Valerie Ling Centre For Effective Serving

Clergy Wellbeing Down Under

Religion EN ↓ 43 episodes

Welcome to the official first podcast of the Centre for Effective Serving, a research and consulting organisation focused on vocational wellbeing, burnout prevention, and training.  In Season 1 we are focussing on Clergy Wellbeing Down Under.   In today's fast-paced and demanding world, support for those who serve by leadership is more crucial than ever. However, the pressures and challenges that come with leadership roles can often lead to burnout and exhaustion, both mentally and physically. At the Centre for Effective Serving, we understand the significance of addressing these issues head-o...

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Valerie Ling Centre For Effective Serving

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Religion

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effectiveserving.com.au

Latest episode

May 26, 2026

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Episodes

Families On Mission: A Conversation with Author and Global Mission Consultant Marion Knell 22.11.2023

As our season draws to a close, I began to contemplate leadership in a wider context, beyond just Australia and parish settings, I was drawn to explore international issues of leadership in gospel work. Marion Knell is a seasoned cross-cultural consultant and trainer with an extensive history spanning nearly three decades. Her expertise stretches across a multitude of sectors, but at its core, Mar...

Leadership in Mission with Harry Hoffmann - Global Member Care Network 15.11.2023

As our season draws to a close, I began to contemplate leadership in a wider context, beyond just Australia and parish settings, I was drawn to explore international issues of leadership in gospel work.  Dive into the complexities of cross-cultural ministry with our guest, Harry Hoffman, a prominent figure in the Missions Member Care Network. With over two decades of experience in cross-cultural m...

Health and Well-being of Pastors: Research Findings of Timothy Captain from Flourish San Diego 08.11.2023

As our season draws to a close, I began to contemplate leadership in a wider context, beyond just Australia and parish settings, I was drawn to explore international issues of leadership in gospel work. Our guest, Timothy Captain from Flourish San Diego, brings his unique insight derived from his PhD thesis, the Holistic Pastoral Well-being Assessment. Timothy provides a comprehensive understandin...

"Healthy Churches Aren't a Pipe Dream" with A.J. Mathieu from The Malphurs Group 01.11.2023

As our season draws to a close, I began to contemplate leadership in a wider context, beyond just Australia and parish settings, I was drawn to explore international issues of leadership in gospel work. In this episode we are joined by A.J. Mathieu president of The Malphurs Group . A.J. Mathieu has over 25 years of experience as a business owner, 5 years as an elected official serving local and re...

Chapter turner: International perspectives to finish the season 01.11.2023

Heads up! We are almost at the end of our season! Having dived in with guests from Australia, I started to think about what the missions and international scene would be able to say to us.  So you will find the next episodes, until we finish, pushes out the perspective and conversation to an international space. Send us Fan Mail Podcast Disclaimer: Please be aware that the opinions and viewpoints...

Advance not Retreat with Dr Chelsea Gill 25.10.2023

Join Dr. Chelsea Gill from Bond Business School as we explore the topic of reflective retreats. Chelsea, with her deep insights into clergy retreats, examines the role of attention restoration theory in counteracting mental and emotional exhaustion. We discuss two core types of clergy retreats, educational and reflective, and their structures. Chelsea explains attentional fatigue common among cler...

A Tale of 2 Surveys with Sam Sterland - NCLS Senior Researcher 18.10.2023

We are joined by Sam Sterland, Senior Researcher with the National Church Life Survey and we look at the latest findings from the NCLS and how it matches/sheds light on what our (much smaller!) survey found in the clergy wellbeing space.  What does church health have to do with clergy wellbeing? Have we made any progress in leadership sustainability, and what are the key insights we glean from bot...

Behind the Pulpit: An Insight into Pastoral Stress and Burnout with Keith and Sarah Condie 11.10.2023

Keith and Sarah Condie of the Mental Health and Pastoral Care Institute join us to unpack the numbers from Valerie Ling's survey on rates of burnout and resignation thinking among our clergy.    We talk about the often-hidden struggles of church leaders, the pressures they face and the need to have an unwavering façade. The conversation throws a spotlight on the how a lack of encouragement an...

