyond just Australia and parish settings, I was drawn to explore international issues of leadership in gospel work. Jay Matenga , is Director of the Global Witness Dept. and the Mission Commission for the World Evangelical Alliance and Executive Officer for Missions Interlink NZ. Jay Matenga, was raised with ind...
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