From Corporate to Parish HR - "I Thought It Would Be Different": A Discussion with Vikki Napier 04.10.2023

In this episode,  Vikki Napier, Head of Human Resources at the Anglican Church Diocese Of Sydney, reflects on her corporate HR experience and the church context.  What surprises her, what she thinks we are doing well, where we have a way to go, and where we can add value to our churches from a human and humane resourcing perspective. Download my research report and reflections Watch the video vers...

"Don't Take Us Out of The Truck!" With Jo Muirhead 27.09.2023

**EPISODE TRIGGER WARNING** This episode contains some discussion about suicide, violence, and other potentially traumatic material. Listener discretion is strongly advised. If you or someone you know is struggling, please seek professional help or, in Australia contact Lifeline 13 11 14. Jo Muirhead is a Rehabilitation Counsellor and is the founder of Purple Co .   Purple Co facilitates workplace...

Death by a Thousand Paper Cuts - Psychosocial Risks in Church Leadership with Katharine Moore 20.09.2023

 Imagine an environment where safety and well-being are prioritized, where trust and transparency are key, and conflicts are handled in a constructive manner. These are the ingredients of psychological safety. Psychological safety refers to a work environment where individuals feel comfortable taking risks, expressing their thoughts, and making mistakes without fear of punishment or humiliation. ...

Speaking the Unspoken Experiences of Women in Ministry with Rev Dr Megan Powell du Toit 13.09.2023

TRIGGER WARNING: Please note that this episode discusses trauma and sexual violence which some listeners may find distressing or emotionally challenging.  In Australia, If you require support, please contact Lifeline on 13 11 14 and/or 1800RESPECT. One of the key findings in Valerie’s research was the levels of burnout and the personal violence experienced by women in ministry.  Her guest in today...

Emotional Awareness and the Place for Silence with Dave and Kathy Thurston 06.09.2023

Dave & Kathy Thurston have been married for over 40 years and have three grown up children. They have been in ministry in one form or another for nearly forty years. Five and a half years ago Dave and Kathy Thurston left Sydney and parish ministry to work in the Presbyterian Church of Queensland. Their brief was mentoring pastors and their wives, training other to be mentors, develop a post co...

The Trinity Network Story: Cultivating Connected Churches Paul and Sue Harrington 31.08.2023

The Trinity Network has its origin at Trinity Church Adelaide, which was established in 1836 .  Paul and Sue Harrington share their story of 35 years in ministry with the network, which now consists of 14 churches across Adelaide and South Australia. Dive into the Harringtons' candid thoughts about juggling ministry life and family, the connection that spouses need, and their reflections on t...

A chapter turner with Valerie Ling 31.08.2023

A message from Valerie as the next episodes get published. Send us Fan Mail Podcast Disclaimer: Please be aware that the opinions and viewpoints shared on this podcast are personal to me and my guests, and do not represent the stance of any institution.  This podcast aims to present findings for open discussion and dialogue, inviting listeners to engage critically and draw their own conclusions. W...

Transforming the Narrative on Ministry Formation with Professor Donald Guthrie 17.08.2023

Today, we're joined by Professor Donald Guthrie.  Professor Donald Guthrie teaches at Trinity International University, and is the co-author of Resilient Ministry: What Pastors Told us about Surviving and Thriving , a book based on a five-year intensive research project on the frontlines of pastoral ministry.  In this episode, he shares with Valerie his insights on social media conflict, the...

Leading Through Tough Times in Ministry with Dr Grant Bickerton 17.08.2023

Ever feel like you're on the brink of burnout, especially in these pandemic-ridden times? You're not alone. On today's episode, we've got the honour of hosting Dr. Grant Bickerton, who takes a deep dive into the changing landscape of Christian ministry and how it's impacting those on the front lines. We begin by exploring the unique challenges and psychological toll the pa...

In the Trenches: Understanding the Modern Pastoral Experience with Rev Archie Poulos 26.07.2023

Join Rev Archie Poulos and myself as we explore this episode -  'In the Trenches: Understanding the Modern Pastoral Experience,' as we look at the complex world of church leadership. Archie is Head of Ministry (Moore Theological College) and Ministry Director, (Centre for Ministry Development). Based on Archie's PhD research, and mine, we explore the evolving nature of ministry, the...

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